ESPN is the source, however
What will this do to the Rodgers negotiations? Probably nothing.
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Next thing you know, a QB like Ponder will want $15 million a year. Ravens totally screwed up the market.
I know I'm in the minority, but as much as I dislike Dallas, Romo doesn't bother me like he does others. Seems to know his place and isn't a prick. If they want to pay him then good for the WI Boy.
He is not unlikable.
Contract is a mistake, but I think he is a good guy.
Contract is a mistake, but I think he is a good guy.
I don't get what people have against him. He doesn't act like a dink, plays hard, doesn't spout off at the mouth... I don't think he worth the coin, but he has put up big numbers. He's a lot like Donovan McNabb- he has been successful, but always manages to make the play that loses the bigger game. Against the lower level teams, he makes his $$$.
quote:I don't get what people have against him.
He's perpetually overrated because he plays for Dallas.
I like to watch sports, not certain celebrities who happen to play sports, and find the increasing tendency to ignore many of the competitors and only focus on a few famous people to be irritating and often a bad thing.
He's a good player, actually really good. Problem is in the biggest situations he chokes every time. Just look at the game last year vs Washington. They had the ball with a chance to win and get in the playoffs. The very first pass was an awful swing pass that was picked off by the linebacker, game over.
Wears hat backwards....not a leader never will be.
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:quote:I don't get what people have against him.
He's perpetually overrated because he plays for Dallas.
I like to watch sports, not certain celebrities who happen to play sports, and find the increasing tendency to ignore many of the competitors and only focus on a few famous people to be irritating and often a bad thing.
Whose press is Tony Romo stealing? Is there any NFL player who puts up numbers that Romo does that doesn't get publicity? It's not like the guy is say, Mark Sanchez. He has 7 years as the starting QB for the Cowboys, one of which he missed 11 games due to injury. So in 6+ years as a starter, he amasses 25,000 yards, 171 TDs to 91 ints, and suddenly the only reason he's talked about is because he's a celebrity?
That's total BS...
If Tony Romo played in let's say, Buffalo or Jacksonville, would anyone notice or care?
Once again Jerruh Jones is the laughingstock of the league for overpaying for an above average player
Once again Jerruh Jones is the laughingstock of the league for overpaying for an above average player
The guy keeps having brutal losses, and still gets talked about as one of the top QBs in the league despite those terrible, terrible losses.
Funny I mention McNabb- he's on Twitter poo-pooing the deal. LOL! McNabb signs a $78M deal with Washington in 2010 only to be benched and out if football a year later. But he's qualified to dump on Romo's deal... gotcha Don. Okie doke...
I'm glad to see this deal. It further cements the Cowboys salary cap situation, and will likely have an impact on it for the next few years.
Attaboy, Jerruh!
Attaboy, Jerruh!
McNabb did a lot more to help his team win though than Romo.
Romo is Jay Cutler without the attitude. He'll make some great plays and throws and put up stats, but that's only part of being a great QB. Is he a leader? Does he play with confidence? Is he clutch? Those are factors where the jury is out on Romo.
Personally, I don't think he's a top 10 QB. I might even be able to rattle off a dozen guys that I'd take today over him to start for my NFL team.
Romo is Jay Cutler without the attitude. He'll make some great plays and throws and put up stats, but that's only part of being a great QB. Is he a leader? Does he play with confidence? Is he clutch? Those are factors where the jury is out on Romo.
Personally, I don't think he's a top 10 QB. I might even be able to rattle off a dozen guys that I'd take today over him to start for my NFL team.
Who would I take over Romo?
Rodgers, both Mannings, Brees, Brady, Luck, RGIII, Ryan, and Russ Wilson for sure. You might take Dalton, Flacco, Kaepernick, Newton, Rivers, Cutler, Freeman, and Schaub ahead of him as well or at least have him in that same category.
Rodgers, both Mannings, Brees, Brady, Luck, RGIII, Ryan, and Russ Wilson for sure. You might take Dalton, Flacco, Kaepernick, Newton, Rivers, Cutler, Freeman, and Schaub ahead of him as well or at least have him in that same category.
When was the last time anybody called Romo a "Top QB in the league"?
Who said it?
Why are they credible?
Why would any thinking Packer fan give a s**t about any of it?
Who said it?
Why are they credible?
Why would any thinking Packer fan give a s**t about any of it?
quote:Originally posted by MN SnowBong:
Why would any thinking Packer fan give a s**t about any of it?
What % of what is talked about on this forum does anybody truly care about?
He is 5th all time in QB rating. His playoff record is 1-3. If you take away the 2010 season its the same record as Aaron Rodgers. Football is a team sport. Tony Romo gets a bad rep from Cowboys fans spoiled by years of success. He was probably over paid some, but not as bad as Flacco was over paid.
quote:Originally posted by TravisLL:
He is 5th all time in QB rating. His playoff record is 1-3. If you take away the 2010 season its the same record as Aaron Rodgers. Football is a team sport. Tony Romo gets a bad rep from Cowboys fans spoiled by years of success. He was probably over paid some, but not as bad as Flacco was over paid.
Interesting how the numbers tell a different story. There is no arguing the blunders in crucial times but there is so much talk about Jerry Jones being the GM and not being qualified to build a champion. Could that be the true reason the Pokes haven't had success and in reality Romo is the reason they are even contending?
I love that photo of Texas Stadium, with smoke pouring from the top of it. It's never looked better to me.
He's a good QB, but he has a tendency to come up small in big moments, not unlike a certain former Packer QB did at times.
Are you serious Travis? When's the last time Romo won a big game or MVP or anything that actually mattered? QB rating? Whats next? QBR rating to make him look better than he is ala Tim Tebow? Oh yeah been there done that.
Romo is perfect for the Cowboys. All flash but not as much substance. They are more concerned about looking good than the actual results or doing the little things to win.
Romo is perfect for the Cowboys. All flash but not as much substance. They are more concerned about looking good than the actual results or doing the little things to win.
Dallas enters salary cap hell. They overpay Romo so that he will sign a cap friendly deal. They use the cap money that save this year to sign a couple stop gap vets. Cause they are just a player or two away?
Cap friendly for this year, but it will burden them for the next 3-5. It gives Romo such a high number in the out years that they will have to renegotiate or dump him. Selling the future to buy today only works IF you win it all today, as the Ravens did. For the Boys, this is a bad call. For Romo - hey, good for him. He takes the Boys money and I'm sure he will do more good with it that Jerruh ever did.
Proof that having a lot of money is not related to being smart.
Cap friendly for this year, but it will burden them for the next 3-5. It gives Romo such a high number in the out years that they will have to renegotiate or dump him. Selling the future to buy today only works IF you win it all today, as the Ravens did. For the Boys, this is a bad call. For Romo - hey, good for him. He takes the Boys money and I'm sure he will do more good with it that Jerruh ever did.
Proof that having a lot of money is not related to being smart.
My only point is I don't hate on Romo as much as others tend to do, and I don't consider him a failure. He's an average QB who plays for a high profile franchise and a whacked out owner. He doesn't come across as the type of player and guy who brings the limelight he gets on himself, and rather I've seen him take the brunt of the responsibility when they lose. If Dallas wants to pay him mega cash then that's their problem, not a reflection on Romo or what he represents. I'll go so far to say he seems to carry himself a lot like Rodgers minus Rodger's talent.
quote:Originally posted by hof1991:
Proof that having a lot of money is not related to being smart.
Hey, now... let's leave the 32 oz. soda man out of this...!
quote:Are you serious Travis? When's the last time Romo won a playoff game or MVP or anything that actually mattered? QB rating? Whats next? QBR rating to make him look better than he is ala Tim Tebow? Oh yeah been there done that.
Romo is perfect for the Cowboys. All flash but not as much substance. They are more concerned about looking good than the actual results or doing the little things to win.
Fact: He is 5th all time in QB rating.
Fact: His playoff record is 1-3. If you take away Aaron Rodgers 2010 season they have the same record.
Fact: Football is a team sport
My opinion: Tony Romo gets a bad rep from Cowboys fans spoiled by years of success. He was probably over paid some, but not as bad as Flacco was over paid.
Tony Romo is a good QB. I think people let their hatred for the Cowboys and Jerry Jones trickle down to Tony Romo. As michiganjoe said Tony Romo is a lot like Favre. Without Reggie White or Desmond Howard I'm not sure Favre is winning anything. Yet this is suppose to be the measure of a "good" QB.
If you take away the 2010 season....Seriously?
I'm just putting things in a different light. Aaron Rodgers is a much better QB, but without that 2010 run your looking at the same post season record. The Packers barely got in the playoffs that year.
quote:Originally posted by Iowacheese:
droolers unite
That sounds like a Babelfish translation of the title of a Thai porn film.
Not that I know anything about Thai porn films, of course. I'm just guessing.
quote:Originally posted by TravisLL:
I'm just putting things in a different light. Aaron Rodgers is a much better QB, but without that 2010 run your looking at the same post season record. The Packers barely got in the playoffs that year.
That's not a "different light". It's selective horse**** and the epitome of the conspiracy mindset. Facts, they're there for a reason. Use them, all of them.
That's like saying if you leave out the fat girl from the Kwiky Mart you're a virgin.
As far as your "barely made the playoffs", go ask the Steelers and Giants Superbowl teams how they "barely made the playoffs". That's why making the playoffs in the first place is a big deal and what you do in the spotlight an even bigger deal. I could give two ****s about Tony Romo but since this is the discussion what has Rodgers done vs. Romo when it counted most? Use your head.
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
He is not unlikable.
Contract is a mistake, but I think he is a good guy.
Yep.
This is yet another example of tying an NFL player's football value to the size of their paycheck. And when it comes to Jerruh, that fits perfectly
But Romo signing a top deal doesn't mean he's now a top QB - what it more likely means is that Jerruh and his accountants figured out that they can still make enough cash to pay for the Palace and Romo ,so it all works out financially
Jones is a dork, but he is worth over $2 billion and he knows that if he sells X number of Romo jerseys a month to a fan base spread all over the world- that alone will cover this contract. And that's without tickets sales, beer sales and any other merchandise.
It truly is a business and from a business ( not football) point of view, Romo still fills enough seats and sells enough jerseys to make the math work out
That's why the deal makes no sense to us, because we're foolish enough to look at it from a football point of view. They look at it from a bottom line point of view and when the owners are printing cash...they can make these kind of deals even though Tony is at best the 16th ranked QB in the league... Average
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But Romo signing a top deal doesn't mean he's now a top QB - what it more likely means is that Jerruh and his accountants figured out that they can still make enough cash to pay for the Palace and Romo ,so it all works out financially
Jones is a dork, but he is worth over $2 billion and he knows that if he sells X number of Romo jerseys a month to a fan base spread all over the world- that alone will cover this contract. And that's without tickets sales, beer sales and any other merchandise.
It truly is a business and from a business ( not football) point of view, Romo still fills enough seats and sells enough jerseys to make the math work out
That's why the deal makes no sense to us, because we're foolish enough to look at it from a football point of view. They look at it from a bottom line point of view and when the owners are printing cash...they can make these kind of deals even though Tony is at best the 16th ranked QB in the league... Average
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The statement was made that the only reason Romo gets coverage is because he plays in Dallas. But the nNumbers tell a different story.
I think people do project dislike on Romo simply because of who he plays for. You'd think people from WI especially would be congratulating the guy, the same way people support Russell Wilson because of his WI ties. To me they're in the same category. I say good for him, glad we have #12.
I think people do project dislike on Romo simply because of who he plays for. You'd think people from WI especially would be congratulating the guy, the same way people support Russell Wilson because of his WI ties. To me they're in the same category. I say good for him, glad we have #12.
When judging a QB it is not how many completions, yards, TDs, or what gal you are dating or guy you are lusting. When the game is on the line and some juiced up animal is about to introduce himself to your spleen can you hit the right color jersey? No on ROMO.
quote:Could that be the true reason the Pokes haven't had success and in reality Romo is the reason they are even contending?
I don't think Jerry Jones was ever the holder on FGs.
quote:Originally posted by RatPack:
When the game is on the line and some juiced up animal is about to introduce himself to your spleen can you hit the right color jersey?
Yep, and just as important is whether or not your teammates BELIEVE you can
When Montana stepped in the huddle, they knew he could. When Romo steps into the huddle, they know he hasn't