AFC Championship Game

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Not the first post-30 but the second. After winning one pre-30.

Who are you talking about, DH? Bradshaw won a couple before age 30, his last after age 30. Elway won his first at 36 or 37, none before that although he lost, I believe, four.

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Originally posted by Music City:
I just read that USAToday article on the family of the 2 guys that got murdered- both families filed civil suits with Lewis and settled out of court. Doesn't that end the "ray Lewis is a murderer" talk? He wouldn't rat out his friends. Is that so uncommon?

Um.

No.

He's a POS.

He knew tons about how 2 people were killed by his buddies and obviously covered for them-----if you guys are good with that, I guess you're more forgiving than I am.

Now watch him go pray.

One of the best songs EVER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3d_E5ngil8

OK- so he's a piece of crap. He's not a murderer, or at least he doesn't appear to be.

And what about the families? It seems a bit disingenuous for them to cry foul about Ray Lewis' public profile and how they never got their closure, yet when both of them settled out of court for sums of money they signed a confidentiality agreement? They got paid, agreed to shut their mouths about the details, and now they cry about the lost loved ones?

Shame on the NFL for making this guy one of their "faces of the game", shame on the families for taking their $$$ and then crying anyways, shame on Lewis for not coming clean about what he knew or saw...

Shame on all of them.

he's a POS murderer.

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Who are you talking about, DH? Bradshaw won a couple before age 30, his last after age 30. Elway won his first at 36 or 37, none before that although he lost, I believe, four.

I was talking about QBs who won their FIRST BEFORE 30 and then ANOTHER ONE AFTER 30. The list of QBs not on the list seems a lot longer than those that did.

0N the list: Bradshaw, Montana?
OFF the list: P. Manning, Brady, Aikman, Elway, Farb, Simms?, E. Manning?, etc.

Bellichick the loser

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Originally posted by Music City:
OK- so he's a piece of crap. He's not a murderer, or at least he doesn't appear to be.

And what about the families? It seems a bit disingenuous for them to cry foul about Ray Lewis' public profile and how they never got their closure, yet when both of them settled out of court for sums of money they signed a confidentiality agreement? They got paid, agreed to shut their mouths about the details, and now they cry about the lost loved ones?

Shame on the NFL for making this guy one of their "faces of the game", shame on the families for taking their $$$ and then crying anyways, shame on Lewis for not coming clean about what he knew or saw...

Shame on all of them.

I hope he has to relive all of this for the next two weeks and has to answer more questions, about why he was charged with Obstruction of Justice. It doesn't add up to me, he had a posssee, he/they killed two cats, and he got off, because he has $$$. The cats got off becuase he didn't rat them out. Ridiculous. The families got paid, and it's swept under the rug, no one should be looking up to this guy and his thug lifestyle.

Where is the "Innocent until proven guilty" crowd when I need them?

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
Where is the "Innocent until proven guilty" crowd when I need them?

Haha, he's not innocent.

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no one should be looking up to this guy and his thug lifestyle.

Yes, I'm certain he has done nothing positive in the community. He's been a thug his entire life.

He's convicted of what? again exactly???

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Originally posted by Boris:

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no one should be looking up to this guy and his thug lifestyle.

Yes, I'm certain he has done nothing positive in the community. He's been a thug his entire life.

He's convicted of what? again exactly???

Just because someone does something good for their community doesn't mean they are a good person. He was convicted of obstruction of justice, making false statements to the police. Why would you do this? Maybe he will be better to answer why he obstructed justice? Or will he just say, "I made some bad decisions in the past ..." without coming up with a "truthful" answer on why he obstructed justice. If he was so clean in this mess, why did he pay off the family, before it went to a civil trial? Where is the man's suit, how do you just lose a suit?

Personally, anyone who has 6 kids with 4 different woman, is a little off, in my book, but I'm not the moral police.

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I was talking about QBs who won their FIRST BEFORE 30 and then ANOTHER ONE AFTER 30. The list of QBs not on the list seems a lot longer than those that did.

0N the list: Bradshaw, Montana?
OFF the list: P. Manning, Brady, Aikman, Elway, Farb, Simms?, E. Manning?, etc.

Late addition to your list: Roger Staubach. Born Feb 3, 1942, he won SB 6 on Jan 16, 1972, about two weeks before turning 30. He won another SB six years later.

And one more addition: You have Eli off the list, but he was born Jan 3 1981. This made him 27 for his first super bowl win over the Pats and just under 31 for the second, a year ago.