At least the Bucks got a title recently. A hell of lot more than any of the Wisconsin teams have done over the last decade plus.
Unless you are counting UW women’s hockey.
@Tschmack posted:At least the Bucks got a title recently. A hell of lot more than any of the Wisconsin teams have done over the last decade plus.
Unless you are counting UW women’s hockey.
Volley ball.
@ammo posted:After reading the Raptor thread and then going back and reading this thread is quite entertaining. Never have so many been rong about so much.
They made this trade because they (and we) were sick of losing playoff games because the offense disappeared. They'd get to the 4th quarter of key playoff games with a lead and then when it got to crunch time and teams built a wall against Giannis and made anyone but Middleton beat them from outside, we'd watch Bledsoe or Holiday clank shots (even in 2021 when they won the title Holiday shot very poorly - it was just that Middleton morphed into Kevin Durant for that playoff run). 2019 against the Raptors, 2022 Celtics (without Middleton), 2023 Heat all had multiple types of those games.
I think many of us (me included) were thinking when they get back to that situation now they'll just go Dame Time.
The problem that I overlooked is that Dame deficiencies may cause you never to get to key playoff games with a lead in the 4th quarter. I really thought that Dame would be motivated by finally having a chance to win and really flourish. Instead, he seems like a slightly saner version of Kyrie Irving (Celtics-Nets-Mavs).
Both Kyrie and Dame are two of the top 10 offensive guards I've ever seen. Deep range, great ball handlers, creative at the rim. They are so good, deep down if you are a fan of any team they are on, you still think that you have a chance to beat anyone, and you probably do because either one can go for 50 against anyone. But they just aren't willing to do the other stuff to allow that to happen consistently.
I could see the Mavs or Bucks winning a title with Dame or Kyrie going supernova in the playoffs or losing in the first round when they appear disinterested and half-assing the games.
I forgot about all the top tier level success other than the Bucks reigning down on our beloved sports teams in this state. Forgive me for bringing up college sports.
I probably could have skipped mentioning them anyway because titles aren’t synonymous with pretty much anything at Wisconsin and the glory days of Marquette are well behind them as well. The Bucks are and have been the only realistic contender for a decade now.
But I’m sure you already knew that you silly little bumpkin ammo!
Your short memory must be because of all the booze you consume. Badgers went to back to back Final Fours in 2014 and 2015. Played for the Championship in 2015 and would have won if the refs hadn't fucked them over. So take your alcohol infused takes and stick them where the sun don't shine. And while you are at it put your head up there too.
Lotta vitriol for a team that's still in the playoffs.
Bow out meekly in round 1?? Or....make a run??
Badgers under Ryan were close yes a decade ago. Really liked those teams. Then he “retired” and his replacement took them back to the Stone Age. They are a slightly better than average mid major problem ammo, no?
Since then, the Bucks have been good to really good. Packers look like they are headed back to relevance and Marquette has been OK but my original point stands. The best sports team in this state the last decade has been the Bucks. Even if you care not to watch them but play pretend fanboy and lecture everyone else.
Yes this season has been frustrating as hell but the way it’s gone either they flame out in round 1 or will find a way to break through and make a run.
What you don't seem to get is there are 29 other NBA teams. There are 341 NCAA Div. 1 teams. Sure most of those Div. 1 teams have no chance at a Championship. But look at N C State this year and teams like FAU and St. Mary's in years past. In the NBA there are only about 6 teams in any given year that have a chance. Whose odds are better?
NBA teams have virtually unlimited $$$$ to spend on a team. NCAA is limited to the number of scholarships they can give out.
NBA can lock up players for years with long term contracts. With the one and done guys and now the transfer portal it is very tough to build a program. Throw in NIL and it gets even tougher. Just ask John Calipari.
So bag on the Badgers all you want moron, but it is easy to see who has the better odds to win a Championship. And the Bucks ain't doing it this year and with the way they are set up in future drafts they ain't winning one for 10 years or more. And I thank God I have nothing invested in them emotionally, merchandise wise or or anything else.
You obviously don’t understand anything about the NBA ammo. Unlimited money to spend? Maybe you’ve heard of something called the salary cap and luxury tax. This isn’t MLB. If it was the Lakers or Knicks would have a 500M payroll and all the star players. As for “locking up players” once again you don’t get it. Most NBA contracts to star players are actually shorter in duration with opt outs and player options. This isn’t Magic Johnson from 40 years ago signing a lifetime contract.
As for college basketball, it’s about as much of a pay to play system you can get. NIL and the portal have completely changed the rules. If you want to build a winner I’d argue it’s never been easier if you have the ability to recruit and pay players. The issue for a team like Wisconsin is they aren’t good in either aspect.
Not sure the point on John Calipari. He’s got a ring. He’s lead 3 different teams to 6 Final Fours and a dozen times his teams racked up 30 or more wins. His problem is he’s not a good coach. He’s a great recruiter which in college basketball is 75% of the battle.
Blah blah blah. I get it now. When the Bucks get blown out Giannis can use the transfer portal to get to a winning team. 
@Tschmack posted:You obviously don’t understand anything about the NBA ammo. Unlimited money to spend? Maybe you’ve heard of something called the salary cap and luxury tax. This isn’t MLB. If it was the Lakers or Knicks would have a 500M payroll and all the star players. As for “locking up players” once again you don’t get it. Most NBA contracts to star players are actually shorter in duration with opt outs and player options. This isn’t Magic Johnson from 40 years ago signing a lifetime contract.
As for college basketball, it’s about as much of a pay to play system you can get. NIL and the portal have completely changed the rules. If you want to build a winner I’d argue it’s never been easier if you have the ability to recruit and pay players. The issue for a team like Wisconsin is they aren’t good in either aspect.
Not sure the point on John Calipari. He’s got a ring. He’s lead 3 different teams to 6 Final Fours and a dozen times his teams racked up 30 or more wins. His problem is he’s not a good coach. He’s a great recruiter which in college basketball is 75% of the battle.
Calipari is a great recruiter of 18 year old high school 5-stars. The problem is that the college game is at least partially driven by who gets the best guys that develop at the smaller schools out of the transfer portal. No established player that is 21-22 years old is going to want to transfer to Kentucky to sit behind some 18 year old kids who haven't played a minute of college basketball. Calipari has failed to adjust. His one and one guys over the last decade would probably win a title if you put them on the same team in the NBA, but they haven't done crap at Kentucky since AD was there despite having Gilgeous-Alexander, Adebayo, Maxey, Fox, Herro, Quickley, Keldon Johnson, KAT, Julius Randle, Jamal Murray, and Booker (and a dozen other NBA bench players) in that time frame.
It's because he's playing 18 year olds vs. 22 year olds on other teams now. Even when the 18 year olds are more athletic, the extra experience makes a big difference.