@Goalline posted:this is a baaad team.
Yep. I think there’s 10 or 11 really bad teams in the NFL this year and the Pack is part of that group to be sure. Maybe the only good news is they play against a number of those bad teams and will at least have a fighting chance to win a few more games.
Tonight was a winnable game vs a bad team and they blew it. Not a good sign for the near future.
How can their third string DBs cover all of our ball catchers?
Love was not good tonight. Late on that last pass
First and goal at the 3 also a failure.
@SteveLuke posted:The Raiders truly are awful.
Vegas has a terrible coaching staff that will likely get fired at the end of the year.
They have a bad QB, bad OL, a decent RB, and 1 great but dinged up WR.
On D, they have one legitimate star and a bunch of has beens and never will bes.
They played a "home" game that featured more fans for the opposing squad.
A squad that was coming off of a mini-bye and was more rested.
And yet they were clearly the better team tonight.
Just a sad reflection of where the Green Bay Packers are at.
There are going to be teams this year who play their worst game and still beat the Raiders. That’s how bad the Raiders are. Yet, we didn’t look like we belonged against them.
I’m not sure how anyone can put that on Love. 2 terrible drops on good throws and then he’s got a 6’4” WR against a 5’9” CB, that’s a ball that Watson needs to come down with 10/10 times and bully that practice squad CB. Sad. Give Love a true #1 WR and a legit veteran starting TE and I think we’re 4-1. Guys who know where TF they’re supposed to go and how to hold on to the ball. No QB is going to be perfect, he’s going to miss throws and throw INTs, Rodgers was an outlier with his INT avoidance. His completion % can be 52% with an 85 rating if he scores points and win games. He doesn’t have to have a polished stat line.
These young guys need to take their lumps, but we don’t need to tank just to get these guys their reps. Tee Higgins will likely be available at the trade deadline, probably others, other young players you can build a core with. Watson, Doubs, Musgrave, etc. are talented but they NEED mentors.
So.....bitcoin. What's that all about?
This smells like the 80s.
Love played like he did in college. His rap was he'd chuck up balls for no reason into INTs and wasn't super accurate. Was hoping by sitting he'd improve on that. Tonight shows he has not.
The rest of the team isn't helping him, but he hasn't gotten rid of his bad habits.
@mrtundra posted:How can their third string DBs cover all of our ball catchers?
Because all of our WRs are practice squad level guys. Watson has the speed to be a difference maker, but he's probably at best the #3 type guy who is a deep threat to spread the field for a real #1 WR. He's MVS or Corey Bradford.
The other guys are just guys.
I do think Jaylin Reed has some potential to be a contributor but they didn't run one play for him tonight (WR screen, bubble screen, slant route). Nothing.
This offense looks like Deshaun Kizer is running it. Such a slog.
The kind of football this team is playing is really hard to watch.
And don't look now but the Bears are in the rear view.
@mrtundra posted:How can their third string DBs cover all of our ball catchers?
Because most or all our ball catchers are 3rd string worthy themselves
Marvin Harrison Jr for 1000 Alex
Lafleur can't coach.
11 days to prepare for a bad team, and this is the result, MLFs seat has to be blazing hot right now.
@Goalline posted:Love displayed all the negatives from his draft profile today. I can’t give up on a first year starter, but I am not exactly emboldened by his performance the last 2 weeks.
Weird. Love is kinda the least of my concerns ATM. Love is running a makeshift offense in his first yr as starter.
"Gotta fix our mistakes in a hurry."--MLF
@Iowacheese posted:Marvin Harrison Jr for 1000 Alex
Packers never pick WRs in the first round for 10,000,000, Alex. No matter how good they are.
@Grave Digger posted:I’m not sure how anyone can put that on Love. 2 terrible drops on good throws and then he’s got a 6’4” WR against a 5’9” CB, that’s a ball that Watson needs to come down with 10/10 times and bully that practice squad CB. Sad. Give Love a true #1 WR and a legit veteran starting TE and I think we’re 4-1. Guys who know where TF they’re supposed to go and how to hold on to the ball. These young guys need to take their lumps, but we don’t need to tank just to get these guys their reps. Tee Higgins will likely be available at the trade deadline, probably others, other young players you can build a core with. Watson, Doubs, Musgrave, etc. are talented but they NEED mentors.
Disagree.
You can find guys like Doubs on practice squads.
Musgrave hasn't shown much other than that he can't track the ball in the air at all. His value is limited as well right now because he's a terrible blocker.
Watson is a MVS/Corey Bradford type. Track speed, but very green and may never get much better. We can hope he'll be a Donald Driver type and put professional WR routes and discipline with that athleticism, but I'm not holding my breath.
@Goalline posted:Love displayed all the negatives from his draft profile today. I can’t give up on a first year starter, but I am not exactly emboldened by his performance the last 2 weeks.
Keep leading the Cheers. Time will Tell
Besides a whipping by the loins, we just got beat by the fucking Falcons and Raiders. Can't fathom this level of ineptitude. Not sure i see another W on the schedule
@GBFanForLife posted:Lafleur can't coach.
He's the 2020s version of Norv Turner.
As much as I dislike Rodgers, AR made MLF a lot of money.
Our D had 7 first round picks on the field at one time tonight I believe.
Go Pack, Go! This is a young team going through growing pains. As much as I hate to see them lose, I know they will do so, being so young. I still feel the future is bright, but that future is not this year. Still wearing the Green and Gold and still hate the bears and vikings.
I don’t see Love ever being Mahomes, but I think he’s as good or better as a passer than Hurts. Hurts has a squad of dudes around him though and it makes a huge difference for a young starter. Love will be fine, Gute needs to surround him with real RB depth, WR depth who can compete and use their brain, and LaFleur needs to play to the strength of the supporting cast (dum dums) and not try to force them to be Davante Adams and Aaron Jones.
Just…yuck
@Iowacheese posted:Keep leading the Cheers. Time will Tell
If he’s playing like this after week 9 I’m bailing.🤣
@MichiganPacker posted:He's the 2020s version of Norv Turner.
As much as I dislike Rodgers, AR made MLF a lot of money.
On the evidence give me that fucking crow.😂
@Iowacheese posted:Marvin Harrison Jr for 1000 Alex
Now you already know that we’re taking defense with our first round pick.
@Goalline posted:If he’s playing like this after week 9 I’m bailing.🤣
Wow You are usually blindly loyal.
Thought you would at least give him 4 more years
@Iowacheese posted:Our D had 7 first round picks on the field at one time tonight I believe.
And they held the Raiders to less than 20 points and under 300 yards. Was the defense really the problem tonight?
@ZUF posted:Love was not good tonight. Late on that last pass
First and goal at the 3 also a failure.
Frankly, Love has been mostly bad in the past 3 games. His strong 4th quarter vs the Saints was the only good football he’s played since Atlanta.
I don’t think it’s hopeless with Love, but these last 2 games have taken the shine off at least a pretty good start to his year.
I will say, he’s got a lot working against him with an extremely young supporting cast and missing Jones. That said, he just needs to play way better than he has the past 2 weeks for us to feel like he’s a long term starter at QB for the Pack.
@Iowacheese posted:Our D had 7 first round picks on the field at one time tonight I believe.
Only gave up 17, I really don’t see that as an issue at all. If your defense gives up <20 you should easily be able to a win. That’s a gift.
@Iowacheese posted:Our D had 7 first round picks on the field at one time tonight I believe.
And Joe Barry, a famously failed defensive coordinator on 2 different teams telling them what to do.
@Iowacheese posted:Wow You are usually blindly loyal.
Thought you would at least give him 4 more years
Might have to.
@YooperPackfan posted:And they held the Raiders to less than 20 points and under 300 yards. Was the defense really the problem tonight?
Nope. Two prong. Just pointing out the obvious lack of blue chip O prospects.
