Fennell just posted this. Look at how open the Browns receiver at the top of the screen is. Someone blew a coverage. That is a walk in TD. The Browns receiver in the middle of the field is also 2-3 steps clear (but not 10 yards in the clear like the other
Holy crap
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No way that could happen to a Dom team
Wow. I didn't notice the WR on the far sideline that far open on the reply. I did notice the WR down the middle of the field and it looked like that is where Kizer was trying to go....I don't think Kizer saw the guy down the sideline because he was trying to square up his shoulders and pass back towards the middle.
But still. Wow. Someone blew the coverage. Thanks for sharing.
I wonder if the Seattle says “We probably wouldn’t have gone to the Super Bowl if Brandon Bostick didn’t **** Up?”
Packers would probably still suck ass if they didn’t trade for Favre and draft Rodgers.
Tavis Smiley posted:Packers would probably still suck ass if they didn’t trade for Favre and draft Rodgers.
I'd still be a fan.
The question is would you still be a fan if the guy didn’t pass the hat around the stands around 1926 to keep the team in Green Bay? I doubt it. This thread would all be about Clay Matthews saving the season of the Minnesota Eskimos.
**** happens.
Tavis Smiley posted:I wonder if the Seattle says “We probably wouldn’t have gone to the Super Bowl if Brandon Bostick didn’t **** Up?”
They are probably too consumed with wondering why Darrell Bevell didn't hand the ball off to Marshawn Lynch in the Super Bowl right after that.
Please. I would never ever ever be a fan of a Minnesota team -- any Minnesota team! I'd probably be a (gulp) Bears fan if GB didn't exist. (I cringe having said that...) 
Lombardi Trophy is called Landry Trophy if Marie has more of a say in family decisions.
MM said in presser today that there were a couple of rough meetings during/after film review of Browns game.
I wonder if that included an explanation from Capers why this happened....
The incompletion that forced the punt and allowed the Packers to tie. Kizer sees the wide open receiver and it's an easy first down and Packers lose.
That's why Dom's defense struggles against the better QBs- they don't miss those mistakes and make the opponent pay for blown coverages.
I wonder if Ted could draft a "covers the holes in the middle of the field" guy. That is what seems to be missing from Dom's defenses for all these years.
El-Ka-Bong posted:I wonder if Ted could draft a "covers the holes in the middle of the field" guy. That is what seems to be missing from Dom's defenses for all these years.
I am sure TT has drafted that guy along the line but Dom f***s it up with his schemes.
Kizer's coach says he should have just taken the sack.
Rough meetings.....
This sounds like every Packer meeting every week
Sounds more like a X4 game thread.
Dom got Clayed.
If you drop a phonograph needle on Ben Fennell's nipple, it plays the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds".
michiganjoe posted:
The incompletion that forced the punt and allowed the Packers to tie. Kizer sees the wide open receiver and it's an easy first down and Packers lose.
This one is more damning for Dom than the WR running wide open. At least the first picture posted in this thread was clearly a case where a player didn't execute their assignment. This play it appears that everyone is where they were designed to be (is the 11th defender on a guy at the bottom of the screen?). You're right. If this is Brees, Stafford, Ryan, etc. the QB walks up the line, realizes they don't have enough guys to cover the 3 receivers to the top of the screen and completes a 5 yard pass against 20 yards of cushion.
I guess this shouldn't surprise us at all. This is, of course, a defensive scheme/coaching that allowed one of the 5 best WRs of all time to end up completely uncovered during overtime of sudden death playoff game for a 75 yard gain.
That was unbelievable. Still not over it.
Is that BJ Raji in the frame. Is BJ frickin Raji the closest defender to Larry Fitzgerald!
I will never forgive Raji for blowing that coverage
That may have been the play that drove BJ to retire.
El-Ka-Bong posted:I wonder if Ted could draft a "covers the holes in the middle of the field" guy. That is what seems to be missing from Dom's defenses for all these years.
A speedy, lanky ILB would do wonders for the defense. hard to run pas, hard to throw over. Martinez isn't the guy. Ryan isn't the guy. Joe Thomas certainly isn't.
It would also help if the Packers could keep a CB healthy enough to play in a game. I don't know who is playing CB anymore. Don't recognize the names or the numbers but thought I saw Willie Buchanan back there in Cleveland. He is #28.
MichiganPacker posted:michiganjoe posted:
The incompletion that forced the punt and allowed the Packers to tie. Kizer sees the wide open receiver and it's an easy first down and Packers lose.
This one is more damning for Dom than the WR running wide open. At least the first picture posted in this thread was clearly a case where a player didn't execute their assignment. This play it appears that everyone is where they were designed to be (is the 11th defender on a guy at the bottom of the screen?). You're right. If this is Brees, Stafford, Ryan, etc. the QB walks up the line, realizes they don't have enough guys to cover the 3 receivers to the top of the screen and completes a 5 yard pass against 20 yards of cushion.
This looks to me like the Packers defender just outside the left has at the 43 yd line is the one who blew the coverage. That certainly looks like single high (HHCD) man under coverage. One guy under doesn't have a man.
That ain't the coaches fault. That's whoever that guy is. Can't make it out. Jermain Whitehead maybe?
Pikes Peak posted:That was unbelievable. Still not over it.
Me neither. Never will be. Dom is our Doom.
justanotherpackerfan posted:I will never forgive Raji for blowing that coverage
It was Peppers or Burnett, probably Burnett.
It was Damarious Randall that blew the coverage on Fitz. He later accepted responsibility for it.
Of course, Peppers is the one that told Burnett to go down in Seattle, when the path was clear for a long return (if not a pick-6). However, I recall reading that the sideline instructed the defense to do that should they get their hands on the ball. Thus, Peppers was just following directions. Tough to blame him for that.
Rodgers' career is marred with consistent choke jobs by his defense in the playoffs. What's odd is that Brady hasn't had the same issue.
DH13 posted:Is that BJ Raji in the frame. Is BJ frickin Raji the closest defender to Larry Fitzgerald!
that is Peppers
edit: I stand corrected. damn failing memory. 
We can talk about players like Randall not executing, but how complicated is the scheme that it happens so often? That's on the coach.
Do your job does not apply in Green Bay.
We suck at soft zone coverages. Confusion abounds...
I don’t know whether to promote Witt for calling the players out or fire him for his coaching. But it is Doms scheme that calls it too often.
Lambeau Lobo posted:It was Damarious Randall that blew the coverage on Fitz. He later accepted responsibility for it.
Of course, Peppers is the one that told Burnett to go down in Seattle, when the path was clear for a long return (if not a pick-6). However, I recall reading that the sideline instructed the defense to do that should they get their hands on the ball. Thus, Peppers was just following directions. Tough to blame him for that.
Rodgers' career is marred with consistent choke jobs by his defense in the playoffs. What's odd is that Brady hasn't had the same issue.
I remember Randall taking responsibility, but I don't remember why he dropped coverage. In any event, it's Larry Frickin' Fitzgerald. It's like deciding not to cover Julio Jones (which, for all intents and purposes is what happened last year in the playoffs).
The maddening thing about many of the defensive collapses is that it usually is because of scheme - allowing Kaepernick to run for about 400 yards and making no adjustment at halftime to stop it and Julio Jones running wild against a guy that runs about a 4.6 40, etc. Getting beat too often because of schematic problems or coverage breakdowns is what should get a guy fired. It's probably one of the reasons they brought in Capers after Bob Sanders defense gave up 11 catches (most of which seemed to be on third downs) to Plexico Burress in that 2007 NFC Championship game without ever adjusting to the fact they were throwing back shoulder to him the whole game.
The one time the defense really did hold up well in an elimination game was the Seattle Bostick game. Seattle scored on a fake punt and Dom's defense was dominant for 3.5 quarters (until the play Burnett gave himself up on with at least 20 more yards of space ahead of him). Even the OT play they lost on had Tramon with decent coverage that was a perfect throw and catch. That is gut wrenching as a fan, but at least it took a great play to do it.
naterpack posted:It's Raji.
And Clay didn't make the tackle, but he ran him down from behind to make him cut back.
Pipkins and Donatello don’t give me any warm fuzzies for the future either.
PackerPatrick posted:We suck at soft zone coverages. Confusion abounds...
I don’t know whether to promote Witt for calling the players out or fire him for his coaching. But it is Doms scheme that calls it too often.
If Witt is the guy telling Thompson the Packers don't need players like Heyward and Hyde but they should bring House back, then Witt should be fired.
