Cuts I hope to see this week

Hey Royal Wulff,

I merely included guys like Elliott, Ryan, etc for reference in terms of how all the Packers players ranked in relation to the ones you had mentioned. I like that you did this and took a stab at it. After all, it is your idea for how they rank prior to cut downs, and no one really knows. Great to discuss it though, and maybe we see some early surprises added to the waiver wire. I agree PFF rankings aren't the die-all, but they do provide some kind of reference point. There are just so many variables in preseason, making them less relevant. They do point to who is making what kinds of plays. Unfortunately, competition levels are absent (against 1s, 2s, 3s...) in those statistics.

Your Perry cut is bold! You never know. If he is not in their plans, an early release so the player can catch on with another team has been done before. I'm thinking it happens on the next batch. Thornton is a vey solid pick. Dantzler, I think they keep him around for a bit.

Man, the cut downs after this will be very difficult to predict.

The only player I can see TT bringing in is James Jones if he happens to get cut. Otherwise, I'd expect him to just go with what's in camp.

Sure, some kind of reference point, just a very incomplete one. PFF claims to grade EVERY player on EVERY play. How do they do that when they can't see every player on every play?

So, what you are saying is they are lying, and I paid for their lies. Well, that's just great Hungry5... 

It ain't the first time baby
Baby it wont be the last
I'd better get the boys round
And do some drinkin fast

Cause she's gone, gone, gone
I dont know if I'm happy
I don't know if I'm sad
She's gone gone gone
I dont know if I'll cry
I dont know if I'll die laughin

 

Maybe they're sorcerers?

Wizards

It's magic!

Or leprechauns?

First wave in. Eight more to go to hit 75.

#Packers made five cuts today: ILB Tavarus Dantzler, OL Fabbians Ebbele, ILB Josh Francis, DL Lavon Hooks, OT Vince Kowalski.

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 31, 2015

Dantzler ($5,000) and Ebbele ($2,000) were the only players #Packers released who received signing bonuses.

— Weston Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) August 31, 2015

Sometimes, the #Packers cut guys on first roster reduction whom they want on the practice squad, which can be set day after the cut to 53.

— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) August 31, 2015

The #Packers are at 83 players on their roster. They need to get down to 75 by Tuesday at 3 p.m. They practice at 12:15 p.m. Tuesday.

— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) August 31, 2015

Would love to see Goalline cut.  Understand JSonline commenter mick730 is available.  Major upgrade.

The PFF ratings -- especially in practice season -- don't take into account the quality of the opposition. A hight PFF rating against pre-75 cuts cannot be compared to a low PFF rating against the projected starting 11. Add to that the vanilla playbook and those stats have to be taken with a pound of salt.  Of course, sometimes a player is worth their weight in salt.

You also have to take into account that they don't see every player and the ones they do see their grades do not have a common point of reference.

 A +13.4 is not always better than a +11.2 but perhaps a +10.3 is 98% certain to be better than a -3.4 etc. It’s just a system like any other but what we aim to do is put context on all plays. If a CB is badly beaten but the WR drops the pass the base stats would say that’s simply an incompletion against the CB but in our system it’s a negative grade.

 

Neil Hornsby. Founder - Pro Football Focus

Perhaps a +10.3 is better than a -3.4?

Yeah, that's like cutting Arod. Never going to happen.

I keep reading articles about how the players are chipped to track some of the metrics during the games now and I could have sworn I saw something about the NFL app on XBOX One having some of the data.  I looked all over the nfl.com site but didn't see it anywhere.  Has anyone come across it yet?

Agreed

Goalline can stay, but we have to sacrifice a virgin

Leave Fedya alone.

Adrian Hubbard just tweeted that he has been cut.

Released today from the Packers...All business.Ready for what ever pic.twitter.com/JxzRBopGyH

— Adrian Hubbard (@__unchained42) September 1, 2015

oooooo! I'm really surprised by that one.

Maybe I should copy the above to paste later throughout the next week or so.. 

Hubbard can play, just have a lot of solid guys at OLB. 

The cut down to 53 will bring up the post count at X4, gauranteed. 

At least Hubbard is consistent. He didn't make plays in college or the pros. 

originally posted by Diceman:

Old Mother Hubbard

went to the cupboard

to get her poor doggie

a bone

But when she bent over

Rover took over

and gave her a bone of his own 

The #Packers have released QB Matt Blanchard, according to a source.

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 1, 2015

Demovsky reporting Blanchard is cut. He ought to be able to catch on with another team. Guy played far better than I had ever expected. Maybe he makes our PS. Six more due soon.

Blanchard was a surprisingly good player. Packers have come a long way from the days of B.J. Coleman and Graham Harrell.

OHHHHH!!!

Down to 75.

Packers have placed WR Jordy Nelson on IR. waived/injured WRs Javess Blue and Jimmie Hunt.

— Weston Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) September 1, 2015

The #Packers have also released QB Matt Blanchard, WR James Butler, LB Adrian Hubbard, DB Kyle Sebetic and TE Harold Spears

— Weston Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) September 1, 2015

Now that the picture of Tranny Ted has made the interwebs, you may not have as much leverage as you think.

Blanchard kind of surprises me. I was thinking he'd get the majority of snaps Thursday following Hundley again but they must want to get Tolzien some snaps before the season starts.

Don't they just use the all-22 view from NFL.com or is that not available anymore?

All-22 is not available in the pre-season. Also, it is not available during the season until a few hours after the MNF game, yet they have grades on the Sunday games before Monday morning. Wizards I tell ya.

I'm guessing they receive the NFL's All-22 script before the game.

They just gave Tolzien a +2.5 for tomorrow's game. 

Also, there is so much going on every play that it should take hours to evaluate one player, let alone all 40 that see game action.   

Simple guesstimate at the math.  10 seconds per play times x 100 snaps = 1000 seconds.  Times 11 players is about 3 hours, then add another hour for admin work.  So you would need a staff of 32 evaluators who magically get all 22 right away, of a live feed with DVR to all 22, to accomplish what they claim to do.

I don't claim to be a scout or expert, but when I've watched the all 22 and focused on the linemen, I'm usually left scratching my head as at least a couple grades are so far off.

Plus, it's a couple of drunk Irish dudes.  

50 drunk Irish dudes in a bar?

There's like 4 levels of redundancy in that post.

I'm not picking on anybody but PFF

But that comment above made me laugh.

It was posted on August 30th, end of the preseason

 Bradford didn't make our 53, and none of the other teams wanted the "28th ranked ILB according to PFF"  ...And he's cheap and available

Assume (3) ILBs per team x 32 says he's not even in the top 100 

(According to people who do this for a living)  PFF sucks