I don't think it's the volume of things a QB has to do but the ability to do them quickly and often simultaneously that separates good from great. And then you need the physical tools. AR is a 1 in a billions guy.
Thanks for the link Hungry.
I don't disagree with the idea that in 5 years he might be considered the best ever (needs at least one more ring to get there though).
Here's one of many amazing stats about Rodgers. In his "development period" which I would define until he was about 40 games into his time as starter (midseason 2010), his TD to interception ratio was 2.36 to 1 (71 TDs; 30 interceptions). Keep in mind this is when he was developing as a QB. This would be the #2 mark alone all time for any QB that threw more than 1500 passes. Tom Brady's career mark is 2.80 and Manning is #3 at 2.26.
From mid 2010 on his TD to interception ratio is 5.96 (149 to 25). That's almost unfathomable. Favre's career ratio was 1.51. Rodgers ratio at his worst was 50% better than Favre and now its about 4 times what Favre's was. In the last 5 years, his ratio is better than Manning and Brady added together.
I really liked the part about how AR was running things from Feb-Jun in 2006 and 2007. No wonder they were so comfortable Crossing the Rubicon.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Good stuff.
Further proof Favor was a douche.
Was????
Love listening to Brandt too. He always gives great insight.
Agree, Hungry. Rodgers was ready for the leadership mantle. Sometimes when I hear stuff like this it makes me think "what coulda been" if Favre were made of better stuff. If Favre had Rodgers' or even Peyton's leadership and drive, there would be a couple more titles in Titletown.
I would argue Brent had the needed leadership/drive until Sherman came in. Sherm and Rossley basically let 4 do whatever he wanted, it got worse as time went on and the deification grew, spurred by the fluke game versus OAK after his father's death.
Go back and watch 95, 96, 97, 98. Brent wouldn't be denied.
I've always thought a key moment for Favre was when he was injured on a sack by LaVar Arrington in 2002. Never responded as well, consistently, under pass rush pressure afterwards. Keeping the Iron Man streak alive and the "just a kid out there playing ball" persona became everything to Brent and the clan.
Will never forgive Favre and Sherman for the 2003 Philly loss. The Super Bowl was there.
For all the fun with the 1996 and 2010 teams, has any team lost as many playoff backbreakers as the Packers in the last 20 years? The Rice non-fumble in 1998, the Eagles loss in 2003, the Giants loss in NFC championship in Favre's last game, the no-call face mask in 2009 at Arizona in OT, and of course the Seattle debacle OT game last year.
The Philly loss was awful, but I wonder how things would have played out long term had they won. The Carolina defense was no pushover that year and the Patriots would have been no gimme had they reached the Super Bowl.
If Sherman wins the Eagles game, he probably buys himself more time as Coach/GM which means we may not have Ted Thompson. There is no way they draft Rodgers if Sherman was the still the GM.
Unless they win the Super Bowl after the Eagles game, they were better off in the long run. Even if they go on to win the Super Bowl that year, would you trade that Super Bowl for the last 8 years of Rodgers as a starter and a Super Bowl win?
"has any team lost as many playoff backbreakers as the Packers in the last 20 years?"
I don't think the Packers are particularly snakebit. The difference between the Packers and others is mostly because the Packers have been in the playoffs more often than most teams.
@Packerpedia: Aaron Rodgersâ streak of 43 consecutive TD passes at home without an INT is twice as long as any other such streak in NFL history.
That's Gretzky territory.
Dude really, really needs to win another title or two or three. Srsly.
Originally Posted by cuqui:
@Packerpedia: Aaron Rodgersâ streak of 43 consecutive TD passes at home without an INT is twice as long as any other such streak in NFL history.
It is clearly a made up stat. RIDICULOUS!
He was asked yesterday (post practice at his locker) if he could go the year without an INT.
"That's a tough one to answer. I don't know if it's possible. I don't think it is. I enjoy the streak."
I'm tired of people asking Rodgers about it. You don't talk to a pitcher about it in the middle of a no-hitter.
zactly Dr Bob. people were talking about it at the opening day tailgate and I shushed and shut up every one of them.
Aaron Rodgers has played and completed 44 regular season games since the beginning of the 2009 season. In those 44 games:
Wins 40
Losses 4
Winning Percentage .909
Completions 984
Attempts 1451
Completion Percentage 67.8%
Yards 12512
TD 114
INT 18
QB Rating 115.3
They have won 20 straight regular season games in Lambeau. averaging 34.5 in those 20 games, never scoring less than 22 points. They have scored 50+ 3 times, 40+ 12 times, 30+ 24 times in those 44 games. AR has thrown for 4+ TDs 9 times, 3+ 24 times in those 44 games.
Wow. That is freaking amazing.
Here's a fun stat. Peyton Mannings TD to Int ratio for his career is 2.2. Tom Brady's is 2.8. If you take both guys and look at their stats starting in 2006 when the rules really started favoring QBs Manning goes to 2.6 and Brady to 3.6.
Aaron Rodgers ratio is 4.2 and no one has ever sniffed 4.0 other than Aaron Rodgers.
Hes the best QB to ever play the position. And it's not close.
Imagine how he would do if he had Randy Moss.
No need to kick Brady.
Also imagine AR12 and Jerry Rice. Total carnage.
quote:Aaron Rodgers has played and completed 44 regular season games since the beginning of the 2009 season.
I presume you mean home games.
Aaron Rodgers (29,814 yards in 3,628 attempts) can pass Johnny Unitas (3,695 att) as fastest ever to 30,000 yards pic.twitter.com/OKJlRk0d7V
â Randall Liu (@RLiuNFL) October 14, 2015
That is a helluva stat indicating Johnny U's greatness. Still holds record 50 years later! Hutson-esque
Unitas worked with Tedford? #holdingballtoohigh
So two passes from Rodgers to Janis should do it.
Rodgers has an entire potato on his shoulder this week
( because a chip wasn't enough...)
