Cut at Packers final 53 after one pre-season game

If Sherrod still can't play it may be time to cut him. Why waste money on a player that just can't play.

Agreed with about 70% of what you say, but ...

 

RB--We are already hearing Green in on the trading block.   Good, he's wasting space.  Keep Pease and get rid of Green.

 

WR's--Not drinking the kool aid on Boykin and Ross.  What have they done this preseason and this camp?  Not much.  Granted Ross has some returning experience, though it includes fumbles at the end of last year that hurt the team.  I'm very impressed by Walker at WR.  Also impressed by Gillette at WR, and with Jordy having missed many games last year due to injury and not 100% right now, they may keep 6 WR's.  

 

OL--Keep Gerhart.  He's the only one beside EDS who has NFL playing time experience at Center.   "Party on, Garth!"

 

DL--Is Mike Neal ever going to be able to stay healthy enough to contribute?  I hope so, and I was intriguied about having him play ILB, but just sayin'.....

 

DB's--Nixon had that nice Pick-6, and may be able to make the squad.

 

ST--Tavecchio has the clear edge.  But it sounds like they have questions about his leg strength for long field goals.  At the same time, it's sounding like Detroit will be keeping David Akers and cutting Kickalicious.  It may be fitting to get a Norwegian kicker to play in Green Bay and kick on the frozen tundra!!!!

RB--We are already hearing Green in on the trading block.   Good, he's wasting space.  Keep Pease and get rid of Green.

 

Exactly

 

WR's--Not drinking the kool aid on Boykin and Ross.

 

 

Me either. I'm a little worried about our depth here if one of the big guns goes down

 

DB's--Nixon had that nice Pick-6, and may be able to make the squad

 

I really like this guy. Imagine all the Watergate references we can make during the season

 

Re: Kickers. Just get someone in here that can make a consistent 40-50 yd FG's. These kickers are driving me crazy

 

 

Because he was drafted in the first round. 

Can you kick FGs, Boris? 

Unfortunately, I can't make 40-yarders on a consistent basis. 

Boykin appears to have the #4 pretty much locked down and Ross will take over returns from Cobb. They like Walker too much and I'd be surprised if he didn't make the final cut. 

 

I'm still not convinced that ST play will be enough and Ryan Taylor and Bush could very well be gone.

Hard to predict the bottom of the roster now.  Those roster spots are based so much on special teams and I don't think any of us have focused on that aspect of the preseason yet.  

 

Young seems to have the inside track at backup QB, but not because Harrell and Coleman have been so bad. 

 

I don't think Green and Starks both come back.  The two draft picks are guaranteed spots; Kuhn stays for special teams and 3rd downs (until another back becomes as reliable there); and Harris showed too much last year to be cut.  

 

I don't see them keeping 5 TE's.  4 is the max, and only because Taylor is so good on special teams.  

 

Raji, Pickett, Jones, Neal, Daniels and Wilson seem to have the team made already.  I don't see how Jolly or Boyd make the team.  7 DL seems like way too many when considering how many 2 man lines they play.  

 

No idea what happens at LB after the top 6 (starters plus Moses and Manning).  Same with #4-5 WR.  Special teams will weigh heavy in that determination.

 

OL and DB's seem set, other than order.  Van Roten and Taylor seem to be adequate backups on the inside and the loser of Barclay/Newhouse is adequate on the outside. OL depth is a worry though.  Sherrod will be interesting.  Talent was never a question, but have to wonder what he has left after his horrific injury.  The secondary, barring injury, seems to have the best depth they've had in years.  

Tyrone Walker is going to make the team.

Short, shrimpy, fast . . .

 

Between him and Boykin if you ask me.  That little sombitch flies across the middle.  

That prediction would've been a lot more impressive a few weeks ago.

I don't understand why you put Harris on the PS with Starks and Green looking so average? He did pretty well last year with essentially the same line that Green/Starks played with. That alone, for me, guarantees him a spot. Green will be gone at the first cut down. Starks will stay until Lacy proves he can be the man.

I don't see 5 TEs. Bostick, much like Williams, doesn't have niche. He's an okay receiver and an okay blocker and is okay on STs. He, like Williams, needs to be great at one of those things to make it. I foresee both getting the axe. That 5th TE spot will be used on WR Tyrone Walker IMO.

Also I don't see keeping Palmer over Mulumba. Mulumba has shown a lot more and has stayed healthy. Palmer is headed for the PS and Mulumba will get that spot.

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I don't understand why you put Harris on the PS with Starks and Green looking so average?

If I read the OP correctly, he's putting Harris on PUP.

You are right. I stand corrected.

cut/trade Green ASAP to get the other guys more time in exhibition.

He just hasnt shown that he can be an impact RB in the NFL.

 

I also expected DJ Williams to show more than he has so far. There was some excitement when he was drafted

 

I think Harrell and Coleman are gone as well.

 

Boy, what's with all the negativity against Alex Green?

 

RoyalWulff:  "Wasting space...get rid of him"

Boris:  "Exactly"

CUPackFan:  "I don't think Green & Starks both come back"

Grave Digger: "Green will be gone at the first cut down"

WolfPack:  "Cut/trade Green ASAP.  He just hasn't shown that he can be an impact RB in the NFL."

 

Thompson drafts him in the 3rd round 2 years ago, he looks good in the pre-season, never plays from scrimmage and blows out his ACL on a kickoff.  We learned this off-season that he was never fully recovered last year, then hear from multiple coaches that in training camp he's shown the burst and speed they saw in him coming out of college.  So after one pre-season game where none of the RBs impressed he should be cut?  And what has FA rookie Peace done to warrant everyone wanting to keep him?  Maybe you guys are right.  But I'm not so sure McCarthy and Thompson aren't willing to give Green more of a chance to show why they invested such a high pick in him.

Grave Digger:  Agree on HB Harris -- absolutely see Packers keeping him.  Just wondering if he'll be healthy in time to make 53.  Until he proves to be, I have him on PUP.  On 4 or 5 TEs, you may be right.  I just think either Taylor or Bostick more valuable than WR Tyrone Walker.  Would rather keep a great ST player or a 6-3 250 lb TE that can run vs. a 5-10 WR with average speed.  On Palmer vs. Mulumba, I said I thought we keep both -- one on 53 and the other on PS.  You obviously agree.  I just guessed Palmer on 53 at this early stage, but yes, it may be Mulumba.

I guess we all feel he has hit his ceiling & we've seen the best he has.

 

Maybe we're all wrong & you're right. Personally, I don't see it. Green doesn't have that "IT" factor for me as a runner or in the pass game blocking for Rodgers.

 

If he proves me wrong, I'll be more than thrilled.

Harris will probably be on the roster and  it's more a numbers game with Green than anything. Unless they decide to not keep Kuhn there's a logjam at the position and he's likely the odd man out.

Perhaps those with a negative opinion of  Green have seen him play.....although with the blocking that GB has it is pretty tough for any RB to look good.   

 

 

 

Green seems to be "just another guy", NFL is filled with guys of equal talent. Franklin appears as good right now. Green says that he "keeps hearing" that he is on the trading block? He may be better than some teams 3rd or 4th back, but I can't see teams trading for him. 

Overall, why do I feel like this is the same mess we find ourselves in with our Oline during every training camp that then drags into the season's start? It seems like for awhile now that our O tackles are a mess to start the year and it doesn't get settled until game 5 or so. Yes, we have injuries. But by now MM and Campen know what we have. So, name your starters, get the line playing together as a unit, and quit the "we'll have to see what we got and how they graded out." Maybe they think they're keeping guys on their toes but it seems more like it keeps everyone uneasy, especially the young guys. For my money it's Bak and Barc, and the rest of the usual suspects. Get them settled in now, and get them working together as a unit.

 

With our RBs, I can understand a bit more since we have at least two rookies who are definitely in the mix. I wouldn't be surprised either way if they keep or cut Kuhn. Keep him as a security blanket and a guy who suits up every week; cut him cuz we've seen the best he's got to give. Starks could be as deep as #3, or as high as #1 depending on Lacy's hammy. Franklin seems like he has to stay on the 53 for the potential. Stash Harris on PUP to start. Green just seems like the odd guy out. Haven't heard much about the other guys, other than Pease seems to have a burst. This unit just seems to be so jumbled. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad one.

Keep Jolly 

you never know when you will need an extra dose of codeine!!

 

I can't help but wonder if TT might have his eyes on someone that might get cut from a team with more OL depth to improve RT and provide depth at Center.

one can only hope...

Well, I did post his picture long before the game.

reminds me of another 83 that played for the pack

I said I was more impressed by Walker and Gillette than Ross and Boykin after

Family Night.  Does that count?  :-)

Keep wondering... the starting offensive lineman for the 2013 season are already on the roster.  Anybody that is picked up on waivers won't add much more than what we already have anyhow.

 Johnson (D7A) and Dorsey (D7B),  since the Packers drafted them I think they will try to keep them, one might even make the 53 . It is all about potential for these two guys.

Driver was a 7th round  pick who spent his first year on the PS. 

The Packers keep Kuhn because picking up rushers is the Packers #1 requirement for backs.

Great job, as always, sschumer! I appreciate your effort and insight.

It's hard to argue with most of your picks, and most of those concern the 'fringe' players, but I'll add my thoughts, FWIW:

I just can't see Harrell being jettisoned with the time invested in him. Keeping VY instead would be a huge risk, IMO. No doubt he's more athletic, but I can't see him learning the offense well enough to make Harrell expendable.

It's possible that PS eligibility could factor into keeping Coleman, but I see him as odd-man out right now. Let's see what the next few weeks bring.

Ditto for WR's. Again, at this point, I wouldn't be afraid of keeping Walker over either of our draft choices, but opinions may change over the next few weeks.

I agree with your later comments regarding Green; I also thought he had a nice initial burst, but they only lasted a couple of yards until he met a defender or the backside of our OL. If Harris were ready, I wouldn't care if either Starks or Green got released to keep him, but the Pack may indeed utilize the PUP option.

On the OL, Sherrod and Tretter may be as likely to go on IR as they are PUP, although it may not have any affect on the roster. Incidentally, if Sherrod isn't ready, I wouldn't be surprised for an injury settlement to occur; I don't think he has much of an impact on the salary cap, but 2+ years on IR just doesn't bode well.

I think Richardson is likely done, at least with the Packers. Neck injuries are so damned scary. Again, it likely won't have any affect on the roster for the short-term, but may ultimately impact PS decisions.

Right now, I'll still go with Crosby at K. Again, the next 3 weeks can swing either way, but Crosby's experience is valuable.

Gillett, slow white guy that AR likes, may be the surprise of TC.  I suspect MM is hoping he is shifty and fast enough to be a Welker in Green and Gold.  Catching every ball gets you a job on Sunday. 

I think Harris will be healthy and ready, his ordeal was a while ago so he should be healthy for the opener. 

 

I'm just not sure about the TEs. To me it's all about justifying your spot. They kept Williams in the past because he was a draft pick and showed receiving skills in college. Haven't seen those in the NFL. Bostick definitely has physical potential, but is he a better #5 TE than Tyrone Walker is a #6 WR? I would tend to side with Walker, but honestly who knows. 

 

As far as Palmer vs. Mulumba, this is the question I asked: who lasts longer on the PS? Mulumba has the kind of raw potential that another team would covet IMO. Palmer has ability, but to me he's more of a project. I think they could stash him on the PS. 

What am I missing with this dude that have others excited?  Comparisons to Welker?  Shyah.  Am I the only one who thinks Gillet looks like some guy from the 50's?  Yes he's pasty but he has that build where is ass is wider than his shoulders and moves like I'm watching pre-glory years footage of someone not named Hornung.

 

Walker on the other hand is an intriguing riser.

 

 

Yeah I'm not seeing the Gillett excitement? He has good size, but he didn't look particularly fast and he wasn't really that consistent as a receiver either. I saw him drop his fair share of balls in practice. He made some nice catches, so I will give him credit, but I don't get what is interesting. And honestly, can we stop comparing every white receiver with Wes Welker? Gillett is not even close to Welker in any regard whatsoever. He's a big possession receiver who has no business being near the Slot. He's more like a slower Jordy Nelson with worse hands IMO. 

I think Walker is closer to Welker (than Gillett is).

I think he's closer to Antonio Chatman.

I don't recall Chatman having as good a hands as Walker seems to have.  Or getting as much separation.  Kind of why he never panned out as a receiver.

 

3...2...1.....

My concern is always o-line.  Why shouldn't it be?  I saw a stat where Rodger's was #1 in sacks and #2 in pressures.  I think for the last 3 years he is near the top.

 

What gets me is more emphasis on offensive line also reduces the likelihood Rodgers suffers injury.

 

I appreciate that the Pack has been quite unlucky regarding o-line, with the injuries.  However, even in consideration of that, I think o-line is under-prioritized by the front office.

Drafting Tretter and Bakhtiari would seem to indicate a priority, but the team's just had horrible luck with the injuries there.