It's Giants Week

Season is over, why bother?

Worth noting RE Kevin King. 

This is why it’s always treacherous to diagnose blame in the secondary without knowing the coverage. (And, you know, why half of #Packers Twitter is crazy for thinking Kevin King isn’t good. You had company.) https://t.co/TCfjoaBCLN

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) November 25, 2019

Adrian Amos also said there should have been help last night:https://t.co/1oDhGTHkNZ https://t.co/IJKfHNqxpe

— Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) November 25, 2019

Guessing Savage and Amos bit hard on crossers and left the middle vacant. 

King didn't have middle responsibility that's for sure. 

Dom Pettine Defensive Special !! 

1. It's Zone Coverage and he has his back to the QB half the time. That's like the one thing you never do. Watch him closely, King sees Kittle and guesses he's hitting the corner route, so he does speed turn (in zone coverage) and completely loses track of him while Kittle runs the post. 

2. He sees Amos (?) break on that intermediate crosser, or at least he's facing him and makes no adjustment.

3. Watch Jaire on the other side, he's facing the QB, bites slightly on the RB coming out of the backfield, in general is reading the QB and paroling his quarter.

The guy has no idea what he's doing. He's not playing disciplined football, he's guessing and he's guessing wrong A LOT. That speed turn into the wrong route is nothing new, he does it frequently and WRs know how to burn him with that. Here it is plain as day:

 This is exactly what they're wanting. JG is looking for either TE the whole way. They got KK to turn his back and as soon as Kittle sees that he adjusts to the post and JG launches it. Yes they suckered the Safety underneath with the crosser, but the play was either going to either spot and Amos (?) broke on what he thought was right. It is a well designed play meant to beat this specific coverage, but King looks absolutely lost. 

Yup, it's King.

Today is the day GB finally became a contender:

The #Packers are promoting OT Yosh Nijman to the 53-man roster from the practice squad, per source. He fills OL Cole Madison's spot after Madison went to IR with a torn ACL.

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 26, 2019

The trophies guy would be so proud.  RIP trophies guy.

I'd like to see him at OT and wonder if that's what MLF was alluding to regarding who is replacing Bulaga.

My mistake.  Long live trophies guy.

New York Giants safety Jabrill Peppers is likely to miss time after the team announced he suffered a transverse process fracture in his back on Sunday against the Chicago Bears.

Wide receiver Golden Tate also was injured in the game, suffering a concussion because of the way he landed on his 23-yard touchdown reception in the fourth quarter of the 19-14 loss at Chicago.

There was no timetable set on Peppers' return, although the Giants believe it should be this season. It will depend on his pain tolerance.

Peppers was in severe pain after the game Sunday. He said the injury occurred when he was hit on a kickoff return with no time remaining in the first half.

With Tate now in doubt for Sunday against the Green Bay Packers, the Giants face the prospects of another week without their full arsenal. They have not played a game this season with Tate, wide receiver Sterling Shepard, running back Saquon Barkley and tight end Evan Engram working alongside rookie quarterback Daniel Jones.

I assume Turner is moving to RT and Patrick moving into RG?

Give some snaps to Yosh!

There's plenty of other reasons to criticize King's play this season.

LeRoy shows that the safeties and not Kevin King were at fault on TE George Kittle's 61-yard touchdown and examines how the 49ers put tremendous pressure on backup right tackle Alex Light with their rush scheme. https://t.co/9TCxD4zdFB

— JSOnline - Packers (@js_packers) November 26, 2019

Never has there been more time spent belaboring one play. The game was over long before Kevin King or Darnell Savage blew this coverage.

If AR and this offense don't torch the Jints then they need more help than many want to admit to. 

In games when Davante Adams is targeted 10 or more times, the Pack is 1-3

In games when he's playing and he's targeted 9 or les times the Pack is 3-0.

The Packer fans and empty seats will probably outnumber the Giant fans who bother to show up.

michiganjoe posted:

LeRoy shows that the safeties and not Kevin King were at fault on TE George Kittle's 61-yard touchdown and examines how the 49ers put tremendous pressure on backup right tackle Alex Light with their rush scheme. https://t.co/9TCxD4zdFB

— JSOnline - Packers (@js_packers) November 26, 2019

Yup, safeties bit hard. Huge mistake when your first responsibility is quarters coverage. "Stop the plane not the train"- LB

Nice play design by horse faces kid. 

Isn't this thread about the upcoming game vs. Giants??

The Red & Mold debacle at the Big Zipper is a couple threads over.

I have NFI what to think about this team anymore. Which team shows up on Sunday? The one that played the Vikings, Cowboys, Chiefs & Raiders? Or the one that played the Chargers & Niners?

8-3 and they are who they're. get over it

Might as well just start preparing for the low scoring down to the wire "shootout."

Last field goal wins. Bet the under with the Giants to cover.

Chongo posted:

Never has there been more time spent belaboring one play. The game was over long before Kevin King or Darnell Savage blew this coverage.

You obviously don't remember the 20-plus page thread on going for 2 at the end of regulation of the Arizona playoff game.

Any chance this game will be flexed?

Hopefully Giants just forfeit

NumberThree posted:

Might as well just start preparing for the low scoring down to the wire "shootout."

Last field goal wins. Bet the under with the Giants to cover.

I’d prefer field goals to lame play calls on fourth and one.

Boris posted:

Hopefully Giants just forfeit

Another perfect rating for AR!

LaFleur has to figure out what he wants this offense to look like.  Unfortunately, he's got to do it with a reshuffled O-line.  I'm hoping he cans the shotgun spread crap with low probability 50/50 throws down the sideline (I know part of that was a function of the Cover 3 the 49ers were playing).   Play time/snaps have to increase for A. Jones, the younger tight ends and Vitale. 

50K I think MLF knows what he wants the offense to look like but right now he doesn't have anything at TE and for the WR corps besides Adams. He keeps saying that he will run the ball and I would fully expect a huge emphasis on the running game this week and just break the will of the Giants.

This team won games without Adams and the same TE's. The constant bitching about the receivers is bullshit 

The Packers...after a bye week were 100% unprepared to play. 

That is strictly 100% on the head coach. Rookie HC or not, that's the kind of shit that gets you terminated if you've been at a place a couple years. 

Which team shows up this week? Jekyll or Hyde?

So if you sleep walk through your first 2 days of work after a week off, that's on your Boss?  When is it the player's responsibility to be ready to play?

Matt LaFleur says he wouldn’t rule RT Bryan Bulaga out at this point for Sunday’s game against the Giants.

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 27, 2019

My guess is Turner to RT and Patrick at RG.

Boris posted:

The Packers...after a bye week were 100% unprepared to play. 

That is strictly 100% on the head coach. Rookie HC or not, that's the kind of shit that gets you terminated if you've been at a place a couple years. 

Which team shows up this week? Jekyll or Hyde?

MLF's biggest responsibility moving forward is to get Rodgers to stop locking in on Adams and get Aaron Jones involved in the passing game and AT LEAST 20-25 touches per game. He is simply too talented for anything less.

Last week:

Adams targeted 12 times.

Jones: 0.

That's unacceptable.

michiganjoe posted:

Matt LaFleur says he wouldn’t rule RT Bryan Bulaga out at this point for Sunday’s game against the Giants.

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 27, 2019

My guess is Turner to RT and Patrick at RG.

That's Right Guard Patrick to you! 

Sounds like a pretty frustrated dude..

The full Saquon Barkley quote. Clearly he's tired of hearing about his health and shutting it down.

"Did I look hurt? No. So let’s stop making an excuse that I’m hurt. I’m not hurt!

"Let’s stop making an excuse I’m not 100 percent. Nobody is 100 percent. ...

— Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan) November 27, 2019

Giants starting TE looking pretty iffy as well. 

TE Evan Engram (foot) still not practicing. Working with trainer on side. No S Jabrill Peppers (back) and WR Golden Tate (concussion) at practice either.

Also, OLB Kareem Martin (knee) appeared to have been designated for return from IR since he’s back at practice. #Giants

— Jordan Raanan (@JordanRaanan) November 27, 2019

packerboi posted:

 

Edit: And WTF happened to Saquon Barkley?

 

He's been playing with a high ankle sprain. Those tend to linger without rest. 

If there is a "get right" game for a struggling RB, this might be it! 

Source: The #Packers claimed formerly retired #Patriots OT Jared Veldheer. He’s back and some insurance for injured Bryan Bulaga.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) November 27, 2019