IIRC, Yes.

 

Andrew Brandt I believe wrote an article about how players physicians often will clear and/or sugarcoat medical record reports to make the player as shiny and healthy as they can.

 

It doesn't mean diddly unless that players own team physician clears him. Collins issue was the level of fusion (higher, the worse it is). No other team doc would clear him either.

 

And while they play different positions, Collins was by far the superior NFL player. Had that dude stayed healthy, MM thought he would have been a HOF.

 

 

"When I came back to reality, when I got my senses,..." Really? When did that happen?

Publically, I think the Packers say they are keeping to door open for Finley's return, but privately I think they have already moved on.  Lyerla is not viewed as a 'taking a flyer' on by the Packers - I think they are counting on him developing - and not taking a full year to do so.  Rodgers blocking may take some time to come around, he was jerked around for 3 years in college - playing different ways depending who his OC was.  Bostick is in a put up or go year.  Quarless might be good, but staying healthy is an issue.  And if either Lyerla or Rodgers plays well enough early on, Quarless might be expendable and they would keep some development player instead.  No matter what happens, Finley is not coming back.  There, I said it - so watch it happen. 

Finley never finished a year with stats that put him inside the top 10 NFL tight ends. Even in 2011 or 2012 when he was relatively healthy. He's never cracked 800 yards in a season. While playing his entire career with the best QB in football. 

 

It's hard to look at Finleys overall body of work considering the weapons he's been surrounded with and come to a conclusion other than he's incredibly replaceable. 

 Extraordinarily ordinary?

Monumentally mediocre. 

A tremendous slouch?

I don't think Collins was cleared for football by any doctor. IIRC, his Dr. said the surgery was successful and that Collins was at no further risk with normal activities.

 

 

 

Bostick will be the #1 TE this season.

 

 

Lyerla.

 

Bostick.

 

Rodgers.

 

Younger, cheaper, and no health baggage. Hard for Yotto to compete with any of that.

@jasonjwilde: According to an #NFL source, @JermichaelF88 is in Green Bay and has appointment with Dr. Pat McKenzie this afternoon to view MRIs and talk.

 

@jasonjwilde: To be clear, source says nothing imminent between @JermichaelF88 and #Packers. Just a visit with Dr. McKenzie and another step in process.

Another step in the process? Sounds more like another opportunity for McKenzie to say nope, not here not now.

I don't understand why teams aren't lining up to give YOTTO a Jimmy Graham type contract.

 

I-Just-Don't-Get-It

The problem with Finley and Collins' injuries was the vertebrae they fused. It moves the new pressure points higher on the spine should he take a similar hit. That spot has the nerves that control breathing. So should he take a similar shot there is a likelihood that several million people would watch a player suffocate to death on the field.

 

I don't think that's good for the franchise, good for the player or good for the league. 

 

If the injury were on the next joint down then the affected area would be the nerves that control the lower extremities. Paralysis and death are quite different i think.

I'd rather die than be paralyzed, but that's just me

But think of the great concert/sporting event tickets you can get!

I used to think that way until I got to know a couple of paralyzed folks. They are super positive people with a great love for life. Being paralyzed is far from easy, but there is more to life than walking on those two feet. You could still watch football, for example.

I read a story not long ago about Finley's 10 million inurance policy. To paraphase the story the last  person to collect on a smillar policy struggled with his insurance company for two years to get a payout. What turn the trick was no NFL team offer the player a contract.

Finley might be playing a two track stratagy, one his is measuring what interest teams have, and what they might offered. The second thing he might be doing is heading off any low ball offers, a low contract offer is worse for him then no offers at all. 

I know a guy who has no use of an arm and has a artificail leg due to a 18 wheeler hitting the vehicle he was in.  He plays piano very well in Branson, MO.  If your ever feeling a little down, he is a good person to talk with. 

 

When I think paralyzed, I think from the neck down.

 

From the waist down or 1 leg or 1 arm, yes I agree with you.

 

From the neck down? Just kill me

Knowing JerMichaels mouth as we do, I assume if the meeting between him and McKenzie even sniffed of something positive, he woulda been tweeting left and right.

 

I can only assume little to nothing has changed.

 

BTW, one hell of a necklace JerMike....

 

He needs a huge alarm clock on that chain.

Flav agrees!!

 

Oh great, here comes Adrian Peterson with his stupid comments again...

TE Jermichael Finley's $10M fallback plan might not be firm

 

"These insurers are looking at precedent," Paul said. "If the insurer thinks that Finley and his agent are trying to leverage Finley's insurance coverage in order to extract a better contract, but at the same time they're saying he really can play, the insurer is going to be very leery of paying out that policy. Doing so may create a precedent of providing coverage even where there are plenty of signs that the player is healthy enough to compete."

 

While discussion about whether Finley decides to collect the money from his disability policy or play the game is intriguing, it wouldn't be taking place had he purchased a "loss of value" policy in addition to his disability policy.

 

Loss of value insurance is designed to cover a player for the difference between what he would have made if healthy and what he ends up making after an injury or illness. In Finley's case, he was seen by many as one of the NFL's top-10 tight ends. He likely would have fetched more than $5 million per year in free agency if healthy.

 

Assume Finley fetches only $1 million per year on the open market because of his injury. Loss of value would have theoretically paid him that $4 million difference.

It's unclear why Finley didn't have a loss of value policy but he told MMQB in October of 2013 that his agent and financial advisers pushed him to purchase a disability policy.

 

A source close to the situation says Baratz wasn't sold on the idea of purchasing loss of value because of the cost and the definitions in the policy.

 

Larcheveque says Finley likely paid in the ballpark of $100,000 for the disability coverage, while loss of value would have cost an additional $30,000-$40,000.

 

"If he would have had [loss of value], he would have the ability to collect $3 [million] to $4 million tax free," Larcheveque said. "Should [Finley] be cleared to play, it certainly will muddy the water from a claim standpoint but does not make [him recovering] an impossibility. The policies do contain what's known as a rehab clause – for the NFL, a four-game period in which the player can come back. If he re-suffers an injury, or gets a second opinion determining him to be [permanently totally disabled], the claim may be viewed as valid."-yahoo (getlin)

 

If I'm a football player I think I'd spend the extra money for the loss of value policy.  I'm guessing Finley's agent doesn't get a cut of the insurance policy.  Bad enough Finley has to deal with the injury, the legal side of it seems like a big mess.   

@JermichaelF88: Great workout today w @TimTebow. The grind never stops! #NeverGiveUp

 

 

 

#SIGNTEBOZTOBETIGHTEND/QB/RUNNIONGBACKNOWTED

 

I was once in a band named "Die Trying"

Finley might play again but it won't be in GB.  If they wouldn't entertain bringing Collins back they certainly won't bring Finley back

Lots of busted up necks in Packers history

Sterling, Tim Lewis, Collins, J Mike

Terrence Murphy, Gary Berry