@PA green & gold posted:I was at that game. Shitty game. Neither Facre nor McNabb played.
I was there as well. Two things:
1. Favre absolutely did play. Ugly game for him but he took every snap.
2. McNabb was a junior at Syracuse in 1997 so he definitely did not play in that game. This was during the Ty Detmer experiment in Philly.
@PackLandVA posted:Side note - worked with a guy who used to be a producer and sad CB is complete and total A-hole off screen and treated just about everyone who wasn't a face on the network like shit. Wasn't surprised.
Ha ha, yeah not exactly a well kept secret. 
Pretty much a raging asshole and a giant perv to females.
@PackerHawk posted:I was there as well. Two things:
1. Favre absolutely did play. Ugly game for him but he took every snap.
2. McNabb was a junior at Syracuse in 1997 so he definitely did not play in that game. This was during the Ty Detmer experiment in Philly.
I stand corrected! (Senior moment 😂). Favre did play and Ty Detmer was Eagles QB. It was an ugly game. Painful to watch.
Considering Farb's consecutive games played streak, it's a good bet he played in any and every single Packer game since his first start in 92.
What no one is talking about, not even the commentators during the play, or Bears fans,... NO ONE is talking about this one, little, thing, that happened on that blocked field goal.
THE BALL HIT THE CROSS BAR...
... and I'll even go out on a limb and say that the ball may have actually "gone in".
Now what "gets me", is that out of all the millions of people, that are supposedly watching this game, I'm the only person that noticed this... or am I?
IT DOES MATTER. Not calling that part of the play, as commentators, is curious, to say the least. As if it t'was a forgone conclusion.
Go and look for yourself. I can't find the follow-though footage to know if it went in or not, as highlight cuts out before the ball either passes behind or in front of the pole after it hit the crossbar.
It did not even get close to the cross bar. Not sure what you think you saw. You must be related to my wife. She sees shit that doesn't exists all the time. Then gets mad that I don't see the same shit. You may need some help with that.
The endzone view sort of looked like it bounced off the crossbar, but I think it was an illusion and that it hit the field at the same line of sight as the crossbar. But the view from behind the kicker shows it was well short of the goalposts.
OMGOSH, I really thought it hit the crossbar as well, then bounced back into the field. Has anyone one seen it from a side angle?? I’ve only seen it from the kicker’s point of view. And I swear I wasn’t smoking either. 
@Godless Wanderer posted:What no one is talking about, not even the commentators during the play, or Bears fans,... NO ONE is talking about this one, little, thing, that happened on that blocked field goal.
THE BALL HIT THE CROSS BAR....
I thought so too when the play happened, and even asked Ms. Timmy if it hit the crossbar.
There is one replay angle where it looks like it indeed did, but I think it was an 'optical illusion', as Dr. Bob hypothesized.
However, I never thought the ball ever bounced in/over the crossbar when I was thinking it did hit it.
No matter how hard I look, on the replay angle from behind the kicker, I can't see or track the ball to see where it ultimately lands. Even after the play is over, I don't see the ball on the field anywhere.
The ball landed right at the refs feet on the left side of goal post. There is no way it hit the crossbar and landed there.
@PA green & gold posted:I stand corrected! (Senior moment 😂). Favre did play and Ty Detmer was Eagles QB. It was an ugly game. Painful to watch.
Didn't the Eagles have Koy Detmer? Didn't his elbow get dislocated when he was holding for a field goal or something?
The ball hit at about the goal line then bounced to the ref. The players were celebrating before the first bounce, so it was clearly well short.
Just stupid overly fancy camera work compared to the basic static endzone view where you can actually see the trajectory of the ball.
(though I suppose it's probably the static endzone view where it was in line for the optical illusion of hitting the crossbar)
This is straight from the broadcast
Fox did a horrible job getting a clean view of it. The back of the end zone replay look at first didn't show the whole goal post, the camera was moving, and they cut quick from it.
Every time I see it, it does look like a strange bounce off the crossbar. Such is life.
Things aren't as they seem, is the gist.
@Godless Wanderer posted:What no one is talking about, not even the commentators during the play, or Bears fans,... NO ONE is talking about this one, little, thing, that happened on that blocked field goal.
THE BALL HIT THE CROSS BAR...
... and I'll even go out on a limb and say that the ball may have actually "gone in".
Now what "gets me", is that out of all the millions of people, that are supposedly watching this game, I'm the only person that noticed this... or am I?
IT DOES MATTER. Not calling that part of the play, as commentators, is curious, to say the least. As if it t'was a forgone conclusion.
Go and look for yourself. I can't find the follow-though footage to know if it went in or not, as highlight cuts out before the ball either passes behind or in front of the pole after it hit the crossbar.
My uncle is able to pull his thumb right off of his left had. No blood, no skin tearing. It must hurt him because he makes a little grimace. And after about two seconds, he shoves it back on his hand. No scarring, no marks, nothing. I don’t know how he does it.
@Godless Wanderer posted:What no one is talking about, not even the commentators during the play, or Bears fans,... NO ONE is talking about this one, little, thing, that happened on that blocked field goal.
THE BALL HIT THE CROSS BAR...
... and I'll even go out on a limb and say that the ball may have actually "gone in".
Now what "gets me", is that out of all the millions of people, that are supposedly watching this game, I'm the only person that noticed this... or am I?
IT DOES MATTER. Not calling that part of the play, as commentators, is curious, to say the least. As if it t'was a forgone conclusion.
Go and look for yourself. I can't find the follow-though footage to know if it went in or not, as highlight cuts out before the ball either passes behind or in front of the pole after it hit the crossbar.
I guess if you're only going to make one post in your x4 life, this one goes in the record books.
@Godless Wanderer posted:What no one is talking about, not even the commentators during the play, or Bears fans,... NO ONE is talking about this one, little, thing, that happened on that blocked field goal.
THE BALL HIT THE CROSS BAR...
... and I'll even go out on a limb and say that the ball may have actually "gone in".
Now what "gets me", is that out of all the millions of people, that are supposedly watching this game, I'm the only person that noticed this... or am I?
IT DOES MATTER. Not calling that part of the play, as commentators, is curious, to say the least. As if it t'was a forgone conclusion.
Go and look for yourself. I can't find the follow-though footage to know if it went in or not, as highlight cuts out before the ball either passes behind or in front of the pole after it hit the crossbar.
I was sitting in that corner of the end zone which would be just to the right as you look from the kicker. That ball made it to the end zone and it wabbled to the right but it didn't hit the cross bar. It bounced and the ref got it but it didn't bounce off.
Crossbargate.
If you watch the replay from straight on to the Bears kicker, follow just the ball. It's hard to see and I had to watch it three times, but you can pick up the ball in the air and see it land almost directly on the goal line and take a bounce. And yes, you see the Packers' players celebrating and Bears deflating long before the refs signal no good. They knew it was short; if it had hit the crossbar, they would have been holding their breath and watching. When in doubt, watch the players.
Honestly what difference does it make if it hit the crossbar or not, the kick was missed, we won, end of story
I wonder about some of you...
WATCH THE REFS WHEN THEY WAVE "NO GOOD"
They are watching the ball until it's "no good"... it hit the crossbar. The ball does not bounce in front of them.
Has the cleanup crew come to debunk and dispel us with explanations of mirages and accusations of sleep deprivation. I'm certain this, whatever this is, will never amount to anything. That doesn't mean it didn't happen.
That's the commentators job. That's why I brought this up. They need to watch the play all the way through and tell the fans what happened. Not the other way around.
I still think it went in... they cut the footage before you can see the ball go in front OR behind the post it bounces towards.
YOU'D think a BEARS fans would have noticed... moreso than a Packers fan would since they want that ball to go in. I bet if you brought this up they would tell you it wasn't even close.
It was very close. (I still think it may have gone in)
So what game are these people watching that the ball has no chance and it's not even close?
... I wonder about some of you.
