@ammo posted:You know what they say about guys with big hands and feet.
They swim fast?
It starts.
Teams 'cirling' already for Giannis.
Hiring Doc and trading for Dame could end up being the worst moves in franchise history.
"The teams I've heard are Miami and New York -- the Nets, not the Knicks."
Bullshit....It's the Knicks and that's where Giannis would want to go IMO.
GAME FUCKING OVER if the Knicks get Giannis and I instantly become a Knicks fan. FUCK THE CELTICS
1 more thing.....everyone wants the Bucks to keep losing to get Giannis out of Milwaukee. Why not flip them off on the way out and win another chip?!
Jon Horst needs to be shown the door before anyone. The Adrian Griffin decision is still reverberating. The Dame trade appears to be a swing and a miss, but let's be honest, a lot of GMs would have made that trade. I think the thought throughout the league was that Dame was one of those guys that was stuck in purgatory for years and getting to a place where he could finally win it all would allow him to reach the next level. In other words, a Kevin Garnett with the T-Wolves-type situation. That wasn't the case. Dame either can't or won't do what's necessary to play enough defense.
Even with the Dame trade, the real issue was the Adrian Griffin hiring. From all accounts, the guy had no idea what he was doing from day one. As soon as Terry Stotts quit, you had to know something was up. They could see this pretty quickly and then when they fired Griffin, there weren't a lot coaches with the experience to salvage the situation. Stotts would have been ideal given he had previous success with Dame. The best coach to salvage the situation was probably sitting in his lake home in Oconomowoc counting the money he was being paid to not coach (Bud). So, they ended up with Doc, who basically extorted ownership because they were over a barrel at that point.
Hindsight is 20/20. They should have kept Bud. Their floor was winning 50-55 games and you knew what the philosophy was. He would have won back to back titles had Middleton been healthy in 2022, and then had a terrible coaching series in Game 5 of the Heat series in 2023 (really a terrible 5:02 seconds based on the Butler lob and then Grayson Allen dribbling away the season when you had a timeout to spare). If the Bucks win Game 5, Bud is probably back even with a Game 6 loss.
But instead, they blow up team chemistry, and end up with a much worse version of Bud in Doc (experienced coaches who struggle with playoff adjustments). Dame and Giannis look like guys that just got stuck on a team in a rec league in terms of their chemistry.
If Doc is really the one making the decisions, they are doomed.
Same old Bucks from 2000 to 2018. Didn't make the playoffs or lost in the 1st round.
Remember when the Bucks were good?
I remember.
@PackerHawk posted:Remember when the Bucks were good?
I remember.
Not Good
Larry Drew
Jason Kidd
Adrian Griffin (good record, but not good)
Doc Rivers
Good
Mike Budenholzer
