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Jason Wilde has a number of tweets today implying that DD has bashing Rodgers in a similar vein as Jennings. Anyone heard what DD said?

 

Jason Wilde@jasonjwilde<small class="time">1m</small>

I wasn't able to watch during . RT : Driver said basically the same thing on so he had his talking points.

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Essentially, this is the comment everyone is trying to analyze:

 

Said Driver: “We’ve always said that the quarterback is the one that needs to take the pressure off everyone else. If a guy runs the wrong route, it’s easy for the quarterback to say, ‘Hey, I told him to run that route’ than for the guy to be like, ‘Well, I ran the wrong route.’ Sometimes you ask Aaron to take the pressure off the guys so we won’t look bad, but he didn’t want to do that. He felt like if you did something bad, you do it. But I think that’s the difference. You want that leadership, and I think sometimes you may not feel like you got it. You have to earn that respect at the end of the day, and I think that’s what Greg was probably referring to.”

 

There was a follow up tweet that pretty much nailed it IMO:

 

"So on 1 hand, 80 says 12 needs 2 be accountable, on other hand, 80 wants 12 2 take blame for WRs running wrong routes. Got it."

 

Jason Wilde     @jasonjwilde         

RT : wants to be remembered like Starr. I've talked to approx. 100 men that played w/Starr. Never one bad word.

 

Sorry Rob. Different era. Different media. Different everything. Let's talk to former teammates about AR in 30 years then circle back to this point.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like Rodgers holds guys accountable and they don't like it. I don't remember Rodgers visibly showing guys up during a game. Really, Rodgers is no worse than Brady or Manning. 

 

There might be some jealousy going on here. Jennings and Driver may believe they made Rodgers look good and Rodgers ends up with the mega contract.

Move on, nothing to see here.  DD is saying what should be said.  AR is holding WR's accountable, and hopefully, WR's and MM are holding AR accountable.  DD and Gerg might not see that part of the equation.  The fact is that the TOG threw all sorts of garbage to WR's and the WR's were probably never held accountable.  Now, with AR and MM things change.  

 

I don't think DD has a problem with AR, he's just trying to explain what Gerg was talking about.  

This is beautiful.  Keep pissing off Rodgers. 

Anyone have the phone numbers for Ruvell Martin or Chastin West?  I'd like for them to poop on Rodgers as well.

50 TD's and 3 INT's on the way this year.

Did it ever dawn on either Gerg or Driver that perhaps the reason Favre was more willing to take the blame for INT's and bad throws is because he threw a hell of a lot more of them then Rodgers ever has?

 

Rodgers TD to INT ratio is 1.7%. Lowest ever in the NFL.

 

Ya, no kidding. The guy who almost throws none vs the guy who threw more INT's then anyone ever in football. Of course Favre was willing to take more blame. He had far more blame to spread around.

What I would like to see is if a WR runs the wrong route, they step up and admit it. I don't think the QB should have to cover for them. The head coach is the "protector" who should spin things, if needed.  The QB doesn't have to say "Gerg ran the wrong route AGAIN" to the media, but the QB should say it to the WR and/or coach. 

 

What I don't get is the emergence of the diva WR. These guys are now the kings of the team? Ask Larry Fitzgerald what it's like playing with guys who can't get you the ball. Without a good QB, WRs are "just guys."

I remember bert giving Billy Schroeder a lot of grief on the field for not running the right route.

nothing more to see here.  stupid discussion to begin with.

I'll take AR as my QB every day of the week.

Originally Posted by packerboi:

Did it ever dawn on either Gerg or Driver that perhaps the reason Favre was more willing to take the blame for INT's and bad throws is because he threw a hell of a lot more of them then Rodgers ever has?

 

Rodgers TD to INT ratio is 1.7%. Lowest ever in the NFL.

 

Ya, no kidding. The guy who almost throws none vs the guy who threw more INT's then anyone ever in football. Of course Favre was willing to take more blame. He had far more blame to spread around.

Come on now.  How many times did Bert throw a WR under the bus for running the wrong route?  Plenty of times, especially Shroeder. 

I don't see anywhere DD threw Rodgers under a bus.  All I heard was basically "Rodgers expects his WR's to be accountable, and some players (Jennings) don't like that".

 

If anything he threw Jennings under a bus for not wanting to own his own mistakes.

He seemed to be saying that AR should be taking more of the blame for the mistakes that the WRs make. The whole thing  struck me as a bit of an incoherent mess from DD that didn't make a lot of sense. 

Listening to the interview. How does DD make a comment like that and neither ESPN host comes back with a "can you elaborate? Can you give us an example? Do you really believe the QB should be responsible to cover up for everyone when they screw up?" There's plenty of possible follow up questions yet they just breeze right to the next question on the script.

 

ESPN sucks.

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

Listening to the interview. How does DD make a comment like that and neither ESPN host comes back with a "can you elaborate? Can you give us an example? Do you really believe the QB should be responsible to cover up for everyone when they screw up?" There's plenty of a possible follow up questions yet they just breeze right to the next question on the script.

 

ESPN sucks.

ESPN is not about journalism, they are about entertainment.  

I take it as DD trying to cover for GJ and this is the best he could come up with.  I don't blame him for trying to pull GJ out of the fire a little bit....but there really isn't much to DD's statement....other than giving fire to Skip Bayless (who could take anything and turn it against Rodgers) and people looking for trouble something to talk about.

 

Really nothing to hear here.

Being a leader is not taking the blame when someone else screws up.  Everyone on the team should be accountable for their play.  There isn't any reason for a QB to coddle the WR's.  It stifles their growth.   Man up, admit your mistake and don't let it happen again.

  I've always told him never forget where you came from. He knows that. But the issue is between him and Greg. I love them both. Great friends

 

 : Can't believe people would think I'm talking about Aaron. Aaron is great person and good friend. He will tell you that
 
GIve him back the statue...
Originally Posted by PackerRuss:
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

Listening to the interview. How does DD make a comment like that and neither ESPN host comes back with a "can you elaborate? Can you give us an example? Do you really believe the QB should be responsible to cover up for everyone when they screw up?" There's plenty of a possible follow up questions yet they just breeze right to the next question on the script.

 

ESPN sucks.

ESPN "News" is not about journalism, they are about entertainment.  

 

Tiny detail.

 

It's obvious that the media will needle Rodgers about being "sensitive" till the end of his career and this is a offshoot of it.  DD already clarified the issue even if the original statement is a little off.  This is more about the human dynamic in the huddle.  I'm sure it's a balancing act of keeping your WR confident and not getting chippy even if they were wrong on the route.  A lot of variables and a lot of egos.  

 

BTW, could Rob Reischel have more of a hard on for Rodgers?  All this guy does is bash him.  He's like a scorned lover.  He seriously comes off looking like a ****ing whining toad everytime he posts about Rodgers.

Originally Posted by justanotherpackerfan:

I take it as DD trying to cover for GJ and this is the best he could come up with.  I don't blame him for trying to pull GJ out of the fire a little bit....but there really isn't much to DD's statement....other than giving fire to Skip Bayless (who could take anything and turn it against Rodgers) and people looking for trouble something to talk about.

 

Really nothing to hear here.

Yup, agreed. And being in the public eye to the extent that Rodgers is, the hungrier the jackals are for fresh meat to keep this thing going.

To me when I heard Driver comments I was bit befuddled, I not sure what he was saying. But I think Driver should get a mulligan on his comments. He is in that difficult transition of moving from athletic star  to being a normal person.

"RT : wants to be remembered like Starr. I've talked to approx. 100 men that played w/Starr. Never one bad word."

 

Don't know how apocryphal the story is but I read an account of the '62 Thanksgiving massacre (when he was sacked something like 11 times) where Starr told one of his linemen  he would kick his ass if he let Alex Karras through one more time. To a certain modern mindset, that might come off as being unsupportive and lacking leadership.

 

WRs have always had the reputation as pre-Madonnas*. It's not surprising that one would expect responsibility for his mistakes to be assumed by another.

 

*Pre-Madonna: Egotistical lead soprano in an opera, Wendy O Williams or big boobed fertility carving.

 

Originally Posted by turnip blood:

To me when I heard Driver comments I was bit befuddled, I not sure what he was saying.

I have that problem when I listen to someone spew assinine gibberish, too.

 

If Driver has a problem with Rodgers' personality, he should sack up and just say it. This nonsense about him not taking blame for the WRs mistakes? Completely moranic.

Originally Posted by JJSD:

This is beautiful.  Keep pissing off Rodgers. 

 

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm hoping Korey Hall & Samkon Gado are next for the Rodgers bashing show

The most important thing is that we all freak out and over react and defend AR to the death so that in a few years when TT brings in a younger QB and AR leaves in a huff and says nasty things about GB and we all hate him and say we never liked him anyway...Iowacheese can dig up these old threads laugh at us.

Originally Posted by FreeSafety:

....so that in a few years when TT brings in a younger QB and AR leaves in a huff and says nasty things about GB and we all hate him and say we never liked him anyway...

I think Thompson leaves before Rodgers does.

We now have criticisms of Rodgers' leadership from three different recievers/TEs.  I know this is going to sound crazy to a lot of you, but maybe, just maybe, it's an area where Rodgers could actually stand to improve. 

 

I love him as a player as much as anyone, but his skills on the field don't automatically make him a perfect human being.  When the criticism came from Finley's agent everyone brushed it off. When it cam from Jennings sister, and then Jennings himself, again it was dismissed.  Now it's coming from Donald Driver, and all anyone can say is that Driver must have been having a bad day, or not meant what he said.

 

Why is it that when someone speaks ill of Rodgers everyone around here acts likes it's blasphemous.  Is it really so hard to believe Rodgers might have a flaw? You know, I recall another Packers QB getting this warship treatment not so long ago, and look how that turned out. 

Rodgers strength?

 

He learns from things.

 

Maybe he learns from hearing these criticisms.

 

#4 douche bag never learned a damn thing after the age of 14.

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