Carlos Gomez not traded to Mets, Astros get him and Fiers. Parra to the Obirds. Broxton to the Cards.

not awful, hoped for more.  Current feelings is underwhelmed.

 

Intrigued by Wheeler, not a fan of Flores

but Flores is still on field for Mets. Maybe it has not been finalized. 

If true, not a good deal for Crew.  Wheeler just had TJ surgery in March and I don't know what they see in Flores.

 

They should have waited till the off-season to unload Carlos. Usually get better returns in Winter market.

There was the late rumor that Lagares would take the place of Flores.

 

That would make a lot more sense, IMO.

 

Nobody knows now if this was an equal return, a steal or highway robbery (from either side of the coin).

 

I remember feelings when the Crew traded JJ for GoGo. I thought that was stupid at the time.

 

I will definitely miss GoGo but I have always felt that the Crew got his 'peak.' I wish him the best and let the rebuilding continue!

Maybe not, but we can just assume that Melvin screwed it up based on his 20+ years of mediocre (at best) GM'ing.

Flores is still playing, seems odd if he is part of the package

 

Still hoping for:

 

RHP-Zack Wheeler

OF-Brandon Nimmo

1B-Dominic Smith

 

splitterpfj @ brewerfan.net came up with that one and I like it.  Seems like a reasonable deal for the Mets to make too.

Ah, D*mn.  I loved Carlos in the Brews outfit....gonna miss him.    

Andy Martino of the New York Daily News is also reporting Zack Wheeler and Wilmer Flores.  That seems like it's one player short.

If this deal is true as reported then New York got over big time on the Brewers.  No way this is even close to equal value.  Hopefully there is more to the story or Melvin is a dolt.

Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: “No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.”

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 30, 2015

Go read a Mets blog.

 

Opposite opinion.

 

Eeyore's gotta Eeyore I guess.

Good.

 

Still hoping for:

 

RHP-Zack Wheeler

OF-Brandon Nimmo

1B-Dominic Smith

Gomez is having a down year but is a legitimate 5+ WAR player and figures to be that over the rest of this year plus next year.  According to fangraph's numbers, there were only 25 hitters in the majors last year with a 5.0 WAR or better.  Gomez is an elite player.  His 2014 WAR was 5.7, 10th best in the majors.  This is not a rental, he is under contract for next year at a bargain price.  If Met fans don't think he's worth Wheeler and Flores then they are morons.  Plain and simple.

I can't figure out what makes Flores an attractive player?  Fangraphs has him as a 1.0 WAR player but that's almost all based on his plus UZR/150 numbers.  But when looking at his DRS (which I consider to be the best measure of defense), he is a 0 at 2B and a -5 at shortstop.  That would grade him as a minus defender with a .281 OBP.  Sounds like frickin' Betancourt.  It's pretty obvious that Flores would play 3B for the Brewers, in 2013 he played just over 200 innings for the Mets at third and had a +13.4 UZR/150 but was a -2 DRS.

 

He has hit 10 home runs this year and definitely could be a 25+ home run guy, especially when playing half his games at Miller Park.  Typcial Melvin, a guy that can hit the long ball but can't do anything else.  Flores, Segura, Gennett and Davis all in the same lineup. 

Flores has upside, just not at shortstop.  Looks like he was rushed (Mets also did that with Gomez).  

 

I just hope Melvin is just as motivated to move everyone else now.  Another Aoki or Axford type trade would be great.  

I realize that Wheeler is out until mid 2016 but with him, Peralta, Nelson and Jungmann (and Garza because of the large contract)...it sure looks like Fiers should be dealt.  The Brewers have a whole bunch of back-end-of-the-rotation candidates to cover things until Wheeler is healthy (Cravy, Wagner, Lopez) and they don't figure to be competitive so now appears to be the time to move Fiers.

 

Maybe the same with Segura.  It's hard to see them moving forward with the OBPs of Flores, Segura and Gennett all in the same lineup.  Seems like the Brewers have played their hand, Segura is going to be moved and Arcia is next year's opening day shortstop.

Deal is dead according to Alderson.

Not a huge surprise.  The deal didn't seem right.  Way too little of a return for a 5 WAR player under contract for another season at a bargain rate.

 

Doesn't sound like a Mets/Gomez deal will be happening at all.  I still think Gomez and maybe another minor piece for Wheeler/Nimmo/Smith is a fair deal that makes sense for both sides.

That deal can't be dead. It's the type of crap Melvin likes to sell low on all stars. Greinke and Carlos Lee brought back a couple bats and balls. Wheeler out with TJS and Flores is Perez 2.

 

 

*TD correcting his posts seriously takes away like 10% of the humor in them

Flores crying in dugout?

Cue Tom hanks photo.

According to Rosenthal, Mets backed out because of issue with Gomez hip. So they are trading a guy who just had major surgery and worried about a potential hip problem. Insane.

I am all for dealing a guy like Gomez assuming they get something equal - or relatively equal- in return.  If the deal is dead that's good considering what Milwaukee was supposed to get back in return (allegedly)

Keep working the phones Doug!!

I can't imagine they can move Gomez now, what team would take him knowing that the Mets rejected his medical?  

 

Boras is flipping **** right now.  He helped get a huge client into NY only for the Mets to get cold feet.  

 

 

Looking at comments today and it sure sounds like Melvin was going to trade Gomez for Wheeler and Flores.  Attanasio should have dumped Melvin after the draft and let Montgomery run the show until the off-season.  The upcoming deadline is an important time for this rebuild and so far it's not looking very good.

 

It's hard to believe Gomez has any type of significant hip issue.  He's only missed one game this month (way back on July 5) and has slashed a respectable .237/.363/.421/.784. 

Schaeffer in CF vs Gomez in CF is probably worth moving up a couple draft slots as well.  Gomez makes this significantly more of a .500 team than Logan does.  

Winning meaningless games and pushing us further down the draft in what is supposed to be a really solid draft? Check

Your most valuable trading chip being rendered virtually untradeable due to an injury? Check.

Your Milwaukee Brewers everyone!

Gomez had MRI 3-4 weeks back for an abductor issue. Not hip. Medical report said no problem with abductor or hip #Brewers #Mets

— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) July 30, 2015

#Mets asked #Brewers during process to take Lagares rather than Flores to wash some $. Milw didn't want future dollars. Wanted Flores for 3b

— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) July 30, 2015

#Mets had talked to #Brewers about eating $ on Gomez, giving comp pick But sides ultimately agreed Flores/Wheeler for Gomez PENDING MEDICALS

— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) July 30, 2015

well, screw the Mets

IMO, Melvin has to deal Gomez now.  This does nothing to help Gomez' attitude, let alone the disruption this can create in the clubhouse.

Hmmm.  That sounds like they had the Gomez/Wheeler/Flores deal worked out and then the Mets tried to pull the bait and switch and either tried to get the Brewers to eat a bunch of money or throw in a comp pick as well.  Melvin said forget it, and the Mets made up an excuse to back out of the deal.

 

Big thumbs up to Doug Melvin if that's what happened. 

Explain to me why this would disrupt a clubhouse?

 

EDIT: The more I read about this, what a cluster by the Mets.

Well either it is tears of joy for not going to the Brewers, tears of sadness knowing that he might still, or tears of joy that he isn't going there.  Weird situation that only could involve the Crew and Mets.

Totally agree for the right return.  Like every player on this team, they should be actively listening to any and every offer to get younger cheaper players in the goal of rebuilding this franchise similarly to how Houston and the Cubs built. 

 

What attitude is that?  He's been a solid, fun, and above average player for the Brewers since joining the organization.  Seriously curious to understand what you are implying here? 

 

Again, what indication whatsoever do you have that would lead you to this conclusion?  Was it the photo of his teammates wishing him well on the plane when we was traded?  Was it the words from teammates this morning highlighting he's a great person and teammate?

 

You're manufacturing an issue that doesn't exist.  He should be traded, as should many many other players on this roster.  Not because he's an issue, he's not.  But because, they need to rebuild.

Gomez also rumored to shoot lions in order to make tacos

Sad but also hilarious...

 

I believe the Brewers side of things. And I am a Mets fan. No doubt it came down to money of which the Mets have none. That ownership group is embarrasing to any Mets fan.