Blueprint of Blame

I'm still trying to figure out how they won 2 games 🤷‍♂️

@Boris posted:

I'm still trying to figure out how they won 2 games 🤷‍♂️

A good solid roster steered by a strong hand.

The Blueprint of Blame for the Silos of Shame

You just gave me a thread title idea.

But enough about you...

My balls itch.

Murphy is the #1 problem the team has.  I wish the board would just throw his shit on the curb and lock the doors.  He inherited a lambo and is going  to leave it a Yugo.  Nobody gives a shit about sledding hills.  Great job, Alfred E Neumoron.  You can shove your silos up your ass.

@Harry Manback posted:

He inherited a lambo and is going  to leave it a Yugo.  

How long did you craft this one up before waiting for the time to use her?

love hurts.

"Special Teams - of the three phases of the game, ST have been ok...was hoping for a top-10 unit with the hire of highly-regarded Bisaccia - but settling for an ok unit is livable considering where it used to be.  Grade C"

STs coverage units sucked, in the viking game. Still, Bisaccia is the best coach on the team.

They are basically a miracle win away from being 1-6.

I don’t think the injuries have helped one bit.  Many of their key guys have missed multiple games.  

We also knew that Love would be a work in progress.

Still, the coaching has been awful across the board.  The team looks uninspired, unprepared, and undisciplined.  

It’s also not like they’ve been playing Baltimore or Cincinnati or Philadelphia every week.  

Just not a good team.

Some blistering (and well-deserved) criticism of MLF.

"If MLF doesn't get this figured out he's going to get fired."

The fanboys have not turned their disdain for 12 to MLF.

@Harry Manback posted:

Murphy is the #1 problem the team has.  I wish the board would just throw his shit on the curb and lock the doors.  He inherited a lambo and is going  to leave it a Yugo.  Nobody gives a shit about sledding hills.  Great job, Alfred E Neumoron.  You can shove your silos up your ass.

THIS!

@Tavis Smiley posted:

How long did you craft this one up before waiting for the time to use her?

Honestly, it was spur of the moment.

@PackLandVA posted:

My balls itch.

Youngest and least expensive offense in the league.

Also, least explosive offense.

DRAFT AND DEVELOP!!!

GM - Gutey owns this roster.  Only three players remain that were drafted by Ted Thompson - David Bakhtiari, Kenny Clark, and Aaron Jones.  He also benefitted from getting return on Thompson assets...Adams and Rodgers - so far parlayed into Quay Walker and Luke Musgrave (and allowed him to maneuver to draft Christian Watson and Lukas Van Ness), with a 2024 2nd round pick to come.  Grade C

How the fuck is a 2- 6 roster, cap hell, and losing Adams / Rodgers for Quay, Musgrave, Watson, LVN, and a future mid level 2nd a C grade?

That's a full blown PH fail.

I believe the talent is there...even a Brainded moran would have agreed that kicking the salary cap pain down the road was the right thing to do during the AR12 sunset years.  Unfortunately, the result is a massive dead cap this year.  That is why I placed worse grades on the coaching and offense - Frenchie is supposed to be an offensive guru and his offense is miserable, especially the opening game plans.  The young players seem to be regressing - that is definitely a product of poor coaching.  OL was a strength with Steno as the coach - the majority of these guys were there last year...Butkis seems to be out of his element and Steno should likely be down one step on the coaching tree.

I would rather give Gutey one more draft before grading him too harshly.

My biggest problem of all this mess is with the O-line, specifically 71 and 76. It's Runyon's 4th year and Myers 3rd. It's showtime for what they're capable of and both fell flat on their face so far. We can piss and moan about coaching, but Tom seems to have things figured out pretty well. I'll always put it on the player's preparation first if some are doing well and others aren't.

Seems to me they are desperate to get their preferred run blocking unit out there because they're desperate to make 3rd down manageable. Understandable with the inexperience, but I'd really like to see Tom at center to settle things mentally , 76 on the bench and 71 at RG to see if he's better without having to think about line calls. Let Tom lead the way in the middle of the line. He's made it known people are showing up for snap one unprepared. I have no problem with him ascending to a position of holding other guys accountable despite his youth . He's the one young bright spot. If we had another one of him the O-line would be manageable.

What's happening right now, imo, is 71 and 76 are being evaluated and playing their way off the 2024 team. What's also happening is too many draft picks are puttering out and not being worthy of 2nd contracts.

I agree on the what you said about bitching about coaching but at the end of the day it does come down to the players executing as professionals and holding each other accountable.

The OL is a mess right now and I think to get this team back on track it starts and ends with the OL.  If you can run the ball you do the long sustained drives that other teams are doing to the Packers. 

As for Myers putting him at guard might be a great idea.  Why?  the guy is a local kid and for his entire playing career he was a OT and when OSU got in a bind at center because of injuries they put him at center.  The guy is a natural tackle/guard and as you said timfatied, maybe he will do better not having to make calls at the line and just line up and play.  Maybe it wouldn't work out but it might be worth a shot.

Packers.com has Myers listed as a C/G and Tom as OL.  These two guys are the only ones listed with these position descriptors (all other o-line are listed as G, G/T, or T).  Has Myers ever played a snap at G for the Pack?

So the #Packers have now lost to two teams who benched their QBs and one of those teams also fired their coach AND GM. pic.twitter.com/1Eg3RNEyDd

— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) November 1, 2023

It used to be you had to lose to the Packers to get fired.

WE’VE FOUND AN AREA OF INCREASED EFFICIENCY!

Interesting how the chief MLF/Love ballwasher is now turning generically on "the Packers."

You want some chuckles? Re-read this! 

https://packers.timesfour.com/...os-neg-thread?page=4

I kept thinking about week 1.

The Bears have played good in spots after week 1.

How in the blue hell did Pack look so good in 2nd half of week 1???

Amazing what scouting can do. DC's have been way ahead of MLF since that game, especially in preparing game plans, which we've seen completely stymie us in First Halves.  

This easy then. Just do the opposite of what the defense expects you to do.  We win!!!

I'm not concerned about the record.  They weren't making a deep playoff run so who cares if they finish 8-9 rather than 5-12.  I just wanted to see enough flashes from the young players on offense to solidify a good, young nucleus we could build around.  But I'm not seeing any young players flash which makes me question if there is a championship caliber nucleus on this offense.  But I guess may as well learn that now so we adjust for 2024. 

On defense though......God only knows what will fix it.  We sucked on defense forever that I don't know what the problem is anymore. 

@CUPackFan posted:

I'm not concerned about the record.  They weren't making a deep playoff run so who cares if they finish 8-9 rather than 5-12.  I just wanted to see enough flashes from the young players on offense to solidify a good, young nucleus we could build around.  But I'm not seeing any young players flash which makes me question if there is a championship caliber nucleus on this offense.  But I guess may as well learn that now so we adjust for 2024.

On defense though......God only knows what will fix it.  We sucked on defense forever that I don't know what the problem is anymore.

I am with you on the defense.  The struggles are not a recent thing this has been going on for a decade now.  They changes coaches nothing changes and they put all of that money and draft picks in to is and still the same thing.

I obviously don't think we are going to know what the future is this year but I think we will start to see what the future might be how this team looks next year.  The good thing is that if they progress it doesn't take much in the NFL these days with team rising and falling. 

@ammo posted:

This easy then. Just do the opposite of what the defense expects you to do.  We win!!!

The Opposite George defense?

@The Heckler posted:

I agree on the what you said about bitching about coaching but at the end of the day it does come down to the players executing as professionals and holding each other accountable.

The OL is a mess right now and I think to get this team back on track it starts and ends with the OL.  If you can run the ball you do the long sustained drives that other teams are doing to the Packers.

As for Myers putting him at guard might be a great idea.  Why?  the guy is a local kid and for his entire playing career he was a OT and when OSU got in a bind at center because of injuries they put him at center.  The guy is a natural tackle/guard and as you said timfatied, maybe he will do better not having to make calls at the line and just line up and play.  Maybe it wouldn't work out but it might be worth a shot.

Almost anything's worth a shot at this point.  There's nothing to lose but draft position.

Listened to MLF presser today. Asked a question about if it was harder on young receivers to know exactly what to do vs. zone rather than man coverage. MLF talked about all the variables and different types of zones. He then added that it was up to him to get them in "the right call" for the coverage the defense is playing. Again this speaks to my concern .... good players, rather than good plays win. Too much emphasis on scheme rather than fundamentals and technique, which develop players.