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Originally posted by Iowacheese:
I am glad Acheman made it through the game without suffering a concussion

I don't think any of us would be surprised to find out that his sub-par work in the booth is related to his hits to the head.

Buddy Rich once said: Sometimes, less is more. NFL play-by-play and analysts should consider this axiom.

Cowboy fans think Aikman is biased against them.

i don't have a problem with aikman. buck is okay, a little annoying at times. the notion that they are biased against the packers is absurd. they frequently praise rodgers, mccarthy, the organization, etc. only a total homer would call them anti-green bay.

Every fan thinks the announcers are against them... same goes for the refs.

I'd like to see a different set of announcers out of nothing more than change. I'm tired of the same dudes every week.

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
I'm tired of the same dudes every week.

Okay I'm a freak--but a lucky freak with the day off--I just watched the game on NFL rewind and listened to it...a rarity for me when it's an Aikkman/Buck game.... listen to Aikman's commentary following the unnecessary roughness call put upon Rodgers in the first and then listen to his commentary on the unnecessary roughness call given to Tramon Williams at the end of the third---it is laughable...I am not saying that it is complete evidence of his bias against the Packers---but it is one more mark in that column.

As far as motive----Aikman played many big games against the Packers, I am sure he took more than his share of derogatory shots from Packer fans in Dallas and Green Bay --(it seems like they were always in Dallas. Did he ever play in Green bay?)....I'm sure he's taken grief from the booth as well. There are those that walk amongst us, that are less than kind to our rivals.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
I'm tired of the same dudes every week.

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Originally posted by Johnson:
most of the St. Louis Cardinal fans that I know-who think of Jack Buck as a God---hate Joe. Historically I guess it's tough sledding for the son's of Gods.

I actually grew up with the Buck family (his sister was more my age, and Joe was known by all who knew him as a pompous ass even then. His dad was one of the great voices of all time.

As far as Aikman, I personally think he's kind of an idiot and isn't very good at hiding it. I don't think he is as much anti-Packer as he (as most announcers are), pro-underdog and since the Packers are usually the favorites and have been a dominant team more or less over the last 20 years, he likes to take swipes at them to feed the story.

I think most announcers are going to bother people on this board because most of us would rather hear what the coverage was or some real insight than the blathering that is aimed at the more casual fan. I'm not trying to be elitist, just watch a game with a more casual fan and they really don't care about a lot of the intricacies.

Buck looks like Beeker from the Muppets.

I'm guessing Pakrz is into that though

My favorite color commentator will always be Alex Karras when he was on Monday Night Football. For exciting game calling Pat Summerall in the 70's was awesome.

Starr ... Dowler ... Touchdown.

Best color comment ever?

When Monday Night Football cut to a shot of a bored/pissed off fan in the stands while his team was losing, he flipped the bird to the camera.

Don Meredith didn't miss a beat and said "He's just saying the Oilers are Number 1!"

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I've said this many times = the best TV gadgetry that could be invented is a way to mute the announcers while still getting the crowd noise---

Wait. Are you saying such a thing exists? or you would like it to exist? Because that would be awesome. In fact, I recall reading an article years ago about one of the networks planning to experiment with providing no commentary and just going with stadium and on-field sound, depending on the camera. And they were going to include coach to player helmet communication similar to what you might see on a nascar broadcast. I think it will happen some day as an "enhanced option" via sunday ticket.

I think NBC actually did that around 1978-1979. Jets game played at Shea Stadium. No announcers. Just crowd and the PA announcer.

It didn't take. Then again Gruden and the like weren't around yet either.

There would be no comparison there. This would be very different today. They used maybe 2 camera angles back then? and their mics weren't so great either. Think of all the different cameras in today's game, like the variety you get watching an NFL Replay on NFLN, plus the sound for those cameras and on top of that getting the helmet communications.

Sounds as close as anyone can get to actually being on the field...from the comfort of your own home.

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Originally posted by TimthePackerFan:
My favorite color commentator will always be Alex Karras when he was on Monday Night Football. For exciting game calling Pat Summerall in the 70's was awesome.

The ultimate in less is more. I often wondered if he had any emotions at all. He could be a bit colorless, but loved that he didn't get in the way of the game.

Meredith was one of the funniest guys to call games. His singing "The party's over" got a little old at times, but you could tell he had a good time at games -- and when he sang that, the party was just beginning.

Aikman is almost reaching Cosell status for pomposity.

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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
I think NBC actually did that around 1978-1979. Jets game played at Shea Stadium. No announcers. Just crowd and the PA announcer.

It didn't take. Then again Gruden and the like weren't around yet either.

I don't recall which game it was, but I do recall watching a chunk of that game and it was weird. Back then the TVs were pretty small and the sound tinny. With the huge screens today and better sound, I'd like to see it back for a game or two!

We should try that for a game thread some week.

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Originally posted by RatPack:
Watched a great game without listening to one word from the dumdums.

Me too. Listened to Larry and Wayne thanks to a gizmo my son got me. Matched the radio to the TV. But then, I live in God's country. Haven't listened to a TV announcer for Badger/Packer games in a couple years and will never go back.

NFL Audio pass. 20 Bucks for the entire season. Listen to every radio broadcast on your computer.

The only time I get truly annoyed with the announcers is when they interfere with the game, like when they are too busy talking about themselves or doing a sideline report to show an important replay.

Announcers are like refs : it should never be about them, not even a little bit.

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Originally posted by Fandame:

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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
I think NBC actually did that around 1978-1979. Jets game played at Shea Stadium. No announcers. Just crowd and the PA announcer.

It didn't take. Then again Gruden and the like weren't around yet either.

I don't recall which game it was, but I do recall watching a chunk of that game and it was weird. Back then the TVs were pretty small and the sound tinny. With the huge screens today and better sound, I'd like to see it back for a game or two!

After NBC announced this 'experiment', I recall most fans anticipating sounds from the field level; pads cracking, grunts and groans, and maybe some sideline yelling.
Instead, it was like being seated in a closed booth in the press box. It turned out be exactly like a regular broadcast, excepting play-by-play and commentary. A huge disappointment, IOW.

I remember a Packers-Steelers game around 1960 or 1961 when the sideline camera went down (I think they only had one in those days) and at least half the game was televised from the end zone.

It was actually quite interesting because you could see the spacing between linemen and very often the receiver, his cut and the passer in the same shot.

I remember the no-announcer game but not a lot about it.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
Buddy Rich once said: Sometimes, less is more. NFL play-by-play and analysts should consider this axiom.

Like Ray Scott.

hof1991 - What is the name of the gizmo that you are using to sync Audio Pass and the TV feeds? I sure could use that.

I think it's pretty whiny when you have a three page thread about the announcers. I watch the game, pretty much ignore the announcers, whoever it is

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Originally posted by ChilliJon:
I think NBC actually did that around 1978-1979. Jets game played at Shea Stadium. No announcers. Just crowd and the PA announcer.

December 20,1980

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
Best color comment ever?

When Monday Night Football cut to a shot of a bored/pissed off fan in the stands while his team was losing, he flipped the bird to the camera.

Don Meredith didn't miss a beat and said "He's just saying the Oilers are Number 1!"

I'll never forget that. That really was great. Dandy Don, Gifford and Cossell were a combo that will be hard to beat, even though Howard could be annoying as hell; that was part of the fun listening to Don and Frank try to pop Howard's grandiose balloons.

back in teh early 80s I got a satellite dish and during that time you could hear the banter going on in the booth between the announcers. Meredith and Cosell used to get into it. that was usually more entertaining than the game. Especially if and wehn the packers were on during those years.

Since the general consensus nowadays is that the announcers are bad, I think they should completely go the other way.....Let Brent and Emmit Smith do the games. Brent could ask and answer his own questions for three hours, and Emmit could occasionally pipe in to butcher the English language in new and exciting ways.

It would be high comedy.