Just establishing this for now. Back later...
PLUS
We won
MINUS
AR didn't get a chance for a 5th TD
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+++
Amos
Adams
Jones
Rodgers cementing another MVP
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Kevin King's tackling
4th down defense.
AR's final QB rating for the season was 121.5
If MVS catches that second bomb, his QB rating ends up at 122.7.
The NFL record for a single season (2011 Rodgers) is 122.5.
One big +...what a great season when at one point last year we didn’t know if there would be a season. So glad the NFL season happened. GO PACK GO!
Alexander is just fucking absurd. Robinson gets his one catch against King (or two, I don’t know). That guy is The Shadow.
+ 12/17/ ah hell the whole thing was great 12 is just lights out
- no faith in st even Crosby right now I just don’t believe in him right now
- we almost beat ourselves 83 drop 20 drop 16 fumble
listen at the end of of it we are sitting pretty but the mistakes won’t beat good teams...we will lose making mistakes in the playoffs
hope they keep Mitch around- seeing the stark distance between ar and Mitch it’s a special thing going on right now let’s not f it up with our own mistakes and let’s get after it ... week after next lol yesssss baby
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Winning the first seed against the Bears.
Denying the last minute TD by that tight end guy.
Amos getting his interception against the Bears.
Adams getting his TD to tie Sharpe.
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MVS drop.
Multiple interception drops.
Rodgers not getting to 50.
Bak's injury even though it didn't happen during the game.
What a beautiful victory. Bare Killers!!!!! Way too many positives to list....
- Austin: Come on man!!!!
- King: Somebody needs to teach that dude how to wrap up.
- MVS's drop... UGH!
King is sort of the MVS of the D. Inconsistent play, big ups and downs, and drops balls that hit his hands.
Pluses
Rodgers = MVP. Anything else is criminal. Tonyan, Dafney, Lewis = what a trio. Adams.
No garbage time TD.
The running off the right side was good.
While the defense didn't get stops early in drives, they made them work long and hard to get scores.
Minuses
No Snacks sighting?
ST. Did not see that fumble coming from Austin. Hold my breath on every kickoff or punt.
Pluses and Minuses cuz they're head-scratchers
MVS. On every long ball, it's a coin flip if he'll catch it or not.
Oline held up, but Rodgers did not have an overabundance of time to throw and several times had to roll out to get away from the rush.
Unfortunately, the D also gave them fourth-and-short so many times they were almost gimmes to extend drives.
Overall, we beat the Bears, so who can complain for real? And in the end, the playoffs go through Lambeau!
++++ They just beat the Bears, the fucking Bears. And no matter what you read in the game thread it was never really close. Coulda, shoulda been 42 to 13.
++++ no serious injuries that I am aware of....the most important stat.
++++ 2 weeks to get the new line coached up and get the little dings healed.
++++ the road to the SB goes thru GB...What more can we ask?
------ way to much rube chat whine line shit going on lately. Field bad (Soldier Field in January, this just in, it ain't Augusta in May). refs bad ( a typical NFL game, some missed, some wrong, most right) and no, the NFL does not have it in for the GB Packers.
Did he play today? Or was BearBite posting this like a missing child on a milk carton kinda thing?
@BearBite posted:
@Pikes Peak posted:------ way to much rube chat whine line shit going on lately. Field bad (Soldier Field in January, this just in, it ain't Augusta in May). refs bad ( a typical NFL game, some missed, some wrong, most right) and no, the NFL does not have it in for the GB Packers.
SCREW YOU! BAD, BAD FIELD!
+ Win
+Daffney power!
- It's more clear than ever they need to find some good coin for Jones while fixing the cap.
+ No significant injuries
+ Having to play a competitive game. I love the bye, but too much time off can cause problems too. Having to play hard today is better than resting your players. (but only if there are no big injuries)
+ Bears still make the playoffs so now they might have to keep Mitch and all the rest.
Time to heal the dings, especially on the Oline, is very welcome. As it is for Z, Barnes, et al. It's also good to give Clark a breather and get Keke over the concussion.
@DH13 posted:That last tackle stoning a guy he gives up 8" and 50lbs to was impressive.
It was impressive except that we do have to take into account it was Jimmy Graham. He's not exactly a physical guy in terms of effort.
Not to look past the playoffs, but it also became clearer to me today that the Packers have a number of blue chip players as the foundation for the future. Obviously there is Rodgers, and although we don't know how much longer he'll be a Packer, he is the best player in the league. But there are also Bak (provided he recovers from his injury), Jenkins, Alexander, Adams, and perhaps even Savage, who are or will be near the top of the league at their positions. Hopefully that means wins over the Bears for many more years to come.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It was impressive except that we do have to take into account it was Jimmy Graham. He's not exactly a physical guy in terms of effort.
I was just trying to capture the spirit of the thing.
@Dr._Bob posted:Not to look past the playoffs, but it also became clearer to me today that the Packers have a number of blue chip players as the foundation for the future. Obviously there is Rodgers, and although we don't know how much longer he'll be a Packer, he is the best player in the league. But there are also Bak (provided he recovers from his injury), Jenkins, Alexander, Adams, and perhaps even Savage, who are or will be near the top of the league at their positions. Hopefully that means wins over the Bears for many more years to come.
I Love it.
@Dr._Bob posted:Not to look past the playoffs, but it also became clearer to me today that the Packers have a number of blue chip players as the foundation for the future. Obviously there is Rodgers, and although we don't know how much longer he'll be a Packer, he is the best player in the league. But there are also Bak (provided he recovers from his injury), Jenkins, Alexander, Adams, and perhaps even Savage, who are or will be near the top of the league at their positions. Hopefully that means wins over the Bears for many more years to come.
Yeah, clear evidence that Gute doesn’t know what he’s doing, because he didn’t panic and start drafting for immediate needs.
3rd quarter sucked but held them to a field goal.
If the Packers make the Super Bowl (win or lose I would argue) it will be a very successful season. Bakh was a big reason they won 13 games, but if they get to a Super Bowl by winning two playoff games without him, does it change the discussion about whether they should have signed him or Aaron Jones? It will be good fodder for this board. If you had to rank the Packer players based on talent and how much of a dropoff there is to their replacements, the rankings would be something like this.
1. Rodgers (you could lose the rest of the guys on this list simultaneously and still be better off than if you lost Rodgers)
2. Alexander
3. Adams
4. Bakhtiari
5. A. Jones
6. E. Jenkins
7. Z. Smith
8. Kenny Clark
9. Savage
10. King (just because it would force Josh Jackson on the field)
11. Tonyan
12. P. Smith
13. Crosby
14. Linsley
15.
+ Patrick / Wagner held up well vs. 2 of best players they will face
+ AR / Adams
+ Clark had another good game
+ Alexander is now rarely even thrown against.
+ After giving up QB sneak twice on less than a yard, we put Snacks over the center which I think made Bears go to that pass that ended their hopes
+ Kirksey much better at Will
+ Savage / Amos solid
- Turner was shaky
- Hate to beat a dead horse but I am hating King.
- Expected Lazard to get more targets based on Bears trying to take Adams away & the injuries to DBs they had.
- STs again
You can patch and help missing one OL for a couple games. Different story if that OL misses a whole season. Other factors in "who you pay" but I don't think a couple games, even in the playoffs tells the whole story.
Yes & having AR as the QB minimizes missing one starting o-lineman. I was thinking that watching the Giants / Cowboys some earlier. Neither QB could see (or feel ) the rush and never avoided it like AR does. I would put Clark (the way he is playing the last 4-5 games) further up the list. His elevated play is a major reason for improved defensive play. Also Amos instead of P. Smith?
@Fandame posted:Time to heal the dings, especially on the Oline, is very welcome. As it is for Z, Barnes, et al. It's also good to give Clark a breather and get Keke over the concussion.
Maybe Sternberger will recover from the concussion he had in... what was it, October?
Sternberger has a limited role at this point. With Bak out a guy that can block and catch is more important.
@Timpranillo posted:Did he play today? Or was BearBite posting this like a missing child on a milk carton kinda thing?
He got a sack
Wow, tops in the NFC, beautiful.
Praises:
Rodgers + Adams
Playmakers: Jones, Tonyan MVS, Amos etc.
Another R coming in late in Dafney.
Dillon not needed but his time will come.
Lots of players making difference even if not on the stat sheet: Sullivan, Clark,
Lazard, Lewis, Barnes and Snacks sighting on only 4th down stop.
Concerns:
D not getting stops but they did hold Bears to FGs
Alexander is lights out but that forces ball to King.
O blanked in 1st and especially 3rd qtr.
Special Teams, ah yeah...
I'm just enjoying the win over da Bears and taking it as it comes.
Uh, the offense had the ball once in the 1st quarter and got a TD from that drive. It was just finished in the 2nd quarter. 3 drives in the first half, 3 TD's.
Great Game! ST is definitely concerning, but Defense bailed them out of a potentially disastrous situation. I don't really get the negs on King. I think he's been playing aggressively and tackling well for a corner. It shouldn't be his job to bring down RBs, but he has, and fairly often lately. That should be up to Dline, LBs, and at worst safeties.
Negatives: I nearly used a nasty cuss word in front of my family for 2 plays in particular. Of course the MVS drop was one. The other was maybe an 8 yard reception by the Bears rookie WR where 3 Packers missed fairly easy tackles on the play. There’s bad tackling on many plays but I thought that play in particular was just pathetic at a crucial part of the game.
Positives: This team is not perfect but there seems to be something special about it, in particular numbers 12 and 17. No 12 wasn’t perfect but had MVS not made that drop, I think he possibly could have had a perfect game he was that hot.
The Bears played pretty well today on their way backing into the playoffs and yet the Pack still found a way to win by 19. Good stuff.
Edit: I had to laugh when Jimmy Graham got a pass in the flat and had a grand total of 1 yards running after the catch when most other TEs would have gotten at least a couple more than that. He is mostly done and the Bears were idiots to give him as much money as they did. Glad we gave Tonyan a chance, he’s much better than Jimmy nowadays.
Plus
In the last 29 years I've been able to see the Packers go 44-14 vs the Bears after 20 years of ugly losses, bad teams, embarrassing moments and getting beat down regularly.
I've got to witness a 20-3 stretch with Favre and a 21-4 stretch with Rodgers.
I've been able to see the Packers beat the Bears in Chicago for the right to go to the Super Bowl. A game where I truly thought, and to this day still believe with all my being, that my father would die of an aneurysm if the Packers lost. Last team to win a playoff game in Solider Field? That right, the Green Bay Packers...
I got to see Rodgers get injured by the Bears in week 9, and then come back week 17 and beat the Bears on a last minute TD in a game where the winner went to playoffs and loser stayed home.
And today I got to see the Packers beat the Bears again. And win the #1 seed. And make the Bears making the playoffs just a bit less special as they had to require the Cardinals losing their starting QB and losing to back in.
Beating the Bears is like Christmas, my birthday, and NYE all rolled into one. Every time it's as good as sports gets.
Minus
Catch the dang ball guys. MVS, King, whomever, catch the dang ball when it hits you in your dang hands.
@FLPACKER posted:Yes & having AR as the QB minimizes missing one starting o-lineman. I was thinking that watching the Giants / Cowboys some earlier. Neither QB could see (or feel ) the rush and never avoided it like AR does. I would put Clark (the way he is playing the last 4-5 games) further up the list. His elevated play is a major reason for improved defensive play. Also Amos instead of P. Smith?
You're right. Amos should be higher because of the dropoff after him is a lot more than from P. Smith to Gary.
@Brewcrew posted:Great Game! ST is definitely concerning, but Defense bailed them out of a potentially disastrous situation. I don't really get the negs on King. I think he's been playing aggressively and tackling well for a corner. It shouldn't be his job to bring down RBs, but he has, and fairly often lately. That should be up to Dline, LBs, and at worst safeties.
Football players, regardless of position, are supposed to tackle.