The university already requires them to pay their own insurance outside of football injuries so wipe that grin off your face, Fan. 
Okay, Goalline. So you're saying that's another benefit they get: paid health insurance for sport-specific (football, in this case) injuries? If so, let's total it up:
free tuition
free books
training tables for food
tutors
clothing (t-shirt, socks, shorts, etc.)
access to trainers
the latest training equipment
medical help/equipment for minor injuries
access to plush relaxation areas with video games, etc.
health insurance for sport-specific injuries (anyone know for sure?)
What did I miss? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, especially since most athletes don't go on to play pro ball yet get all of the above... And yes, I understand that some get their scholarships yanked for injury or whatever, and I think that needs to be addressed as well.
Originally Posted by Fandame:
Well, if the IRS steps into the fray and starts collecting taxes, thus lowering the paycheck of the unionized athletes, think of the sticker shock they will have when they also pay union dues on top of taxes. It's a huge chunk ($164 and change) out of my paycheck every two weeks.
I only pay the Koch Brothers $100 every two weeks and they make sure I stay rich. Come to the dark-side!
Can't. I'm a teacher and supposed to enlighten the little darlings! 
Originally Posted by Fandame:
Okay, Goalline. So you're saying that's another benefit they get: paid health insurance for sport-specific (football, in this case) injuries? If so, let's total it up:
free tuition
free books
training tables for food
What did I miss? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me...
To you, but this is not about you. This is about the free market. NFL players get paid millions of dollars AND they get free healthcare for all their health issues. Tell them to pay their own healthcare and see what they think. Broke college players get protection from the activities that generate billions for the schools, and you think the schools are doing them a favor?
Hey, a big time QB from another conference agrees with the forming a union business.....
Former Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron said he supports the Northwestern football players’ movement to form a union.
“I think it’s a good thing for college football for someone to step up and to try get more for the players,” he told For The Win. “I think eventually they need to do something like Coach Saban said (that athletes should get additional financial support beyond scholarships)… there’s so much money being made by the NCAA, by all these athletes …”
The effort, organized by former Northwestern quarterback Kain Colter and the newly formed College Athletics Players Association, was announced on Tuesday. The movement initially targets getting better medical protection for college athletes, though it leaves the door open for payments farther down the line.
“It’s almost a somewhat bad deal the players aren’t getting some of (the money) especially when the jerseys are getting sold, they’re getting used for video games,” added McCarron. “Personally I think it’s good for college athletes — hopefully down the line they’ll start getting paid somewhere.”
Well, Goalline, all I'm trying to say is that the college athletes get a pretty good deal. A free Stanford/Notre Dame/Vanderbilt/USC, etc., degree? I think there are a lot of high-achieving students out there who would be happy to get free tuition, etc. They might not be able to run a 40-yard dash in less than 10 seconds, but they might have the cure for cancer or the next great technology invention stored in their brain.
Not saying the NCAA isn't a bully, but if I were the college athletes I might not want to bite the hand that educates me.
if this union thing takes hold there's a great chance Urban Meyer ends up at the bottom of the Ohio River.
That and DeMaurice Smith will be involved.
Im on board.
Originally Posted by Fandame:
Well, Goalline, all I'm trying to say is that the college athletes get a pretty good deal. A free Stanford/Notre Dame/Vanderbilt/USC, etc., degree? I think there are a lot of high-achieving students out there who would be happy to get free tuition, etc. They might not be able to run a 40-yard dash in less than 10 seconds, but they might have the cure for cancer or the next great technology invention stored in their brain.
Not saying the NCAA isn't a bully, but if I were the college athletes I might not want to bite the hand that educates me.
Ideally, the monster that is the athletic scholarship should go bye bye, but this is just an excuse to use students to generate billions for these sports. As long as that's the case I'm in favor of student athletes pursuing all they can get. I feel the same way about the graduate students and post doc scholars who are paid so little to provide valuable research for these universities.
Ultimately though, I have no sympathy for anyone. You want what is yours mobilize and fight. It is so unfair though that so many boosters are willing to pay these guys and the NCAA won't let it happen. IMO, this should be the battleground for college athletes.
Also complete BS that in an amateur sport these players cannot transfer between schools on a whim. The coaches do it all the time.
and I predict that the Cheerleaders will be next.
First the NFL, then colleges. The NFL-CA will form in a few years. After that, the college cheerleaders....then, the Pom-Pom Squad.
It's the End of the World As We Know It....and I feel fine.
That hunk of profundity has prompted me to masturbate apolitically and intensely.
The Packers don't need cheerleaders. Why does any other NFL team?
It helps when you're attracted to women.
Originally Posted by JJSD:
That hunk of profundity has prompted me to masturbate apolitically and intensely.
I'd masturbate with that woman's picture. Wait, I already have. Thank you Fox news.
Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by JJSD:
That hunk of profundity has prompted me to masturbate apolitically and intensely.
I'd masturbate with that woman's picture. Wait, I already have. Thank you Fox news.
Kimberly Guilfoile and Maria Molina!
Yes, them too...and Greta Van Susteren. Hell, I spank my monkey to Bill O'Rielly as well. I am a dirty, dirty boy.
I guess that explains what snoopy is doing on your lap
Greta Van Susteren? Why not Judge Judy then?
Although, Greta is a Packer fan. OK, I understand now.
Any news show that provides both sides to a story will always be attacked by far left zealots. Any argument to the right of Far Left Zealots will be labeled as a "conservative" take.
We all just have to understand that there are too many low information people with too much time on their hands.
Originally Posted by Satori:
I guess that explains what snoopy is doing on your lap
Taking a sweet moment with my dear Snoopy and making it seem so bad? You are one sad man.
SDPF, Judge Judy? If his X4 takes didn't suck so bad I'd totally hit that.
hey SDPF, you better keep politics out of TimesFour....or....or....or....they will lock this thread.
Wait! What? But others are allowed to slip in their Far Left ideologies. Oh, I get it now. Use sarcasm and it'll be acceptable? Got it!
yeah - you caught me - PWD - Posting While Drinking
but I'm having fun if that counts?!
It doesn't? Heck, the kids are in bed, the wife went to bed early on Friday night...this is my porn!
SDPF= so far right he has come back around to the far left. Let them eat cake, mutha ****a. Glad you're rich!
I'm rich? LOL! you forgot the SARCASM icon thingy-dingy, tsr.
What I'm finding out in my old age is that the Far Left Zealots think anyone to the right of them is a conservative or right-winger...and...no one calls them out for it. They are just low information posters on politics and it cheapens the message of TimesFour.
I would say the same for far right reactionaries...but...I don't see the mods allowing them to insert their political beliefs into TimesFour threads.
If everyone here would leave their political tenets in their heads and not on their fingers, then we wouldn't be having these inane conversations.
come on, tsr, you can't be serious!
or take goalline's advice and dont' type drunk.
Derp, not drunk as I just got home from work. I guess Fox News does indeed constitute fair and balanced. Sorry, Reagan.
hey fellow Derpian:
I would hate to try and understand your posts then when you are drunk! 
If it wasn't for the alphabet networks media bias, we wouldn't be arguing over this. We would be debating the issues as responsible voters and Americans. Therein lies the rub.
Now, have a beer after a hard day's work. At least you are employed! Now, about your health care.....
At least....you can afford oxygen. For now.
And health care? I earned some of the best health care a working left-wing derpian can afford years ago. Thank goodness, since my terminally-ill wife would have cost me two million dollars plus that I would have never been able to pay back. I guess I should thank the Wall St. Gods?
Good one! But, at least oxygen is free...and....tax free so far anyway. So, at least I can afford it!
But, with 3 young kids at my old age, I cannot afford time.
It seems the "Mad Max" scenario is not that far off in the distant future. However, instead of fighting over fuel, it will be over oxygen.
There will always be income inequality. It's as old as the bible. However, we can always do something for Intellectual Inequality. That, will never get old.
Your other post beat my reply. My thoughts and prayers to you and your family. I am not against Health Care reform. I am for making sure all Americans are covered (with pre-existing conditions) and that it will not ruin a family financially. I think we agree on that. It is the Health Care Corporations that try to make a buck on something that should NOT be a business. I just dont' like the idea that our Government passed a bill and didn't read everything that was in it.
Tort reform and interstate commerce for Health Care providers should've been the first thing changed....but, there's too many lawyers in Congress.
Again, common sense is needed for our country to continue to be as great as it was for us as kids, as we would want it for our children.
