Until I watched the Hags clusterf**** a potential SB win. The worst thing is enduring the endless commentary and replays in addition to having the opposing QB etc. elevated to immortal status. Its liked being whipped with barbed wire. We endured it for two weeks. Seattle will be in football purgatory forever.
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Glad that this happened to the Seaweed. It couldn't happen to a bigger collection of punks, loud mouth braggarts, and plain A-holes. For 2 weeks we heard about how they came back to beat the Packers when everyone knows the Packers gave the game away. Who knew the Seattle would re-gift it to NE?
Rusty Wilson is getting a free pass here. I understand Pete Carroll's line of thinking going for the throw on 2nd down. I don't agree with throwing it, but it's justifiable. They only had 1 timeout left and throwing it allows them to run it on both 3rd and 4th down. Nobody is getting on Wilson for a terrible throw, the guy was open on a 3 yard slant and Wilson made a chitty throw.
Also, when the Hags started that drive they had 3 timeouts left. They burned 2 of them on that drive because Wilson couldn't get the play off in time. If they'd have had 2 timeouts on the goal line they could have run it all 4 plays. Wilson failed, big time, on that drive.
Russell Wilson with his best Joel Stave impersonation
Nobody is getting on Wilson for a terrible throw, the guy was open on a 3 yard slant and Wilson made a chitty throw.
He should have lobbed it up in the air about 100ft.
I don't think Wilson ever saw Butler.
Don't understand Carroll's explanation(s) of the call.
For 2 weeks we heard about how they came back to beat the Packers when everyone knows the Packers gave the game away.
Kinda wished I would have watched/read what you did 'cause all I heard/read was how the Pack blew the game.
Anyway, Hags fans can at least deal with one gaffe instead of the 4-5 we Packer fans will have to think about.
no way this is 100x worse than what the packers did.
1 yard for a championship ring. 1 minute to go and 3 plays could have been run.
this will go down as the worst play call/execution ever. its not even close. that play will be re-run for eternity. it might even overshadow the fact the seahwaks won a SB last year.
Rusty Wilson is getting a free pass here. I understand Pete Carroll's line of thinking going for the throw on 2nd down. I don't agree with throwing it, but it's justifiable. They only had 1 timeout left and throwing it allows them to run it on both 3rd and 4th down. Nobody is getting on Wilson for a terrible throw, the guy was open on a 3 yard slant and Wilson made a chitty throw.
The throw wasn't too bad, but Lockette was completely unaware that a d-back may be breaking on the ball and didn't screen him with his body. That's a play/technique we've seen Davante Adams learn over the season. New England had good film study and knew the formation/play tendency and Lockette failed in his technique.
And the Patriots couldn't simply kneel down or it would be a safety, but Bennett stupidly jumping offsides even when the linebacker had a hold of his pants trying to keep him from doing so was hilarious.
Don't understand Carroll's explanation(s) of the call.
Hard to understand but he did as good of a job as possible to explain it and not throw anybody under the proverbial bus. His response to this really makes it crystal clear why guys want to play for him.
Watching Seattle gag this one away at the end and show their punk side at the end really took away some of the post Packer-choke anguish. For the rest of this off-season, the Brandon Bostick play among others is relegated to obscurity as the Russell Wilson INT reigns supreme as the most recent and most important choke of the 2014-15 playoffs.
I'll say this about Wilson, I heard one of his interviews after the game, and frankly he handled this loss about as well as a person could that was in his situation. The Seahawks may be filled with punks and bozos, but Wilson is not one of them. As much as I want to believe the Seahawks will just go away after this, I think they're still going to be strong for many years and Wilson's play making ability is one of the reasons for that.
Did he blame God for his ****-up at the end? I can't imagine God would go from wanting Russell to win so badly two weeks ago to suddenly deciding that the dirty cheaters should get the title.
I'm hoping he explains that soon.
I think it is a case of God liking Butler more.
That God sure is fickle.
In all seriousness, Wilson basically said the right things after the game regarding that throw. I'd just like - even once - to see some consistency on this God stuff. God gets all the credit when things go well and none of the blame when things fall into the crapper.
Sorta like being married.
We do know that God wanted Reggie to be a Packer tho......
Wilson is a pretty good guy, especially compared to a few floaters they have on their team. He is also a very good QB, not in the Rodgers/Manning mold, but in the get it done, impressive leader kind of way. Having recently paid Sherman and Thomas and this off season paying Wilson will significantly impact Seattle's future success I think. I have little doubt Seattle sets out to make him the highest paid QB this spring, but is he worth it? He was not a very good QB vs Green Bay and had some bad moments yesterday too, including a poor last throw. No, I think Seattle's window is closing. Not slamming shut, but closing.
We do know that God wanted Reggie to be a Packer tho......
So God's a big white guy with a mustache? Makes sense.
I think, when it comes to telling football players where to sign, god has longer hair (but the same receding hairline) and no mustache.
The Sea-Chickens wouldn't even have been in the game except for a few insanely lucky catches, ESPECIALLY that circus-job by Kearse at the end.
Wlison's in the Tarkington-Flute mold. And there's a place for those guys in the NFL and I think Wilson's a good guy. Screw the rest those punks.
That God sure is fickle.
In all seriousness, Wilson basically said the right things after the game regarding that throw. I'd just like - even once - to see some consistency on this God stuff. God gets all the credit when things go well and none of the blame when things fall into the crapper.
Sorta like being married.
God can't beat man coverage.
"We have the ball and we're gonna score."
I don't think Wilson ever saw Butler.
Don't understand Carroll's explanation(s) of the call.
He was protecting the OC, Bevell. However he is the HC. He could have overruled Bevell. The problem wasn't so much that a pass was called. It was the type of pass called and the fact that Seattle was also trying to run clock. Even though they needed a touchdown instead of a FG. A play fake to Lynch probably would have made it easier too.
Rolling Russell Wilson out would have been a better idea as well. The reason Wilson lasted until the 3rd round of the draft is that he's listed at 5'11". He's probably a little shorter than that. The scouts were concerned that he'd have trouble seeing over the lineman and being able to see the field while in the pocket. Seattle has done a masterful job of rolling him out or getting him in space to get him into positions where he can see the field. On that play, they kept him in the pocket on a play that requires a quick read. He's a smart QB, but his height makes that call much riskier than for a guy like Brady who's almost 6 inches taller.
Why Seattle didn't run the read option against that defense with 3 guys lined out wide will be a question Wilson and Pete think about for a long damn time.
Wilson averaged 13 yards per carry. He ran the RO twice for 15 and 17 yards. Would have been a walk in for one of them.
The gutsy ballsy jeenious blew it.
The other gutsy ballsy jeenious not calling time out so the other ballsy jeenious could blow the game was a bit remarkable.
We're No. 2! We're No. 2! Yippee!
Super Bowl Wrap-up: What Was Pete Carroll Thinking?
by Bill Barnwell
I don’t think passing the ball was the right decision, but let me try to put together a case in which it might be a justifiable choice...
I’m not arguing that Carroll and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell should have been so time-conscious as to basically waste second down on a pass play. But I can understand why they would be overly sensitive about leaving too much time on the clock.
If you’re thinking about the game coming down to those three plays, you can also piece together a case that second down is the best time to throw the ball. As Wilson took that fateful second-down snap, there were 26 seconds left and Seattle had one timeout. Let’s pretend for a moment that the Seahawks decide to run the ball on second down. If they don’t get it, they have to call timeout, probably with about 22 seconds left. That means they’re stuck passing on third down with virtually no chance of running the ball, because it would be too difficult to line up after a failed run.
On the other hand, by throwing on second down, you could get two cracks at running the football while providing some semblance of doubt for the Patriots. If Wilson’s pass on second down is incomplete (and he avoids a sack, which seems likely given his ability to scramble), the clock stops with something like 20 seconds to go. That means you can run the ball on third down, use your final timeout, and then run the ball again on fourth down. All three plays come with the possibility of either throwing or running, which prevents the Patriots from selling out against one particular type of play. continue
It's an interesting exercise to try to make an argument for an awful call.
I'd understand it a little more if Carrol said he came out in 3WR and was hoping NE would come out in nickel making for an easier front to run against and then they panicked a bit when NE had a combo of 8 DL/LB in the box and went to a checkdown play instead of calling their last time out. But according to them it was pass all the way.
I think they completely expected NE to take a time out after the first down run and then made a rushed decision on second. Tough pill to swallow.
I thought this excerpt was interesting as well.
An Epic Swing
In terms of one play swinging a team’s chances of winning the Super Bowl, the second-down interception was probably the most important in the history of the NFL.
Burke’s Advanced Football Analytics model suggested after the game that the Patriots’ chances of winning jumped from 12 percent before the interception to 99 percent afterward, for a swing of 87 percentage points. It’s difficult for one play in any context to shift things that dramatically.
The Mike Jones tackle of Kevin Dyson at the 1-yard line in Super Bowl XXXIV came to mind, but that was a 23-16 game; even if Dyson had gotten in, Tennessee’s chances of winning would have risen only to about 50 percent, since the two teams would have gone to overtime (or Tennessee would have attempted a two-pointer, which would also have put its chances of winning near 50 percent). The most meaningful play before this one was probably Scott Norwood’s missed 47-yard field goal in a 20-19 game at the end of Super Bowl XXV, but there’s no way he had an 87 percent chance of making the game-winning field goal to begin with, so even reducing Buffalo’s chances to zero wouldn’t match Wilson’s interception.
Fantastic breakdown of the Butler INT with Gifs and play schematics.
Malcolm Butler’s Final Superbowl Interception on Russell Wilson
nflbreakdowns.com
Just rewatching the gif of the clinching INT, the DB did an outstanding job and did many subtle things so well - recognizing the route, getting an excellent jump on the ball, getting his shoulder into the receiver and (bobbling but) retaining possession of the ball. Imagine if he dropped it. I think there'd be a different SB winner.
I agree with others that this really is a SB the Packers should have been in and could no doubt have won.
But we "beat NE at HOME".
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. But they didn't.
But we "beat NE at HOME".
Right? We should get the Super Bowl. Parade at Lambeau tomorrow, y'all.
I think a parade is an excellent idea, regardless of the Super Bowl. I'll bring the confetti. Can someone track down Slocum to clean up after the horses?
Yeah, you know he would fukk it up. Poor horses. Having to deal with Brad Jones' stupid rushes up their collective flanks.
I think the DB jumped that gap. RW had to throw it between the tackle and guard. Which necessitated perfect timing and positioning. He led the receiver too much in order to clear the tackle/Dend contest going on. For perhaps the first time, Wilson's height had a negative effect on his play.
To my eye, Wilson's pass looked like a rising fastball. No idea if that's a product of his height, or just a bad throw.
He could've thrown it more to the numbers, or aimed at the gut. AMOF, I'm not sure why he didn't in that situation.
