After reading the title I ask;
How many missed tackles did Capers have?
How many passes did Capers allowed completions on?
How many sweeps was Capers ouy run?
How many assignments did Capers fail?
Oh, and what number was he?
quote:Originally posted by RatPack:
After reading the title I ask;
How many missed tackles did Capers have?
How many passes did Capers allowed completions on?
How many sweeps was Capers ouy run?
How many assignments did Capers fail?
Oh, and what number was he?
Caper IS frickin responsible. It is HIS defense. I don't care how he does it, but it is his job to put players in position to succeed. He needs to figure out the best way to utilize his players strong points and avoid their shortcomings. I say again, Capers is ultimately responsible for the success and/or failure of this defense as he is the defensive coordinator.
I wish we could get other teams to cover our WRs with their LBs.
When Hawk causes a turnover, Hell just froze over.
quote:Caper IS frickin responsible. It is HIS defense.
While I hear what RatPack is saying, ultimately indeed the buck stops with Capers and MM.
Couple of reports are surfacing that on more then one occasion MD Jennings and others in the secondary looked "lost" and there was miscommunications where Burnett thought he had help. He didn't. And Woodson was also making excuses.
From Packer Update:
quote:"Woodson said "it happens" when asked about the miscommunication on the Moss TD. True, but it happens way too much in GB."
If players aren't understanding where to line up or who has who in coverage, that speaks directly to coaching IMO.
I understand MD Jennings is no Nick Collins. But after a full OTA, mini-camp, TC and pre-season this kind of thing should not be goin' on.
How can the guys in our secondary and linebacking corps not know who they are supposed to be covering? Our tackling was horrible, granted, but there were 49ers running around wide open in the middle of the field, and not a Packer in sight.
If we can't get our players where they're supposed to be, the rest is academic. Dom Capers is supposed to get everybody on the same page in preseason. Rookies or veterans, there's no excuse for not knowing where you are supposed to be.
If we can't get our players where they're supposed to be, the rest is academic. Dom Capers is supposed to get everybody on the same page in preseason. Rookies or veterans, there's no excuse for not knowing where you are supposed to be.
Sorry, Packerboi, I didn't see your post before I finished mine. So, if mine sounds like a repeat of the same thing, it's only because we're both thinking the same way.
Smith's tackling was atrocious. We will miss Bishop all year long.
Play that upset me with Capers' calls: 9ers bring in Kapernick at end of first half to run. What did we do? Rush three guys who get picked off, leaving Kapernick huge holes to run to. All he had to do was pick and choose. Come ON! The only reason he was in there was to run the ball! We at least needed a LB or two to keep an eye on him. Instead everyone ran back like Kapernick was going to throw a bomb and he picks up a bazillion yards to even give them a shot at the 63-yarder (which was a heck of a kick). You had to know Kapernick was running -- I was yelling, "Why only three on the line? He's going to run!" If I can see it, you'd think Dom could too.
quote:Originally posted by YATittle:
Smith's tackling was atrocious. We will miss Bishop all year long.
Overreaction.
Capers needs to find some way to put more pressure on the QB. Like last year, there were many times when the QB had so much time to find a receiver. If our defense continues like it has started it will make a lot of QB's look good.
Capers can only put players in a position to succeed, he can't actually make them succeed. He lays out his plan, the position coaches teach it to their players, Capers trusts his players know what to do and then the players have to execute. I'm not making excuses for Dom Capers, but 2 years ago he was a frickin genius and is still regarded as one of the top defensive minds in the league. He has to work with what he's given and if Jarrett Bush is the 2nd best CB on the team (which he must be because why would they knowingly start an inferior player?), then that blame falls on Ted Thompson for not shoring up that position.
From what I saw, he had the right calls dialed up against the 49ers and I think had a good game plan, the players just weren't executing. The ILB's overran plays, took very poor angles and were content with launching into the ball carrier rather than wrapping up. The Safetys were lost all day, didn't matter who was in. That's not a Capers problem, that's MD Jennings and everyone else having a brain fart and forgetting what they were coached to do. The CBs weren't being physical and supporting the run also, that's not a Capers problem. Why isn't he getting credit for all the positive things that happened? We had close to 5 sacks against a team that averaged giving up 2/game last year. What about the fact that Capers only allowed 3 20+ yard plays and 0 40+ yard plays while the 49ers D allowed 2 20+ and 1 40+. You have to give him credit for the good things if you're going to blame him for the bad things.
So all this horsesh*t about how Capers failed or should be on the hotseat is just that, horsesh*t. Give a coordinator the tools he needs and he will get you results, give him CJ Wilson, Jarrett Bush, and MD Jennings and you're going to get whooped.
From what I saw, he had the right calls dialed up against the 49ers and I think had a good game plan, the players just weren't executing. The ILB's overran plays, took very poor angles and were content with launching into the ball carrier rather than wrapping up. The Safetys were lost all day, didn't matter who was in. That's not a Capers problem, that's MD Jennings and everyone else having a brain fart and forgetting what they were coached to do. The CBs weren't being physical and supporting the run also, that's not a Capers problem. Why isn't he getting credit for all the positive things that happened? We had close to 5 sacks against a team that averaged giving up 2/game last year. What about the fact that Capers only allowed 3 20+ yard plays and 0 40+ yard plays while the 49ers D allowed 2 20+ and 1 40+. You have to give him credit for the good things if you're going to blame him for the bad things.
So all this horsesh*t about how Capers failed or should be on the hotseat is just that, horsesh*t. Give a coordinator the tools he needs and he will get you results, give him CJ Wilson, Jarrett Bush, and MD Jennings and you're going to get whooped.
i have a hard time understanding why the other team's receivers seem to be wide open so often.
We have a crap interior D. So the secondary has more responsibilities than they can handle.
Bush is our 2nd best CB. That just magnifies the problem.
Bush is our 2nd best CB. That just magnifies the problem.
Last year the Packers had the worst defense in the league. They gave up a lot of big plays and yards. This year the defense starts by giving up a lot of big plays and yards. I do not need to know much more than that to suspect if the defense ends the season still giving up big yards and big yards then Capers may not be the defensive coronation in 2013.
quote:Originally posted by packerboi:
I understand MD Jennings is no Nick Collins. But after a full OTA, mini-camp, TC and pre-season this kind of thing should not be goin' on.
This. Collins has been gone for almost a calendar year. This is no excuse.
TT has left two HUGE holes on Defense - Starting CB and Nicekl Safety. Bush is nothing more than a special teams player. MD Jennings is not an NFL player. Not one of his draft pciks did anything yestrday besides perry. pathetic
What's pathetic is you believing TT should be able to manufacture a Pro Bowl Safety & Pro Bowl CB out of thin air. It doesn't work that way. This isn't fantasy football
It's a different kind of fantasy football for kfed.
In looking at what's wrong with the D, it's constructive to compare it to the other guys on the field yesterday. Opposing QBs have found gaping holes in the middle, as have running backs found the soft belly there. We completed a good number of passes on their middle yesterday too but wow, what a difference between two 3-4 schemes. The biggest contrast that jumps out at me is how quickly the SF defenders close on a ball carrier and when they get to him, they hit him. Hard. Even when we completed passes, our WR's were getting smacked good. They make you earn and then pay for every advance of the ball.
And while it's great we managed 4.5 sacks yesterday, the pressure wasn't consistent enough. Smith was way too comfortable dropping back for most of the game. It was almost as if he was suprised when a defender got to him. Our D needs to make opposing QBs a lot more jumpy on a play to play basis.
I hope they are better prepared for CHI because it's looking like 0-2 from here.
In looking at what's wrong with the D, it's constructive to compare it to the other guys on the field yesterday. Opposing QBs have found gaping holes in the middle, as have running backs found the soft belly there. We completed a good number of passes on their middle yesterday too but wow, what a difference between two 3-4 schemes. The biggest contrast that jumps out at me is how quickly the SF defenders close on a ball carrier and when they get to him, they hit him. Hard. Even when we completed passes, our WR's were getting smacked good. They make you earn and then pay for every advance of the ball.
And while it's great we managed 4.5 sacks yesterday, the pressure wasn't consistent enough. Smith was way too comfortable dropping back for most of the game. It was almost as if he was suprised when a defender got to him. Our D needs to make opposing QBs a lot more jumpy on a play to play basis.
I hope they are better prepared for CHI because it's looking like 0-2 from here.
Lose to CHI 10-7 or 17-14 would be one thing, have the Bears score 28 or more on them would be inexcusable.
Bush may not have been the only problem yesterday, but I wonder how his limitations as a CB impact the play of others like Williams, Woodson, Burnett, etc...?
Only as strong as your weakest link?
Bush may not have been the only problem yesterday, but I wonder how his limitations as a CB impact the play of others like Williams, Woodson, Burnett, etc...?
Only as strong as your weakest link?
quote:Originally posted by packerboi:
I understand MD Jennings is no Nick Collins.
At this point, he isn't as good as Charlie Peprah
Other than Clay, there was little pass rush which didn't help the awful secondary play. And then, you see slow footed LB's covering slot receivers. AJ Hawk on Michael Crabtree ?? Blown assignments in the secondary !!! The safety play was awful, including some missed tackles by Burnett who is a third year man.
The run defense got pushed around including Pickett and Raji while the ILB's continually got washed out. Saw Perry get abused on seal blocks by the TE or WR !!!! At the same time, if your OLB is getting cracked by a WR then your CB needs to contain. SIX &@%^& yards per carry by the 9ers !!!! That folks is ****ty run defense.
Capers young defense needs to grow up fast. Hopefully Richardson or McMillan can replace Jennings . And House or Hayward can send Bush to the bench !
Good point Packdog. What was it with the wide receiver/linebacker mismatches? What the H was wrong with Woody in the slot, 2-3 corners and 2 safetys? Play with the two rush linebackers and sit Smith and Hawk. Take away the pass and run blitz. Just seemed like the Pack never was attacking other than 52, 21 and Perry.
We know Bush can't cover anything but a pot on the stove. Put Hayward in let him learn, we take our lumps and maybe we will have another corner in 2-3 yrs.
quote:Lose to CHI 10-7 or 17-14 would be one thing, have the Bears score 28 or more on them would be inexcusable.
Maybe inexcuseable but it wouldn't be shocking to see CHI score 28. This is a better CHI offense than last year with the additions of Bush, Jeffrey and Marshall. And a healthy Cutler. Before he got hurt last year I think they were almost averaging 28/game without the roster help.
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Capers can only put players in a position to succeed, he can't actually make them succeed.
Yup. I know my Boss expects me to do my job. And he's not gonna hold my hand to get it done.
You rarely ever hear (or read) a player say "I screwed up, this was on me". About a dozen Packer players could utter those words today.