Goalline posted:I don't. Rodgers has not been good over the last year. That is a fact.
And the defense and running game have been as big if not bigger factors in winning this season.
Galling. Hard to believe this passing offense is one of the worst in the league.
FLPACKER posted:
Last year I noticed for the first time opposing DB's sometimes letting our receivers get a little bit ahead and then just following them. Looks like it kind nullifies the route tree thing: whichever way the receiver cuts, just follow him. It works on the slower receivers. DB's can just catch up to them after the cut.
Bob is like every other "journalist" today; he is a member of the flavor-of-the-month club. His credibility (for this story) began and ended when he mentioned Scam Newton.
He had ONE (!) good season, and is generally a poor QB. Yet, he's elite??
Yeah, right, Bob. Gotcha, buddy. 
Players, not plays?
Aaron Rodgers was the only QB to get a first down on more than half of his third-down passes this season. https://t.co/JNSbT4JMSL
â Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) January 4, 2017
Hungry5 posted:Players, not plays?
Aaron Rodgers was the only QB to get a first down on more than half of his third-down passes this season. https://t.co/JNSbT4JMSL
â Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) January 4, 2017
Both.
Jordy Nelson Is Behind The Packersâ Renaissance
Interesting piece. Think it's a combination of several factors but no doubt Jordy played a key role. Do hope they continue to give Allison plenty of snaps when Cobb gets healthy. He's earned it and I think the offense is better with him on the field.
So you are telling me that he failed 49% of the time? Plenty room for improvement.
A good excellent hitter in manny-ball fails 66% of the time.
Still though....Room for improvement.
"Gentlemen we are going to relentlessly chase perfection. Knowing full well we will not catch it because nothing is perfect. But we are going to relentlessly chase it. Because in the process we will catch excellence. I'm not even remotely interested in being just good."
Love that quote.
Amish women, when making a quilt, intentionally make a mistake or two because according to their belief only God is perfect.
The Packers have played 6 games against a top 10 defense (according to rankings in the week they played). Only one of those were prior to the last 6 games. 5 of them were in the last six games. It didn't look good considering how they played against worse defenses - but they came thru. They persevered and won.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:The Packers have played 6 games against a top 10 defense (according to rankings in the week they played). Only one of those were prior to the last 6 games. 5 of them were in the last six games. It didn't look good considering how they played against worse defenses - but they came thru. They persevered and won.
Let me guess. The one good D they played before the streak was.... The Giants?
"Mister. The concentration period of a college student is 5 minutes. High school is 3 minutes. Kindergarten is 30 seconds. You don't even have that. So where does that put you?"
Vince to Jerry Kramer as a green kid after he jumped offsides in a scrimmage.
Afterwards Vince walked through the locker room. Put his hand on the back of Jerrys head and said. "Son. One day you'll be the best guard in football". And walked away.
There is nothing that beats the past, present, and future of the Green Bay Packers.
Viewing alert--NFL Network is replaying the Packer Giant game from earlier in the season....
YATittle posted:Ghost of Lambeau posted:The Packers have played 6 games against a top 10 defense (according to rankings in the week they played). Only one of those were prior to the last 6 games. 5 of them were in the last six games. It didn't look good considering how they played against worse defenses - but they came thru. They persevered and won.
Let me guess. The one good D they played before the streak was.... The Giants?
Good guess, but at the time they played the Giants defense was ranked 11th overall - in fact it probably would have been my guess. It was Minnesota in the second game - they were ranked 10th at the time.
Pikes Peak posted:Amish women, when making a quilt, intentionally make a mistake or two because according to their belief only God is perfect.
You haven't seen my hair.
Were you drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's?
Pikes Peak posted:Amish women, when making a quilt, intentionally make a mistake or two because according to their belief only God is perfect.
When I make something I usually make an unintentional mistake which I always consider to be the uniqueness of the item. And it provides entertainment afterward when you challenge people to find the mistake.
All I can say is that if you have to intentionally leave a mistake you are darn good. With me mistakes just happen. So maybe I am just better at mistakes than they are.
Pikes Peak posted:Amish women, when making a quilt, intentionally make a mistake or two because according to their belief only God is perfect.
That's just a rumor the Amish women posted on Facebook.
Aaron Rodgers has won 8 career NFC Player of the Month Awards, the most in NFL history pic.twitter.com/h87hhz72sK
â Randall Liu (@RLiuNFL) January 5, 2017
Another NFC Player of the Month award for AR.
The title of the thread was originally about his getting the D to jump offsides for free plays but it makes more sense now in the bigger picture. He's doing things QB's aren't supposed to be able to do. Imagine an opposing D or DC scheming to stop him or slow him down only to have him do what he does. At some point they're going to just throw their hands up and shake their heads mumbling "I hate my job".
It does make his performance during that stretch between DEN 15 and IND 16 even more puzzling.
You could see that look on the faces of the Lions players and coaches during the second half when they'd show the sidelines on TV. Especially after the nine-seconds to throw it TD pass to Allison. Where's the Kryptonite?
Our kryptonite would be our OL. If we didn't have those guys also giving him the time to throw and maintaining their blocks on those extended plays, Rodgers would be running for his life or he'd be as black and blue as Bradford.
It does make his performance during that stretch between DEN 15 and IND 16 even more puzzling.
I just don't get it. How can you be the best player on the planet and then have people suggesting you be benched....and then become Michael Jordan again!!! What happened ? Was he pouting to show that Ted is really mediocre ? 
Hungry5 posted:Love that quote.
yeah, me too
DH13 posted:It does make his performance during that stretch between DEN 15 and IND 16 even more puzzling.
2015 - No Nelson. Hurt or missed games - Cobb, Adams, Montgomery. No TE threat, Phat EddieâĒ.
2016 - Nelson not being Jordy! until about 6 or so games in. Cook working in to the Offense and then he goes down.
Just saw Rodgers on SoundFX.
At the end of the game he said to Stafford.....and I quote....
"Go get Seattle!"
Wonder if Seahawk fans "hate" now
Hungry5 posted:DH13 posted:It does make his performance during that stretch between DEN 15 and IND 16 even more puzzling.
2015 - No Nelson. Hurt or missed games - Cobb, Adams, Montgomery. No TE threat, Phat EddieâĒ.
2016 - Nelson not being Jordy! until about 6 or so games in. Cook working in to the Offense and then he goes down.
This has been hashed out ad infinitum and I'm the last one to want to resurrect it but those explanations don't explain him not seeing open receivers and missing them when they were open. I'm sure there is a tipping point somewhere in the offense where once you have just the right guys and number of guys it all clicks but he really did look...average in that stretch.
I made the original comment as a non sequitur because at this point I don't care what the problem was. I said good day!
Hungry5 posted:DH13 posted:It does make his performance during that stretch between DEN 15 and IND 16 even more puzzling.
2015 - No Nelson. Hurt or missed games - Cobb, Adams, Montgomery. No TE threat, Phat EddieâĒ.
2016 - Nelson not being Jordy! until about 6 or so games in. Cook working in to the Offense and then he goes down.
That plus pressing too hard and letting his fundamentals slip. What I really like about how MM adjusted the offense mid-season is the huge number of easy (for Aaron) throws 12 gets to make now. Fast short throws in rhythm. A lot of those sideline flips or short wheel patterns/come backs are nothing more than long handoffs to good runners in space. Mike makes these adjustments; Aaron starts stacking successes, getting even more mojo back for him and the squad; the additions to the receiving corps and running game get healthy and/or acclimated... now we're seeing this aerial circus.
In another thread someone suggested maybe bringing Chip Kelly in as a consultant to spice up the offense. Why? MM is and has always been a terrific offensive innovator in Green Bay. Sure Aaron makes everything a little easier, but still. McCarthy has the whole fricking package as an HC, IMO.
Heard a blip on the radio yesterday from Rodgers (talking w/Wilde) and AR talked about trust, timing, knowing... the little I heard, Rodgers owned this 2-way street.
I didn't say Chip could or should spice up the offense, but Chip's knowledge and perspective of the up-tempo style of offense is something that could add a different dynamic to this offense. McCarthy knows more about running an NFL offense than Chip ever will, but the up-tempo has been something they seemingly want to do more of. They don't seem able to quite make it as effective as it should be though.
The tempo on offense is as much on Rodgers as anyone IMO. The league regulates when the headset goes off, (15 sec's left on play-clock?), it's AR who runs the clock down to '0' before the snap. How would Kelly, or any coach, change that?
My sense is that the reason for the "hurry-up" part for the Packers is not to snap the ball quickly (unless there are 12 men on the field), but to get to the line quickly to stop substitutions and to give Rodgers more time to scan the defense.
I think we've seen the hurry up run both ways. More so lately it has been hurrying to get to the line then burn clock before the snap. Previously it has been hurrying to get more plays in and to keep the D on their heels. Didn't MM say something last year about having a goal of 50 plays per game on O?
I thought it was 65-70?
Up-tempo isn't just about getting to the line fast, reading the D and calling the play, it's about controlling the pace of the game to your advantage by varying the tempo of when the ball is snapped. It's a scheme that moves so fast it doesn't allow the D enough time to read the offense and properly communicate the defense. There's a lot that goes into that kind of package where you could be snapping the ball within 10 seconds of the ball being spotted or longer depending on how you're varying the tempo. You have to simplify the scheme on offense when you go into up-tempo mode, including the play calling and the offensive communication. When it's executed well, like New England has done with their Turbo package, it's really tough on defenses. I don't love Chip Kelly or this scheme, but I think both have a place in the NFL. It shouldn't be anyone's primary offense and Chip shouldn't be anyone's HC, but he has some ideas that I think could be valuable to a team with a smart QB like GB or New England.