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MichiganPacker posted: 

The one time the defense really did hold up well in an elimination game was the Seattle Bostick game. Seattle scored on a fake punt and Dom's defense was dominant for 3.5 quarters (until the play Burnett gave himself up on with at least 20 more yards of space ahead of him). Even the OT play they lost on had Tramon with decent coverage that was a perfect throw and catch. That is gut wrenching as a fan, but at least it took a great play to do it.

People only remember the .5 quarter collapse.  It wasn't just that game.  The D was playing as well and sometimes better than the O in the stretch from CM3 moving to ILB to the NFCCG.  At that point nobody had beaten SEA in their house and they were dominating them.  Still makes me sick.

DH13 posted:
MichiganPacker posted: 

The one time the defense really did hold up well in an elimination game was the Seattle Bostick game. Seattle scored on a fake punt and Dom's defense was dominant for 3.5 quarters (until the play Burnett gave himself up on with at least 20 more yards of space ahead of him). Even the OT play they lost on had Tramon with decent coverage that was a perfect throw and catch. That is gut wrenching as a fan, but at least it took a great play to do it.

People only remember the .5 quarter collapse.  It wasn't just that game.  The D was playing as well and sometimes better than the O in the stretch from CM3 moving to ILB to the NFCCG.  At that point nobody had beaten SEA in their house and they were dominating them.  Still makes me sick.

Yup. Until the last five minutes.

PackerJoe posted:
PackerPatrick posted:

We suck at soft zone coverages. Confusion abounds...

I don’t know whether to promote Witt for calling the players out or fire him for his coaching. But it is Doms scheme that calls it too often.

If Witt is the guy telling Thompson the Packers don't need players like Heyward and Hyde but they should bring House back, then Witt should be fired.

Witt has often said his job is to get the players he has ready to play. No matter who they are. I have enjoyed his demeanor during press conferences but his players have not done well on the field.

MichiganPacker posted:
Lambeau Lobo posted:

It was Damarious Randall that blew the coverage on Fitz.  He later accepted responsibility for it.  

 

I remember Randall taking responsibility, but I don't remember why he dropped coverage.

As I recall, it had to do with the depth of the WR's route.  If the WR crossed in front of Peppers (i.e., across his face), Peppers was responsible for taking him.  If he crossed deeper (i.e., behind Peppers), Randall was responsible.  

But I agree - the call clearly didn't work.  The players were not prepared to execute.  The players have some responsibility for the failure, but some of the blame must fall on the coach.

JFFC.  Just F'n Fire Capers.  Please.

AtTheMurph posted:
MichiganPacker posted:
michiganjoe posted:

The incompletion that forced the punt and allowed the Packers to tie. Kizer sees the wide open receiver and it's an easy first down and Packers lose.

This one is more damning for Dom than the WR running wide open. At least the first picture posted in this thread was clearly a case where a player didn't execute their assignment. This play it appears that everyone is where they were designed to be (is the 11th defender on a guy at the bottom of the screen?). You're right. If this is Brees, Stafford, Ryan, etc. the QB walks up the line, realizes they don't have enough guys to cover the 3 receivers to the top of the screen and completes a 5 yard pass against 20 yards of cushion.

This looks to me like the Packers defender just outside the left has at the 43 yd line is the one who blew the coverage. That certainly looks like single high (HHCD) man under coverage. One guy under doesn't have a man. 

That ain't the coaches fault. That's whoever that guy is. Can't make it out. Jermain Whitehead maybe?

It's either 2 high man under or 10 men on the field.....again.   I'd guess the guy in the middle is playing zone cuz he got the call wrong.   That's on the player if it happens once in a while or always the same guy.   Multiple players every damn week, that's coaching.

All that said, wouldn't shock me if it was some exotic bull**** and everyone is actually where they shoul be.   #Wizard

Recall the Browns coming to Lambeau several years ago (2013 I believe) and they had receivers running open all afternoon. Game wasn't close because the Packers had Aaron Rodgers and the other team had Brandon Weeden. It was just an example of AR masking the defensive deficiencies as he's done for years.  Whatever the causes, it isn't working and hasn't for years and MM needs to address the problem.

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