**** urlatcher piece of **** of a human being and **** tillman he played for the bears.
Yeeesh! Little harsh there....no?
I'll go with Reggie over Woodson. Singlehandedly destroyed the stigma around Green Bay as the Siberia of football. Favre and Holmgren never win a ring without him. He easily could have been MVP of Superb Owl 31.
Maynard posted:I'll go with Reggie over Woodson. Singlehandedly destroyed the stigma around Green Bay as the Siberia of football. Favre and Holmgren never win a ring without him. He easily could have been MVP of Superb Owl 31.
Absolutely agree. Reggie was the linchpin of that Defense and that team. He was the best ever IMO. Obviously one of the best "if not the best" pass rushers of all time but you also couldn't run at his side either. Beyond a doubt the most valuable member of that team and I believe should be in the discussion as the best defensive player ever to play in the NFL because of his leadership and because he played both the run and the pass to perfection.
YooperPackfan posted:Peppers could've had a ring if he hadn't told Ha Ha to lay down
Yes. That play is even more disturbing than the missed onside kick. C-Dix had plenty of room to run and get closer for a FG.
GBP1 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Peppers could've had a ring if he hadn't told Ha Ha to lay down
Yes. That play is even more disturbing than the missed onside kick. C-Dix had plenty of room to run and get closer for a FG.
Yup, I completely agree and was as obsessed with that play as I was the Fourth-and-26 Eagle first down. Burnett had a seriously clear field to his left, the guy with the best shot at him was Russell Wilson, and Daniels was standing between Russell and the sideline and would've leveled had he made such a move. Sailing down the sideline for a Pick Six would've been such a sweet end, and why or why instinctively Peppers felt the need to motion to the ground WITH FIVE MINUTES LEFT puzzles me. With one or two minutes left, year, but Seattle had all their timeouts and five minutes is a lot of time.... The one time, the only time that I wish Burnett would've had a little Darren Sharper in him as Sharper would've ignored Peppers and tried to gain the glory of the Pick Six.
This thread is about Woodson.
"Spill it" - another good FA pick up
But this... Woodson may be the best football player I've ever seen.
Just sells out and says "you will not score" !!!!!!
The Reggie signing put GB back on the map, but I think C Wood actually made or had a greater impact on the team winning than 92 did.
That 1996 team statistically will go down as one of the 5 best Superbowl winning teams ever.
I'll go with Reggie also. Without Reggie's signing, there might not be a chance for the Woodson signing. I was living on the East Coast at that time and it's hard to convey how shocked people were when Reggie signed with GB. He could have gone anywhere and he went to GB. Woodson was a great player, but the culture was already established when he signed. Reggie did as much as anyone to re-establish GB as a place where you expected to win year after year after almost 25 years of mediocrity or worse.
Sounds like we're talking about different things. Sole play and impact on the field (w/GB) vs overall impact including off the field. Reggie clearly had a bigger impact with the latter. But it's an interesting debate to identify who did more for the former. I may still go with Reggie bit I'd really have to rewatch a lot of games to have an more definitive sense.
Both awesome free agent pickups. So glad that Charles is establishing himself in broadcasting where there are so many fools with questionable careers. He's always seemed to me a thoughtful, intelligent, articulate and brave persona, which is why he picked the Pack last week.
The amazing thing about Reggie White, the guy has been dead for a decade and I still have never seen a big man with the skill set that he had. There have been guys who rushed the passer as well as he did, but teams basically would only run to his side maybe a couple of times a game tops because they knew it was futile. That gave the Pack a huge advantage knowing that 1 side of the field was basically shut down by his mere presence.
JJ Watt is awesome in his own right and he's the only guy I think you sort of compare to Reggie. He's actually a bit quicker than Reggie, but when it came to raw brute strength, Reggie has the edge and that strength was the freakiest thing about Reggie. One of my favorite Reggie memories was Cris Carter getting in his way on a particular play, and Reggie tossed him like 7 yards in the air like he was brushing off a fly.
He threw Crissi Carter like a rag doll right at Warren Moons feet.
Best thing was Carter getting back up & glaring at Reggie but knowing he couldn't do jack $#!T about it.
Yup my favorite play of all time. Moon does a little "Ole" move so Carter doesn't fall on him!
What I loved about that play was Moon's eyes were down the field until he looks in shock down at his feet at the sudden appearance of Carter....
DH13 posted:Sounds like we're talking about different things. Sole play and impact on the field (w/GB) vs overall impact including off the field. Reggie clearly had a bigger impact with the latter. But it's an interesting debate to identify who did more for the former. I may still go with Reggie bit I'd really have to rewatch a lot of games to have an more definitive sense.
I think there's an interesting difference between the two. For as much as we bash Dom, when he gets a player like Woodson (or similar players when he was in previous positions) he sets up schemes to maximize their talent. He allowed Woodson to use his skills and incredible football knowledge to disrupt games. But if you'd have put Woodson on one side of the field and treated him like a shutdown corner at that stage of his career, he would have been a good, but not necessarily, HOF-level player.
Put Reggie in any scheme and he'd have been a HOF player. He was the strongest football player I've ever seen. It's one thing to throw Chris Carter about 10 yards backwards, but the hump move was an amazing thing to watch when he was throwing 320 pound lineman around.