@PackLandVA posted:This.
Lots of rookies flame out after a good first season. Or at least show regression in year 2. And other rookies take a couple of seasons to hit their stride.
This exactly! Pumped about this draft class but the league is going to study them and figure out their strengths and weaknesses. Right now they are just a “beautiful mystery “. Even guys like Doubs and Watson are unknown. They are still learning the game.
Not oddly but DEFINITELY specific 😁
@Goalline posted:I don’t judge players till year 3.
I judged you day 1 and never stopped judging. 
@PackerHawk posted:I judged you day 1 and never stopped judging.
It’s fun, isn’t it?
Damnit!! There goes my humanitarian award
@Boris posted:Damnit!! There goes my humanitarian award
Miss Congeniality is still something to shoot for. 🤔
Or Miss Congenitalia.
Interesting! Three solid rookies from this trade sequence.
A couple more key plays from him last night.
Who in the blue hell is this guy?!?!?
Player A:
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) January 8, 2024
5th round pick - 146 overall
Known for - separation
Rookie stat line:
52 - 720 - 13.8 - 4td
Player B:
5th round pick - 159 overall
Known for - separation
Rookie stat line:
39 - 581 - 14.9 - 4td
Player A: Stefon Diggs
Player B: Dontayvion Wicks
So next year Wicks is going to try to play through injury and we're all going to bicker about how much he's regressed. 
So by turning the 45th pick into Reed, Wicks and Brooks, Gutey should be GM of the year based on that alone.
@Fedya posted:So next year Wicks is going to try to play through injury and we're all going to bicker about how much he's regressed.
May I be first to say, rub some dirt on it you goldbricking SOB!
Wicks is a faster and much better version of Lazard.
@PackerHawk posted:Wicks is a faster and much better version of Lazard.
..and Reed is a faster much better version of Cobb in his later years.
I have mad love for this receiver. IMO, this guy is going to be WR1 in a couple of years. Those routes are unbelievable.
KOD
@Iowacheese posted:KOD
High IQ reply, bubba.
Met a guy out here in Vegas who went to school with Wicks. Cowboys fan but likes the Packers because he knows how good Wicks is.
It's getting crazy out here 😬
@Boris posted:Met a guy out here in Vegas who went to school with Wicks. Cowboys fan but likes the Packers because he knows how good Wicks is.
It's getting crazy out here 😬
I’ve long been drawn to route running demons like Wicks. It’s why I thought Freeman was going to be a good receiver when he was merely a kick returner. Man, Wicks gives me all the vibes.
Agree. I think he is a star 3 years from now.
In this offense? Sooner
Apparently, CBS Sports agrees. On Brooks and Reed too.
More licks for Wicks.
wicks had a 4.62 forty? Wow, he looked as though he played a lot faster than that.
In small areas, he does play a lot quicker. And it's getting off the line that can separate WRs, and that's a skill he and Adams have. Adams is the best at getting off the LOS at the snap, and from that point on the DB is scrambling to catch up. Wicks has some of that same skill in him.
I just cannot believe we got this guy as late in the draft as we did.
Defenses have a way of using a player's weakness against him. I think Wicks caught a lot of defenses and defensive backs off guard as a rookie. He won't be able to use that element in 24. He'll have to keep developing the rest of his game to stay ahead. Adams didn't have breakaway speed but he was elite in pretty much every other category.
@DH13 posted:More licks for Wicks.
I guess it's no longer a secret.
@Floridarob posted:wicks had a 4.62 forty? Wow, he looked as though he played a lot faster than that.
Jerry Rice was rumored to have run a 4.71, but was probably more like a 4.55.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_D...un_a_471_40_in_1985/
Davante Adams ran a 4.56.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...91-4d26-4c0ac739af41
I think 40 times are more important for DBs than for WRs. The WRs know where they are going, the DBs have to react. A slow DB has much less chance to recover when a WR runs a great route. A WR that can run great routes to generate some separation can overcome average speed.
However, every WR room needs a guy that can threaten defenses deep with 4.35 speed (C. Watson, Tyreke Hill, MVS). You don't want your whole roster of WRs to be like Lazards or Wicks. If they were, the opposing DC moves the safeties much closer to the LOS and gives less room for everyone to work.
@Floridarob posted:wicks had a 4.62 forty? Wow, he looked as though he played a lot faster than that.
I read that the 4.62 is deceiving as he actually injured his hip while running the 40 at the combine.
@Goalline posted:I’ve long been drawn to route running demons like Wicks. It’s why I thought Freeman was going to be a good receiver when he was merely a kick returner. Man, Wicks gives me all the vibes.
Best and worst receivers this season at being charted as open vs single man coverage. See if you can guess who came in at # 1 ?
https://twitter.com/arjunmenon.../1752365675140526529
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7-11?
Carolina has a couple of slackers on the bottom of that list
@skully posted:Carolina has a couple of slackers on the bottom of that list
https://twitter.com/arjunmenon.../1752365675140526529
And one at #5, as well. Thielen is as close as it gets to a viking WR getting on that list.
