I come for the chicks, personally.
quote:Originally posted by Sterling84:quote:Originally posted by ammo:
So TT is to believe a rumor on a fantasy football site that comes from possibly a rumor started by a Milwaukee radio station.
Why are we on this forum? To discuss football right? including rumors. If bs was banned on the internet there would be no internet. Relax dude.
I never said we couldn't believe it or discuss it. But to those who said Do it TT, like what was posted is absolute truth is nuts.
So chill yourself dude.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Does that mean I can't meat any chicks?
No, but this does
They all saw it in your locker after the match
quote:There were about 3-4 running plays where Jim Brown (The runner, not the singer) would have been tackled for no gain.
Jim Brown the singer is dead, so I think he'd have trouble gaining any yardage.
quote:Specifically, a guy who came from Oakland (Woodson) then to Green Bay only to find out how cool it is.
Or, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There is no 'there' there."
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Jim Brown the singer is dead, so I think he'd have trouble gaining any yardage.
Nobody is dead until Fedya says they're dead.
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Or, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There is no 'there' there."
Give me your favorite Dorothy Parker quote.
We're messing with the simps.
I like to have a martini,
Two at the very most.
After three I'm under the table,
after four I'm under my host.
Two at the very most.
After three I'm under the table,
after four I'm under my host.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
No, but this does
They all saw it in your locker after the match
I'm a gift giver. I give, and give and give...
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Character?
Andre Rison says "hi".
Keith Jackson says "hi".
Eugene Robinson says "hi".
Brent Favre says "hi". (pill-popper womanizer at the time)
Wayne Simmons says "I'm dead, but "hi"".
I'm not saying we turn into the Cincinnati Bengals, but I could live with a Super Bowl win and one (hopefully reformed) turd on the team.
quote:Originally posted by Fedya:quote:Specifically, a guy who came from Oakland (Woodson) then to Green Bay only to find out how cool it is.
Or, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There is no 'there' there."
Wow. Nice.
CJS, I'm not looking for angels. I'm looking for guys who will stay out of trouble with the law and guys who will be good teammates at the same time, IF we are going to give up a high draft pick. I still don't know why that is so surprising.
If you can convince me that we are definitely one Lynch away from a Super Bowl, I might take your side. I am not convinced. He is not a great player, Lynch. The last time I was impressed with his play he was at California trying to run folks over with a cart.
If you can convince me that we are definitely one Lynch away from a Super Bowl, I might take your side. I am not convinced. He is not a great player, Lynch. The last time I was impressed with his play he was at California trying to run folks over with a cart.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Or, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There is no 'there' there."
Give me your favorite Dorothy Parker quote.
Dorothy Parker's review of Katharine Hepburn:
She runs the gamut of emotions from A to B.
@Goalline:
I think you have to take calculated risks sometimes. Can I prove that this is that time? No. But I believe that Lynch would come here with a chip on his shoulder and kick ass. He'd be ecstatic to be in a winning organization. He'd have mentors (Woodson, Driver, Harris) and friends (Rodgers). This offense is already good. With Lynch, it becomes Elite.
We are going to need a running game in the cold/bad weather. We're going to need a running game in the playoffs. Our defense will play better if we can eat clock in bad weather.
I truly think we're a Lynch away from a Super Bowl appearance. Seriously, the guy wants out of there and will run through a brick wall for us. (because he'll have to until our OT's are replaced)
I think you have to take calculated risks sometimes. Can I prove that this is that time? No. But I believe that Lynch would come here with a chip on his shoulder and kick ass. He'd be ecstatic to be in a winning organization. He'd have mentors (Woodson, Driver, Harris) and friends (Rodgers). This offense is already good. With Lynch, it becomes Elite.
We are going to need a running game in the cold/bad weather. We're going to need a running game in the playoffs. Our defense will play better if we can eat clock in bad weather.
I truly think we're a Lynch away from a Super Bowl appearance. Seriously, the guy wants out of there and will run through a brick wall for us. (because he'll have to until our OT's are replaced)
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Does that mean I can't meat any chicks?
Will this do?
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Andre Rison.
what about Andre Rison? Huh? Goaline. Not so smart are you now.
All we have to do is wait for Lynch to be cut and we can recreate history.
"She burned down the house"
All we have to do is wait for Lynch to be cut and we can recreate history.
"She burned down the house"
quote:Originally posted by vitaflo:quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Andre Rison.
Andre Rison
quote:Originally posted by CJS:quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Character?
Andre Rison says "hi".
Keith Jackson says "hi".
Eugene Robinson says "hi".
Brent Favre says "hi". (pill-popper womanizer at the time)
Wayne Simmons says "I'm dead, but "hi"".
I'm not saying we turn into the Cincinnati Bengals, but I could live with a Super Bowl win and one (hopefully reformed) turd on the team.
Andre Rison
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
what about Andre Rison? Huh? Goaline. Not so smart are you now.
All we have to do is wait for Lynch to be cut and we can recreate history.
"She burned down the house"
We didn't get him for a 2nd round pick? RIP, Left Eye...and a moment of silence for all the people who died on the Titanic.
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:quote:Originally posted by CJS:quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by PackerJoe:
Didn't the Packers trade a second round pick for Keith Jackson? If I remember correctly Jackson was so happy about Green Bay that he choose to holdout before reporting to Green Bay. I also remember when all was said and done that it was a deal that worked out for the Packers.
Another very mature person. Lynch? Not so much. Character matters.
Character?
Andre Rison says "hi".
Keith Jackson says "hi".
Eugene Robinson says "hi".
Brent Favre says "hi". (pill-popper womanizer at the time)
Wayne Simmons says "I'm dead, but "hi"".
I'm not saying we turn into the Cincinnati Bengals, but I could live with a Super Bowl win and one (hopefully reformed) turd on the team.
Andre Rison
His name was Andre Rison.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
LOL, that is one cute picture.
You think cocks are cute?
Knew it!
Adorable! Just ask Brak. Oh yeah, and he loves bitch tits with his meatloaf.
Have both:
I don't quite understand what the argument is? Ted Thompson, I'm 100% sure, is willing to talk to any team about any player. If he thinks the trade is good and the player he is good then he will make the deal. A 2nd round pick for Marshawn Lynch is in no way a good deal for the Packers. No a 2011 draft pick won't solve our RB problems now but this isn't the only year we will be competing for a SB and that pick may be a big help down the road. I think the best deal for GB is a conditional pick that is between a 3rd and a 5th. Will Buffalo agree to that? Maybe, but unlikely IMO. Jackson has been underwhelming but don't forget we have a supposedly talented RB in Nance. We shouldn't give him a chance? What if we had traded for a high profile RB when Jackson got injured and Ryan Grant was an unknown in 2007?
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
I don't quite understand what the argument is?
Ted Thompson sucks, try to keep up
If Lynch can cover on punts and kickoffs I am for trading a lot for him.
Can he punt too?
And prevent other Packers from getting penalties?
And prevent other Packers from getting penalties?
quote:Originally posted by Satori:quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
I don't quite understand what the argument is?
Ted Thompson sucks, try to keep up
Typical end-game argument. Disagree on one part of the roster and "Ted Thompson sucks". At least some people aren't Pollyanna sheep whose only opinion follows that of the management. Step outside the box once and a while.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
I don't think he is that good.
Look man, you and I both predicted exactly what would happen on Monday. Teams don't even have to respect the Packers run game. It's a joke. You don't think a healthy, angry, Marshawn Lynch is at least as good as Ryan Grant? Grant is a nice dude and all, but he's no world-beater. Clearly though Grant is head and shoulders better than Kuhn and BJax. Taking this to the next logicial step, (IMO) Lynch is better than Grant, so yes, I think he makes this offense elite.
Oh and rumor has it Ted wanted to draft Lynch.
@Gravedigger: I'd trade a second for Lynch, win the Super Bowl and not look back.
quote:Originally posted by Blair Kiel:quote:Originally posted by Fedya:
Or, as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There is no 'there' there."
Give me your favorite Dorothy Parker quote.
"There's very little difference between men and women. With one you get a sore neck, with the other your jaw aches."
She also had a good one about Ayn Rand, but I can't remember it now.
A good situationist would have a field day around here.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
Does that mean I can't meat any chicks?
Isn't everything at its base essence a means to meat the chicks? Meat on, bro.
quote:Originally posted by CJS:quote:Originally posted by Satori:quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
I don't quite understand what the argument is?
Ted Thompson sucks, try to keep up
Typical end-game argument. Disagree on one part of the roster and "Ted Thompson sucks". At least some people aren't Pollyanna sheep whose only opinion follows that of the management. Step outside the box once and a while.
Dear CJS, it was a joke...
Thanks for the kind words though, it'd be a shame to try and hold all that inside
.
Satori, it's not just this post, you also posted: "Its a basic call for attention by a blogger who knows how to rile the small-brains and generate traffic to his site."
I agree that Thompson is an excellent GM and overall MM is a good coach, but they are not above reproach.
I agree that Thompson is an excellent GM and overall MM is a good coach, but they are not above reproach.
Satori was making a joke (*edit...as he said so himself).
@ CJS (this part only): I don't think it's been established at all that Lynch is better than Grant, and I don't think we're (or any other team for that matter) is a lock for the Super Bowl whether we make another move or not.
For all of the handwringing about the running game, we still were marching the ball up and down the field. We simply had way too many penalties, three bad special teams execution lapses, and a one crucial turnover. Not that anyone is going to care, but Kuhn also averaged right around 5 ypc. Used properly, he can be effective.
The situation we're currently in now is not very different from where we were early in '07 except our OT's are now (obviously) older and aren't playing as consistently well (especially run blocking which was never their strong suit anyway). Going forward, we're going to continue spread the field, we're going to move the ball, we're going to score, and we're going to win games. Bank on it.
However, it's becoming clear that we aren't able to run the stretch play or the sweeps with any degree of consistency, so I say dump them (for now). As others have mentioned, that's not just on the backs, it's also on the OL (especially Clifton who is just not getting it done run blocking). And that's regardless of what back is playing.
Run Kuhn north and south between the tackles and/or off tackle, swing Jackson out of the backfield more to get him in space (where he appears more decisive), and also run some draws out of the shotgun when Jackson's the single back. Put your players in the best possible position to succeed. I believe the coaching staff is already of that mindset, but they're still in the process of making adjustments.
They are already moving groups in and out constantly on offense which I absolutely approve of, but I'd like to see the playcalling involving the backs to be even further refined.
I would also be in favor of starting Bulaga at LT which would also help the run game, however I'm not yet convinced Tauscher is done as some seem to think. If he continues to struggle, then you start activating Lang on game day and working him into the mix at RT. The change to Bulaga is inevitable, and Clifton would still have value as a pass blocking insurance policy (when he's healthy enough to be effective).
In the meantime, continue to force-feed Nance the playbook and evaluate him, and also take a hard look at Starks when he's finally allowed to practice with the team. If Starks isn't deemed ready to contribute this year, then IR him. If Nance isn't cutting it or a better option presents itself, then make another move. And continue to sound out rest of the league for a deal that makes sense as has been reportedly the case.
What I do not advocate is trading a high pick (#1 or #2) for Marshawn Lynch. If Buffalo would be willing to take a #3 (given that we should get a #3 compensatory pick for Kampman after a new labor deal is finally struck) or possibly a guy such as Desmond Bishop as part of a deal then I have no real problems with it. I sincerely doubt Hawk's going anywhere (until next year). The problem is that Buffalo already has turned down more than that before the season started. Has the price dropped? I don't see why it would have.
As far as acquistions, go Keith Jackson is a name that continues to come up as an example of a player that was acquired for a #2 pick. However, Jackson was a rare player (albeit older @ 29) at his position, and it would be a real stretch at this point to say the same about Lynch.
Another pickup from the mid-90's Andre Rison didn't cost anything but the money on his contract (and there is no such player available on the open market nor likely to be). Lynch has talent, but given BOTH his on field production, and off the field crap he (IMO) simply isn't worth any more than a 3rd at the most.
I also simply flat out disagree with anyone that believes he's the difference between possibly reaching the Super Bowl or not.
Whether or not we reach that game is going to be predicated on #12 and the passing game as well as solid play from both the defense and special teams which both units have already shown that they are capable of (Monday night's debacle notwithstanding).
We're 2-1, looking to be 3-1 and not only will the Bores come back down to earth at some point, we still have another game with them at Lambeau. If we simply play smarter, cleaner football and move the ball only as well as we did Monday I have no doubt at all we'll win that game.
@ CJS (this part only): I don't think it's been established at all that Lynch is better than Grant, and I don't think we're (or any other team for that matter) is a lock for the Super Bowl whether we make another move or not.
For all of the handwringing about the running game, we still were marching the ball up and down the field. We simply had way too many penalties, three bad special teams execution lapses, and a one crucial turnover. Not that anyone is going to care, but Kuhn also averaged right around 5 ypc. Used properly, he can be effective.
The situation we're currently in now is not very different from where we were early in '07 except our OT's are now (obviously) older and aren't playing as consistently well (especially run blocking which was never their strong suit anyway). Going forward, we're going to continue spread the field, we're going to move the ball, we're going to score, and we're going to win games. Bank on it.
However, it's becoming clear that we aren't able to run the stretch play or the sweeps with any degree of consistency, so I say dump them (for now). As others have mentioned, that's not just on the backs, it's also on the OL (especially Clifton who is just not getting it done run blocking). And that's regardless of what back is playing.
Run Kuhn north and south between the tackles and/or off tackle, swing Jackson out of the backfield more to get him in space (where he appears more decisive), and also run some draws out of the shotgun when Jackson's the single back. Put your players in the best possible position to succeed. I believe the coaching staff is already of that mindset, but they're still in the process of making adjustments.
They are already moving groups in and out constantly on offense which I absolutely approve of, but I'd like to see the playcalling involving the backs to be even further refined.
I would also be in favor of starting Bulaga at LT which would also help the run game, however I'm not yet convinced Tauscher is done as some seem to think. If he continues to struggle, then you start activating Lang on game day and working him into the mix at RT. The change to Bulaga is inevitable, and Clifton would still have value as a pass blocking insurance policy (when he's healthy enough to be effective).
In the meantime, continue to force-feed Nance the playbook and evaluate him, and also take a hard look at Starks when he's finally allowed to practice with the team. If Starks isn't deemed ready to contribute this year, then IR him. If Nance isn't cutting it or a better option presents itself, then make another move. And continue to sound out rest of the league for a deal that makes sense as has been reportedly the case.
What I do not advocate is trading a high pick (#1 or #2) for Marshawn Lynch. If Buffalo would be willing to take a #3 (given that we should get a #3 compensatory pick for Kampman after a new labor deal is finally struck) or possibly a guy such as Desmond Bishop as part of a deal then I have no real problems with it. I sincerely doubt Hawk's going anywhere (until next year). The problem is that Buffalo already has turned down more than that before the season started. Has the price dropped? I don't see why it would have.
As far as acquistions, go Keith Jackson is a name that continues to come up as an example of a player that was acquired for a #2 pick. However, Jackson was a rare player (albeit older @ 29) at his position, and it would be a real stretch at this point to say the same about Lynch.
Another pickup from the mid-90's Andre Rison didn't cost anything but the money on his contract (and there is no such player available on the open market nor likely to be). Lynch has talent, but given BOTH his on field production, and off the field crap he (IMO) simply isn't worth any more than a 3rd at the most.
I also simply flat out disagree with anyone that believes he's the difference between possibly reaching the Super Bowl or not.
Whether or not we reach that game is going to be predicated on #12 and the passing game as well as solid play from both the defense and special teams which both units have already shown that they are capable of (Monday night's debacle notwithstanding).
We're 2-1, looking to be 3-1 and not only will the Bores come back down to earth at some point, we still have another game with them at Lambeau. If we simply play smarter, cleaner football and move the ball only as well as we did Monday I have no doubt at all we'll win that game.