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Morgan's an investment the Packers made for their OL. Draft and Develop is the name of the game. Morgan might not even get to start this season at OT. Walker was pretty good for the Packers, at LT and Tom was stellar, at RT.

@H5 posted:

This guy is 100% a Packer pick with versatility the Packers love.

Andy Herman had a 2-round mock where he picked Morgan (although traded down then selected him)

I want more people to hate this pick because while it's not ideal, I know this is a good selection!!

I want to come back and read these first few pages and laugh in 3 years. Just like Rashaan Gary 😁

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@mrtundra posted:

I'd leave Walker at LT and put Morgan at RT and Tom at C. Morgan can also play OG, so he could spell Rhyan, there. We'll see what tomorrow brings. Ton of picks left and I'm sure OL will still be addressed.

I'd actually let them compete for the job in camp and put the best five on the field in the stretch half of the season and playoff run.

@vitaflo posted:

Gutey's presser was telling on taking Morgan at 25: "Where we had him valued this was a pretty easy decision for us".

They must be pretty high on the kid and had him high on their board.

They had no interest in trading down and got the card in very soon after Lions picked.

The Packers were not taking T. Arnold anyway.

Skill position players make highlight plays....like DBs. And while DB is a need for Green Bay, so is O-line.  Why? Because that's what helps the Packers Skill position players on offense make the highlight plays.

Love this pick even though many fellow online schmos think it's a reach.  Probably a reach for some teams/prognosticators.  But not a reach for Gute. Trust the board. Morgan would've been gone at 41.

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@mrtundra posted:

Morgan's an investment the Packers made for their OL. Draft and Develop is the name of the game. Morgan might not even get to start this season at OT. Walker was pretty good for the Packers, at LT and Tom was stellar, at RT.

As long as Morgan comes to camp bent on taking away a starting job from Walker or Tom and Walker & Tom do everything they can to prevent that from happening everyone wins.

I just love adding new depth to the OL early in the draft. FINALLY!

Gute was asked if there were offers to trade down, he said yes but the board was strong so they stayed put.

Then was asked if he thought about trading up.  He said they had an inkling that one or two players they were targeting would fall enough for it to make sense for them to move up but that didn't happen.

I'm gonna guess that was Mims who went at 18.

He also said the board is really strong going into day two.  All the QB's taken really helped overall.

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@vitaflo posted:

I'm gonna guess that was Mims who went at 18.

He's really not a packer type at all.

@vitaflo posted:

He also said the board is really strong going into day two.  All the QB's taken really helped overall.

Still have Stetson Bennett out there! 😆

Day 2 is a big day. Kick their asses Gutey!

There're two areas where you're only as good as your weakest link; OLine and Secondary. If you have even one bad OLineman he'll affect the whole offense both in the run and in the passing game. The offense struggled with Nijman or Newman playing.

Same with the secondary. You can shut down 2 receivers but if your slot guy can't cover or there's miscommunication the whole secondary looks bad.

Can't ever have enough of these guys, especially versatile guys.

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Like it or not, Morgan was the best LT left on the bored. All the fanboy media types pimping Guyton as being a potential Packer were rong. Guyton had Cowpies written all over him, and they fleeced the Loins and still got him.

And I am not so sure Packers were taking Terrion Arnold anyway. Loins gonna Loin.

It is a rare OT draft...Gutey would have been a fool not to take one in R1 unless there absolutely wasn't a guy they had rated in the top 50 prospects.

Both Coops still in play at 41...Edge and DeJean...although I am guessing both may be gone by then.

Mich LB Colson, Utah S Cole Bish, NCSt LB Payton Wilson, UGA CB Kamari Lassiter all in play.

Next up OT, ND Blake Fisher...STEEEEEEEEEP drop off between he and Morgan/Guyton...gebins and credoes to Gutey for getting Morgan where he did.

@PackLandVA posted:

Skill position players make highlight plays....like DBs. And while DB is a need for Green Bay, so is O-line.  Why? Because that's what helps the Packers Skill position players on offense make the highlight plays.

Love this pick even though many fellow online schmos think it's a reach.  Probably a reach for some teams/prognosticators.  But not a reach for Gute. Trust the board. Morgan would've been gone at 41.

One thing about Gute is that he seems to value the building of a solid OL is what makes a team good.  You protect the franchise and it also builds a solid run game.  He also seems to trust his draft board and is not afraid to do what he knows what is right.  Does he miss sometimes?  All GMs do but I think he is on a roll right now.

@pkr_north posted:

bill belichick had the best take of any talking head.  kind of hope he starts doing commentary...that kind, otherwise he's dry.

It appears he is better talking about the draft then actually drafting.

If Morgan becomes the Pro Bowler many think he can become the 5th year option becomes important. 

Many are talking about his short arms, but they are longer than Barton's who many thought the Packer should have taken.

I generally like what Peter Bukowski does with regard to the Packers. He puts in a lot of work, gathers a lot of different sources...relies pretty heavily on Pro Football Fuckfest ratings as the predicate for many of his arguments, but I always consider that.

Then, every once in a while, he posts a giant L take and reminds me of why I often think he's a douche. Is he truly offended, or just doing this shit to harvest clicks?

@ammo posted:

Many are talking about his short arms, but they are longer than Barton's who many thought the Packer should have taken.

This is why fans are funny.  Ignore Barton's short arms all this time but suddenly Morgan's arm length is a problem.

Oh and Morgans hands are 1.5" larger than Barton's too.

@Chongo posted:

I generally like what Peter Bukowski does with regard to the Packers. He puts in a lot of work, gathers a lot of different sources...relies pretty heavily on Pro Football Fuckfest ratings as the predicate for many of his arguments, but I always consider that.

Then, every once in a while, he posts a giant L take and reminds me of why I often think he's a douche. Is he truly offended, or just doing this shit to harvest clicks?

Bukowski is a click whore.  Always has been.  See his AR takes when he was still on the team.  Remember that even when you agree with him, he's just telling you what you want to hear to generate clicks.  He's a common Twitter bobo.

The Morgan pick is the kind of solid pick you make when you have a stable, generally well-run, franchise. The scouting reports boil down to basically - "he's already pretty good, he'll at least be a decent starting OL, and with NFL-level nutrition and full-time strength training, could become a Pro Bowl type player."

The biggest concern as a Packers fan is that the Bears are going to be a whole lot better even if Caleb Williams is average. They might have the best WR room in the league (DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, and now Nabers). The Bears got to benefit from the fact that the Panthers are a clusterF@ck organization and ended up making what might go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history.

Bryce Young for Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, the 9th pick in the 2023 draft, and a 2nd round pick in 2024.

But even the Panthers have to be looking at the Falcons this morning in disbelief. They passed on Bill Belichick to have this braintrust sign a 36 year old QB coming off an ACL injury to a no-trade mega contract and then used the EIGHTH OVERALL PICK to draft a 24 year old QB with two ACL reconstruction to sit for at least 2-3 years? Penix will have to be a Hall of Famer to justify this pick.

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