Dom Capers

Never consider Schwartz or anyone from the Jeff Fisher tree. They're all a-holes.

They've used Mike Daniels there with some success.

 

Here, last season:

 

 

Here, this season:

 

 

No, this isn't photoshopped. From the season-opener.

Nah, I think he runs to get to the two minute warning, runs after two minute warning to use up their last tineout, and then with about 1:55 or so, runs again and runs clock to 1 second before calling timeout.  So, about 1:00-1:10 on the clock when punt goes off assuming no first down and the third down run play takes about 5 seconds.

Anyone get fired yet?

It was strange, when we were trying to run the clock down, it seemed the overriding assumption was that Seattle would score. Despite 56 minutes of Seattle offensive incompetence, once it was crunch time it seemed inevitable they would score when they got the ball. Where did that feeling come from?

I didn't see any interviews scheduled for Packer assistants now that the season is over. Thought Moss and Slocum would have a couple things lined up by today. Surprising. 

Working on it. Totally half-assing my job this week.

100% Agree ^

 

I don't blame MB for laying down. You want to put the ball in the players hands that are paid to handle the ball. Remember what happened last week against Dallas?

 

On the fence about Dom. So you want him gone, who do you replace him with? Shwartz is NOT Packer People. 

 

As Free Safety pointed out, need to find another play. There's been a lot of points left on the table in the red zone.

 

Red zone efficiency (TD only)

2014 - 57.14%

2013 - 50.72%

2012 - 68.52%

2011 - 65.22%

2010 - 62.69%

 

Sorry boss, no awards for you. There were blind kids in Bangladesh who have never seen an NFL game doing the same thing. Yelling about a fake. The only ones surprised by the fake were Slow Cum and his players.

I think the Play Action repertoire was a little limited due to Rodger's calf. There was a time, before the game, where I thought maybe the Packers/Rodgers were playing up the calf injury, but after seeing him hobble for a first down in the 2nd half it was obvious there's a significant injury. Not only does that limit what you can do on short yardage, but it's obvious to the D what you aren't going to do. To me you only have 4 options with a gimpy QB: outside run (toss, off tackle, outside zone), inside run (FB dive, HB dive, inside zone, QB sneak), quick pass (bubble screen, fade), or pass/run from the shotgun/pistol. With Seattle's speed and Lacy's speed limitations (any of RBs really) it's hard to justify an outside run, a bubble screen is risky with their aggressive DBs (see Kam Chancellor vs. Carolina) and their DBs are tall so who is really going to get the height advantage for a fade? QB sneak is obviously out and due to the short yardage and the way their D penetrates quickly, running an inside zone, trap, or counter is risky. So really, based on your size/power strengths and their small/speed weaknesses, you're limited to a inside "dive" play to either the HB or FB...the formations are really all that can vary. Maybe you can think about a Jet Sweep to Cobb out of the shotgun or even under center, but again with their team speed and aggressiveness that is no sure thing. Seattle had to know the same things about the limitations at the goalline. All your hoping for is that your OL gets enough of a push and/or their D guesses wrong and fills the wrong hole. None of that happened.

 

Hell I might have thought about taking a 5 yard delay of game and give Rodgers some breathing room for a slant or underneath route. 

Put me in the blame special teams camp.

 

The fake FG and the onside kick debacle is 14 points.   If those don't happen we are talking about how we dominated Seattle and are 5 point favs in the SuperBowl.

Even if Schwartz isn't the guy, I still feel the Packers need new blood, a different perspective on defense.  As currently put together the Packers win if Rodgers whips out a 110+ QBR, otherwise it is dicey.  Fortunately for us AR often has that 110+ QBR, but not always.  And as 2-4 in the playoffs over the past 4 years tells us, the sub-110 QBRs are more likely to happen vs playoff teams.

And I am not blaming only the defense for the loss Sunday.  My criticisms of Capers go back beyond the last game, that phase has been inadequate (from a SB contender's point of view) for years now.

 

Heck, the biggest factor in the loss was Rodgers.  His play was terrible.  I know he was hurt, but the 56 or so QBR speaks for itself.  And he, or McCarthy, or both, were afraid to use him down the stretch so they, like us, knew he wasn't playing well.  And of course STs shares a lot of the blame too.  It was an equal opportunity melt down.

Capers done?

You got me excited for a second.

Another whining kook. Sorry I spent the click.

About the writer from Bori's link.

 

Joe Redemann

Joe has nearly 15 years of fantasy football and baseball experience under his belt. His fondest memory in that time is co-managing his first fantasy baseball teams with his mother (who he still believes would have managed the Brewers better than Phil Garner). Joe is a writer for many media: theatre, short films, advertising, fantasy sports, and even snarky tweets. A recent graduate of the University of Minnesota with a degree in Theatre Arts Education, he also teaches, exploring the joys and intellectual liberation of storytelling and acting with his students.

 

What is it about guys named Joe who think a little time in fantasy land, drafting with a dart board, or spending countless evenings in mom's basement make them some kind of expert?

 

 

I'm adding 'snarky tweeter' to my resume.

That's redundant.

 

Really? Really.

 

I've been on x4 since this artiste was in middle school. **** him.

He liberates intellect?  Where does it go?

Capers D in GB

 

Year - Run D - PPG

2009 -  1st  -  7th

2010 - 18th -  2nd

2011 - 14th - 19th

2012 - 17th - 11th

2013 - 25th - 24th

2014 - 23rd - 13th

 

Regular season last year: first 8 games the Packers run D allowed 153 ypg; last 8 games they allowed 86 ypg. Why the improvement? 2014 bye week change ?

 

So, why wasn't it as effective on Sunday? Missing Guion? From the post bye week...

Guion, Daniels and also Josh Boyd tied up blockers to help keep Matthews free. 

Maybe it was the un-scouted looks on Sunday from the new staff? From 2nd game in 2014...

The Bears had so much success running against the Packers in the first meeting that they didn't change much the second time around. They ran the same run scheme with their workhorse Matt Forte figuring they could exploit the same weaknesses.

 

But on his first four rushes he gained six yards and by the time he got his next carry, the Bears were down 28-0.

 

I fully expect SEA to try to pound it with Lynch and some throws to Graham. Contain that and with a mobile AR the Packers should win.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just for grins, here's a list of the defensive players Ted has drafted :

 

2005

• 2a.  NICK COLLINS, S/CB, Bethune-Cookman, 51
• 4a.  MARVIEL UNDERWOOD, S, San Diego State, 115
• 4b.  BRADY POPPINGA, LB, Brigham Young, 125
• 5.  (to Kansas City Chiefs for R-Kal Truluck), 152
• 5b.  MIKE HAWKINS, CB, Oklahoma, 167
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 6a.  MICHAEL MONTGOMERY, DE, Texas A&M, 180
  (from Oakland Raiders for Marques Anderson)
• 6.  (to Kansas City Chiefs for R-Kal Truluck), 199
• 7a.  KURT CAMPBELL, LB, Albany, 245
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)

2006

• 1.  A.J. HAWK, LB, Ohio State, 5
• 3a.  ABDUL HODGE, LB, Iowa, 67
• 4b.  WILL BLACKMON, CB, Boston College, 115
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 6a.  JOHNNY JOLLY, DT, Texas A&M, 183
  (from St. Louis Rams in draft-day trade)
• 6b.  TYRONE CULVER, S, Fresno State, 185
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 7.  DAVE TOLLEFSON, DE, Northwest Missouri State, 253
  (free agency compensatory pick)

2007

• 1.  JUSTIN HARRELL, DT, Tennessee, 16
• 3b.  AARON ROUSE, SS, Virginia Tech, 89
  (from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)
• 6b.  DESMOND BISHOP, LB, California, 192
  (from Pittsburgh Steelers in draft-day trade)

2008

• 2c.  PAT LEE, CB, Auburn, 60
• 4a.  JEREMY THOMPSON, DE, Wake Forest, 102
  (from N.Y. Jets in draft-day trade)

2009

• 1a.  B.J. RAJI, NT, Boston College, 9
• 1b.  CLAY MATTHEWS, LB, Southern California, 26
  (from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 6a.  JARIUS WYNN, DE, Georgia, 182
  (from New Orleans Saints in 2008 draft-day trade)
• 6b.  BRANDON UNDERWOOD, CB, Cincinnati, 187
• 7.  BRAD JONES, LB, Colorado, 218

2010

 

• 2.  MIKE NEAL, DE, Purdue, 56
• 3.  MORGAN BURNETT, S, Georgia Tech, 71
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 7.  C.J. WILSON, DE, East Carolina, 230

2011

 

• 4.  DAVON HOUSE, CB, New Mexico State, 131
  (free agency compensatory pick)
• 6b.  D.J. SMITH, LB, Appalachian State, 186
  (from Denver Broncos in draft-day trade)
• 6c.  RICKY ELMORE, LB, Arizona, 197
• 7b.  LAWRENCE GUY, DE, Arizona State, 233

2012

• 1.  NICK PERRY, LB, Southern California, 28
• 2a.  JEREL WORTHY, DE, Michigan State, 51
  (from Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade)
• 2.  (to Philadelphia Eagles in draft-day trade), 59
• 2b.  CASEY HAYWARD, CB, Vanderbilt, 62
  (from New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
• 4a.  MIKE DANIELS, DT, Iowa, 132
  (free agency compensatory pick)
• 4b.  JERRON McMILLIAN, S, Maine, 133
  (free agency compensatory pick)
• 5.  TERRELL MANNING, LB, North Carolina State, 163
  (originally sent to New England Patriots in draft-day trade)
  (reacquired through New England in draft-day trade)

2013

 

• 1. DATONE JONES, DE, UCLA, 26
• 5a. MICAH HYDE, CB, Iowa, 159
• 5b. JOSH BOYD, DE, Mississippi State, 167
  (free agency compensatory pick)
• 6. NATE PALMER, LB, Illinois State, 193
• 7c. SAM BARRINGTON, LB, South Florida, 232

2014

• 1. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama, 21
• 4. Carl Bradford, LB, Arizona State, 121
• 6. Demetri Goodson, CB, Baylor, 197

2015 add the "R" draft :

• 1. Damarius Randall , CB , Arizona State, 30
• 2. Quinten Rollins , CB,  Miami (Ohio), 62
• 4. Jake Ryan , LB, Michigan , 129
• 6. Christian Ringo, DE, Louisiana -Laf , 210

 

The "draft and develop" strategy is working much better on offense. Not sure if it's  Teds ability to scout/draft absolute studs on offense,  McCarthy being an offensive coach (plus the league has placed a premium on point scoring and making it easier on the offense) or that Capers hasn't done much with the "studs" you see listed above.

 

As they say, it all starts up front. Hard pressed to put a stellar defensive line together with what's been drafted.   

How many 1st round picks on the Oline again?

 

Capers doesn't have excuses anymore (shouldn't have had them the last couple years)

Our development of DBs has been stellar. Joe Whitt is a stud. Darren Perry does a nice job with the Safeties. Outside of that, things are questionable, by position. Some hits and a bunch of misses, even at CB/S...

 

Datone Jones making a statement here v. SEA and through the rest of this season would help matters immensely.

 

I see 17 hits, and 30 misses. Jury still out on a handful to see what we really have to shift some of those numbers. 

 

 

 

 

 

These two haven't done much of anything with an awful lot of high draft picks. Wouldn't bust my heart up much to see both of them GTF out of GB. 

I think our OL talent (at least the starting 5) is among the top in the league. But having a Hall of Fame QB masks a lot of things. James Jones can't make the roster of two non-playoff teams but looks like an All-Pro in Chicago. David Baktiari is at best an average LT, but having Rodgers behind him makes him look better

 

It's frustrating to watch Capers' defenses now, but they looked pretty good in 2010 when he had 3 guys playing at a Pro Bowl level in the secondary (Woodson, Collins, and Williams); a HOF level LB (CM3), and two DL in their prime (Jenkins and Raji). Now he's got two Pro Bowl level guys (Peppers and CM3) and a bunch of average guys. Capers got two expansion franchises to respectability quickly and has been hired over and over again by top football guys as a coordinator or special assistant (Cowher, Belichick, TT, Coughlin, Nick Saban). Those guys aren't idiots. You have to have the raw material to develop.

 

We also remember how great Fritz Shurmur was, but he was winning with one of the best safeties of all time and the best DE of all time to go along with three other guys on the DL that were Pro Bowl level (Sean Jones, Gilbert, and S. Dotson). Probably one of the best DLs the Packers have ever had and not a single player was drafted by the Packers. What would the defense look like now without Peppers?

ChiliJon and MichiganPacker, I've felt the same way for a while. I question Trgo and Moss quite a lot. I also question our ability to add players who are already accomplished. Peppers was our first significant defensive signing since 2008 (Woodson). Guion could turn into something special. Have to wait and see, but that was a very low level signing.

 

Holding to strict D&D means we have to suffer some growing pains, with talent from near the bottom of each round. Many of those take a solid 2-4 years to develop.

 

I'm holding out hope for Datone Jones, losing hope for Perry. Can't suffer whiffs, and Worthy and Perry are about as big as it gets. In defense of Ted, there were not a lot of good DL in 2012, when we needed them. Mike Daniels was the best DL taken after Jerel Worthy, 2 rounds later.

 

I believe Capers is pretty safe, but he has got to get more from his DL and LBs. Somehow. The Jerry Montgomery add to McCarthy's staff may help.

Capers has exhibited much the same pattern where ever he has been, other than at Pittsburgh. His defenses typically peak within the first couple of years, fall in rankings & never get back to the level they were at early in his tenure. m Makes me question his ability to motivate guys over the longterm. I always hear about his innovations, answers players questions on why they do what they do with stats, etc. but I never hear anything about his ability to motivate. 

Capers can clearly do well if he inherits talant, be nice if he could develop a little more on the side.  

 

Really, I want Capers to succeed.  I just think that if he is so good that he deserves all these excuses for mediocre performance, then at some point we should see some dividends.  

Charles Woodson won DPOY in GB

The Green Bay Packers won a Super Bowl starting (2) undrafted players at DB

 

What dividends did you have in mind you ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch ?

Another damn Super Bowl 

 

 

yeah, that would be pretty cool

Totally agree with that Mel-Ka-Bong.

 

I know Ted likes to stick to his philosophies, but whiffs like we've had on our DL, at LB, at S can really kill chances. Took 3+ years just to get Ha Ha after Collins went down.

 

Not to mention, we have a DC who doesn't like to play rookies. Has to be a steady stream of great talent to make that work, piling them in year after year. Hitting on just over 30% of your defensive picks is not going to help. Ted does seem to have gotten better here though over the past 3 years.

 

Also, I kind of get where you are coming from too in motivation. I'd like to see better play, more inspired play on D. We have LBs getting their shoulders turned at the line. A bunch of bad fundamentals.Tackling issues. And, somehow, we are always having to fix that...

 

We are going to be fine. Need some games to get everything square on D. I believe we will. The CBA may have more to do with this yearly issue than Dom.

Another dividend would be to have defenses/calls that don't allow 3rd down conversions more often than not. Especially those pesky 3rd and 17 and similar situations.

 

It stands to reason the less plays the defense has, the less wear-and-tear on their bodies. Don't want them beat all to hell by the end of the regular season.

Timmy! That's why I want more running plays. Longer drives that chew up clock. Heard all the short pass stuff. I know. But when they don't connect, they stop the clock. I want to keep our D off the field as much as possible.

So you want the offense to slow down and not score so the defense doesn't have to play? I prefer they score at least 30 points a game.

I just want more rushing. Do you not get how that works?

 

We will score more. Our defense will have more energy... make more game changing plays, all the while letting our OL tee off on the opposing DL, wearing them out, protecting Aaron a bit more, opening up one hell of a lot of play action. Long, sustained drives that chew up clock and limit the opposition's scoring opportunities.

 

Pound the F'in' Rock braugh.

Capers isn't going anywhere. He survived the atrocious 2011 year where a team with one of the best offenses in league history didn't win a playoff game. He survived the 579 yard playoff game in 2012 where the great Colin Kaepernick crushed the Packers (it's not Capers fault, the pistol was an "unscouted look"). The 2013 and 2014 seasons also came to ends when the defense couldn't make one final stop. I like MM a lot and think he's a good coach and a good man. But loyalty to his assistants, especially the DC and the ST coaches, may prove to be his undoing.

 

And no, slowing down the offense isn't the key. Having a defense get off the field is the key. What the Bears did on Sunday is blueprint every team will try to follow...every 7-8 minute drive an opponent churns out by running at will against us keeps the best player in the game on the bench. What did A-Rod have, 7 total possessions in that game? 4 TDs, a FG, and two punts...the lack of possessions was enough to fool Joe Buck into thinking Fangio has A-Rods number even though A-Rod posted a 140+ QB rating for the game..

Let me get this straight. It is the perfect blueprint for other teams to beat us, but we can't employ that?

 

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