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Micah Hyde’s rookie year just the beginning

Mike Spofford packers.com staff writer

2/1/14


 

 

Micah Hyde got the message from the get-go.

 

“I came in here Day 1 and they said be prepared for anything,” Hyde said.

 

There wasn’t much Hyde didn’t do as a rookie for the Packers in 2013, and when the season ended, he said repeatedly he was “thankful” for all the opportunities he got to play.

 

“To be smart enough to be able to do both (positions) where you’re really playing a linebacker-type position and there’s a lot of communication that goes along with that, he improved with that as the year went on,” cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr. said.

 

“He showed the ability to tackle, showed the ability to blitz, showed the ability to take on linemen, so I think that the future is bright with him.”

 

Asked how a player passed over for four-plus rounds in the draft could show up so soon, Whitt pointed to the two veterans and starters in the cornerback group – Tramon Williams and Sam Shields – who came into the league undrafted and know what it means to bring younger players along.

 

“Most of the guys in my room were passed up, so it goes to the character of the men, the way that we work together,” Whitt said. “Micah would tell you the men in the room helped him as much as anybody. It helps the progression of the whole room.

 

“We don’t have any selfish men in the room. When you attack it that way, younger players can progress more quickly. That’s why I think Casey blossomed last year, and now Micah.”

 

A regular on the coverage units on special teams (he finished third on the team in coverage tackles),

 

Hyde also took the punt-return duties and ran with them following a strong showing at Baltimore in Week 6.

 

Two weeks later at Minnesota, he ran a punt back 93 yards for a TD, the team’s longest in six years, and he finished with a 12.3-yard average.

 

Having not returned kickoffs since high school, Hyde worked his way into that job as well late in the season, and ran one back 70 yards vs. Pittsburgh.

 

“He’s an excellent ball-handler,” special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum said. “Catches the ball well, makes good decisions.”

 

The Packers may have an offseason decision to make with Hyde. Depending on what happens with the upcoming draft and with Shields in free agency, the defense could have more use for Hyde at safety than as a nickel or dime corner. Hyde played very little if any outside corner all season.

 

 Both Hyde and Whitt conceded it’s not their call to make, and he remains a cornerback for now.

 

 “I want to do whatever’s best for the defense,” Whitt said. “If he’s one of the best 11 and we need him on the field, what our nickel and dime does is very similar to what our safeties are asked to do. His skill set can fit that, so whatever’s best for the defense we’ll do.”

 

 In the meantime, the rookie standout has a long offseason to think about the play that could have made him a rookie legend – the potential interception of 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick at the San Francisco 30-yard line with just over four minutes left in a tied NFC wild-card playoff game.

 

With a leaping attempt, Hyde got his hands on the ball but couldn’t haul it in.

 

Whitt called it a “hard play” but one that could have been a “signature play” to close out a game. For Hyde, it’s simply a moment he’s sure he’ll never forget.

 

“I’m not saying I’m going to be doing more push-ups just because of it, but I’ll definitely think about that, and coming into next season, I’ll try to make myself better because of it.”

 

That’s Hyde’s next step – improvement. Within the Packers’ draft-and-develop philosophy, it’s players like Hyde whose strides from their first to second seasons are vital, who can make the biggest impact.

 

Those types of expectations don’t bother Hyde, though. It’s how he was raised in college at Iowa, and he wouldn’t have it any other way.  He’ll be ready for anything, again.

 

“It’s exciting. Coach (Kirk) Ferentz taught us the same way,” Hyde said. “He said you have experience now, and we expect you to go out there and be a lot better player because of it, and that’s the way I see myself."

 

“I’m thankful for this opportunity, and I guarantee I come back next season a much better player. You can write that down as a guarantee. That’s just the way I feel and the way the mentality is around here.”

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Very well done!

 

I don't know if Whitt's commenting on a potential move to safety for Hyde is just in response to fan consensus or if there's actual talk of doing it inside 1265. I think it would be a great move for Hyde and the Packers, myself. Hayward can return to the slot corner position, and Hyde can hopefully solidify the weakest link of the defense.

 

He's a spit and image of Darren Sharper in that last pic.

Last edited by Fond Du Arrigo

Fantastic job putting this together. Hyde has the look of a guy that's going to get better and better every year and eventually become that crafty vet that never had blazing speed but his football IQ usually put him in the right spot to make plays. 

Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:

 spit and image .

I always thought the phrase was "spitting image"

 

Back on topic.  Hyde can keep catching the ball on special teams in my opinion. 

Last edited by El-Ka-Bong
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:

 spit and image .

I always thought the phrase was "spitting image"

 

 

Irregardless and for all intensive purposes I could care less which term is used.

Last edited by Blair Kiel
Originally Posted by ammo:
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:

 

 

He's a spit and image of Darren Sharper in that last pic.

And this is supposed to be a good thing???

Not a good or bad thing, just an observation. Call me Sir Isaac F'n Newton.

Last edited by Fond Du Arrigo
 

Originally Posted by Iowacheese:

Love it....Jesus **** when does football ****ing start!

 

 

Technically, it's not yet over. But I get your point... ****q. the Super Bowl. ****q. the commercials. Bring on the ****in' 2014 season. Packers, ****in' SB XLIX Champions!!!!

 

Hyde had a great year, met every challenge that was presented, and responded very well to them all. I look forward to his continued development.

FWIW, I think Hyde is a perfect example of 'tailoring the defense to your players'. He should be put into a position that maximizes his skills, and minimizes his deficiencies, and Coach Whitt's comment reflects that.

 

As an aside, when we wonder who the leaders are on this team, I think the answers often lie in sideline photos. The picture of Jordy with his arm around Hyde's neck speaks volumes.

SB XLIX Champions!!!!

 

XLIX

 

Pronounced - (Ecks-Licks). Well I guess that's better than ex-lax.

 

Why can't it just be "IL" {stupid Roman Numerals}

 

...turrible. These "jokes" are making me IL

 

Go Micah Hyde!

Originally Posted by Boris:

       

I gotta think Casey Heyward is going to be legit in 2014


       

I wonder what effect a lost season will have on him. He's important, especially I they can't re-sign Shields. With Williams back to form with the shoulder, having those 3 cb together will be huge. Then you can move Hyde to S and they have 4 guys that can cover. For this much maligned secondary it'll be a welcome change having all horses on the field...
Originally Posted by Boris:

I gotta think Casey Heyward is going to be legit in 2014

This.

 

One of the reasons our defense appeared to regress in 2013 is we didn't have Casey. People forget Hayward was one of the top cornerbacks in the NFL in 2012. Opposing quarterbacks had a 31.1 passer rating against him. That was the best by a CB in the entire league. 

 

Imagine Seattle's secondary, as good as it is, without Richard Sherman for pretty much the entire season. While they have good depth at the position, losing a shut down corner immediately weakens their pass defense. For a unit with lesser talent, like the one the Packers had this year, the loss is even more impactful. 

Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:

Very well done!

 

I don't know if Whitt's commenting on a potential move to safety for Hyde is just in response to fan consensus or if there's actual talk of doing it inside 1265. I think it would be a great move for Hyde and the Packers, myself. Hayward can return to the slot corner position, and Hyde can hopefully solidify the weakest link of the defense.

 

He's a spit and image of Darren Sharper in that last pic.

I think it is response to the fans.....TT, MM and JW are known to monitor this and other fan sites and adjust the team to fit their desires.

Apparently Chad Morton had nothing to do with Hyde's success at KR and PR....Morton's been fired.  (on the other hand, Slocum stays....)  And, for those calling for a shakeup in the strength/conditioning staff, assistant Zach Woodfin has departed.

 

So, now that we have fixed the poor coaching on special teams, outside LB, QB and the strength/conditioning staff, what do we have to look forward to?

I plan to scream about the need to FIRE CAPERS for another year.  There's also AJ Hawk to crap on when the need arises. 

 

There will never be a shortage of whipping boys.  

Originally Posted by Pikes Peak:
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:

Very well done!

 

I don't know if Whitt's commenting on a potential move to safety for Hyde is just in response to fan consensus or if there's actual talk of doing it inside 1265. I think it would be a great move for Hyde and the Packers, myself. Hayward can return to the slot corner position, and Hyde can hopefully solidify the weakest link of the defense.

 

He's a spit and image of Darren Sharper in that last pic.

I think it is response to the fans.....TT, MM and JW are known to monitor this and other fan sites and adjust the team to fit their desires.

I do believe a master debater would refer to this as a "straw man".

Some comments from this excellent post by titm

 

Hyde developed quickly and so did Hayward- and in both cases DB coach Joe Whitt credited the other players in the DB room. Tramon and Sam Shields were both  undrafted and their memory of that uphill climb helped them to help the new guys get up to speed quickly

 

Much different than the scene in Miami lockerroom and one more reason to be proud of how the Packers go about their business...

 

Go Packers

So as Packer fans lament, kvetch and wonder about the Safeties GB isn't signing...

I wanted to ask a question - partially based on this excellent post from titm

 

GB plays a lot of nickle defense; its usually in the 70-75% of snaps range and that puts Casey Hayward on the field in slot (which is a good thing).

 

So it would look like this in nickel:

 

Tramon

Shields

Hayward

Burnett

+ 1 more

 

So if GB brings in an outside player via draft or FA, that puts Hyde on the bench for 70+ % of the plays and he'd battle House for snaps in the dime

 

Given how happy GB was with Micah's development, do you think they are planning on him spending so much time on the bench ? Given his ability to blitz, cover and tackle as outlined in this thread, does that make sense to sit him down ?

 

The best chance for Hyde to play on defense isn't at corner where GB is 3 or 4 deep already- its at Safety. And both his position coach and his HC have hinted at that possibility in this thread and in other comments.

 

Burnett, Hyde, Richardson, draft pick, Banjo/Bush might be the depth chart for 2014

Hyde is an immense upgrade vs McMillian or MD

 

 

I'm guessing they either draft a 1st or 2nd round Safety (based on who is available and not need) and they compete with Hyde or they bring in a veteran Safety as insurance in case Hyde falls on his face at Safety. 

Here's the comment from above from his position coach Joe Whitt

 

“I want to do whatever’s best for the defense,” Whitt said. “If he’s one of the best 11 and we need him on the field, what our nickel and dime does is very similar to what our safeties are asked to do. His skill set can fit that, so whatever’s best for the defense we’ll do.”

 

 

I think we're past the fall on his face stage, but competition is always the best way to sort it all out. I know many Packer fans will struggle to accept this possibility, but maybe Safety isn't the number one need on defense. (maybe...)

 

 

With Burnett, Richardson, Bush, and Banjo the Packer safeties gave up a ridiculous QB rating well north of 100, didn't collect a single INT, not one forced fumble, and some terribly pedestrian QB's the Packers faced had very good days against this safety crew.

 

Now could Hyde be an improvement over Jennings? Well let's just I can't see how he can do much worse then Jennings. But that's hardly a compliment. And Morgan Burnett who your penciling in as a starter gave up something like a QB rating of 119 including multiple plays where Jennings hadn't blown coverage or Burnett was scrambling to cover for him. These were plays where it was entirely Burnett's play to defend. He flat out failed.

 

The answer is probably in the draft where I suspect if TT isn't going to get a S in FA he will look in rounds 1-3 for one. He certainly hit pay dirt with Collins. He whiffed horribly with McMillian and grossly over estimated Jennings potential.

 

TT has the power to fix that. But as we all know if we are a draft/development team almost exclusively, Thompson can ill afford a lot of misses. He ignored the safety position entirely in 2013. Has an slightly above average one in Burnett and then a host of ? marks I am in no way confident can do the job.

 

 

 

Apparently the 3rd degree burns haven't quite healed up yet

I'll try back another time

 

PS- tell Ferentz thanks for Hyde and send us CJ Fiedorowicz next   

January

The challenge on the safety side is that I think Burnett, Hyde, Richardson are all SS types. We need a guy with veteran smarts and the athletic ability to execute those smarts. Nick Collins for example


March

The best chance for Hyde to play on defense isn't at corner where GB is 3 or 4 deep already- its at Safety. And both his position coach and his HC have hinted at that possibility in this thread and in other comments.

 

I guess Hyde got significantly better in the past 2 months.

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