Bucs at Crew

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Are you serious?
Corey Hart was a god-send last year at 1st, he is a natural 1st baseman ... and a damn good one.

A natural 1rst basemen, even a good one, isn't going to be a better defender than a short stop, even a bad one.

In 2012 Hart had a UZR/150 of -13.2 at 1rst base.. So far, in a limited sample, Yuni has a -9.2.. I'm not a big believer in D metrics, but it's all you can cite besides personal opinion when debating defense.

defensive metrics with small samples are even worse. First base is tough simply because if a guy digs a throw out of the dirt it is an out, if he misses it, the error is on the guy who made the throw. What impressed me about Hart, was not just that he got the ball hit to him, but he caught about everything thrown his way. I always thought that is what made Pujols such a good first basemen, he gobbled up every throw that was close.

I'm not sure Yuni even demonstrates more range than Hart. If healthy, I would certainly never bring Yuni in as a defensive replacement for Hart either.

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If healthy, I would certainly never bring Yuni in as a defensive replacement for Hart either.

Good point.

I did mention in a previous post that the one advantage Hart has is lenght.. As far as picking the ball, I have to believe that Yuni has softer hands.. You don't get to play SS in the MLB with bad hands.

John Jaha's hands were like a baby's bottom. Billy Jo Robidoux's like that of a soft feather.

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Originally posted by BrainDed:

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If healthy, I would certainly never bring Yuni in as a defensive replacement for Hart either.

Good point.

I did mention in a previous post that the one advantage Hart has is lenght.. As far as picking the ball, I have to believe that Yuni has softer hands.. You don't get to play SS in the MLB with bad hands.

Ah yeah ... if you do not understand what you are watching then yeah go off the stats.

There is a world of difference playing SS then 1st base, just because Segura is the new Wizard of OZ at SS ... he'd be about 6th guy I'd put at first.
And if you are talkin Weeks, who "would have soft hands because he is a 2nd baseman", He'd be the very last guy on the roster including probably most pitchers I'd put at first for defense.

But thats just me, I'm crazy that way.

GoGo with a dong! 2-1 Crew...thankfully not sitting vs. the righty like he should be...

...and now Yuni!...who shouldn't even be on the team!

Good uniform day at the Keg. Love the classy bright whites of the Crew and those black tops for the Scalawags are the bomb!

Axford!

Maybe I need to cut him from my fantasy team...

LOL Weeks. Sucks it looks like they will blow this one...

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Originally posted by Maynard:
Axford!

Maybe I need to cut him from my fantasy team...

I cut him last week.

He needs to be buried on the bench for a while.

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Originally posted by trump:
Ah yeah ... if you do not understand what you are watching then yeah go off the stats.

There is a world of difference playing SS then 1st base, just because Segura is the new Wizard of OZ at SS ... he'd be about 6th guy I'd put at first.
And if you are talkin Weeks, who "would have soft hands because he is a 2nd baseman", He'd be the very last guy on the roster including probably most pitchers I'd put at first for defense.

But thats just me, I'm crazy that way.

Yes, that world of difference is that it requires much more skill. Typically, you hide your worst defenders at 1rst base.. You know, the Prince Fielders and Big Pappi's of the world..

But keep throwing out weak insults while trying to support your position. It's a sure fire way to win a losing argument.

Yeah, Weeks and Betancourt would make better 1st basemen than Corey Hart ...

you just might be the only 1 in the world that believes that.

Good teams do not hide their worst defender at first ... WTF, you think this is little league?

Some of the best big(fat) men have been great first basemen that made your sure-handed guys look acceptable.

The Crew use to have that very guy, George Scott ... big tub of lard but he was quick and could scoop with anybody in his day. I believe he saved the beloved Robin Yount a few errors when the Kid was going thru puberty in Milwaukee.

Teams generally hide their worst players at 1B and left field. However, I do not agree that Yuni would be a better 1B than Hart (which I believe is the initial discussion). Hart's 6-6 frame really should end the discussion but also remember that Hart came up as a 3B.

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Originally posted by trump:
Good teams do not hide their worst defender at first ... WTF, you think this is little league?

Some of the best big(fat) men have been great first basemen that made your sure-handed guys look acceptable.

The Crew use to have that very guy, George Scott ... big tub of lard but he was quick and could scoop with anybody in his day. I believe he saved the beloved Robin Yount a few errors when the Kid was going thru puberty in Milwaukee.

The Boomer was quite the scooper, he was my guy in those days.....in fact I named my pup after him. He also was a true slugger, if I recall correctly he coined the term " tater", long time ago so I may be wrong on this.

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Originally posted by trump:
Yeah, Weeks and Betancourt would make better 1st basemen than Corey Hart ...

you just might be the only 1 in the world that believes that.

Where did I say Weeks? Oh, that's right, you just made it up for some strange reason.

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Originally posted by trump:
Good teams do not hide their worst defender at first ... WTF, you think this is little league?

Yes, they most certainly do.

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Hart's 6-6 frame really should end the discussion but also remember that Hart came up as a 3B.

I have acknowledged his length in being a strength.. I think he played some 3B but couldn't stick and got moved to 1B as he progressed. Then was finally moved to OF as he was blocked by Prince.

Could be wrong, but that's how I recall it.

actually started out as a first basemen, then moved to third, then OF

Disappointing loss today and Axford blows another one

That's 3 losses and a blown save (leading to a loss) for him this year. He's basically trending as bad if not worse than last season. At what point does he get the ax?

I think RR needs to move Groz into the setup role.

If you look at Ax's game log, after the horrific start and yesterday, he has been quite sharp. Although that HR was crushed, the other hits were cheapies for sure. He has made mechanical adjustments and they have seemed to have worked. No way should he be released.

That being said, I would prefer RR play to match-ups instead of the set in stone "8th inning guy." Not sure if that would have meant a lefty yesterday or not.