New injury designation rule is probably going to lead to many questionable posts this year.
FML....Belicheat wins again.
ChilliJon posted:New injury designation rule is probably going to lead to many questionable posts this year.
this year?
McGinn pens a game preview at JSO/Packersnews:
Preview: Packers at Jaguars
When: Noon Sunday.
Where: EverBank Field.
TV: Fox.
Radio: AM-620
Series: Packers lead, 3-2.
Line: Packers by 5 1/2.
Weather: Low 90s, partly cloudy.
Surface: Grass.
Coaches: Green Bay’s Mike McCarthy (112-62-1, .643) vs. Jacksonville’s Gus Bradley (12-36, .250).FIVE THINGS TO WATCH
BELATED DEBUT: DE Dante Fowler will be making his NFL debut after a season-ending knee injury in May 2015 wiped out his rookie season. He was the third player drafted in ’15. “They’ve really struggled with pass rush and Dante Fowler is supposed to add that,” an executive in personnel for an AFC team said. “He didn’t look all the way back in preseason but he’s a guy that can come off the edge and do some things. He’s got the best ability but he really hasn’t done much.” Fowler looked dominant in some practices but was shut down by RT Demar Dotson of Tampa Bay when the two teams conducted joint practices Aug. 17-18. “I didn’t know he was as fast as he looked,” Jaguars DT Sen’Derrick Marks told the Florida Times-Union. “The thing we’re trying to teach him is he can’t just be fast. Julius Peppers was fast and is fast, and he still needed a move. Dante has a lot of explosion. He has to develop the power aspect of his game.”
ON GUARD: Last season, the hard count of Aaron Rodgers drew 23 offsides penalties against the defense, including eight in the first three games. “Dante (Fowler) bit on one this morning,” defensive coordinator Todd Wash said Wednesday. “It’s a situation where we show them. We listen to it in our rooms. We also bring our quarterbacks in and we let them listen to it exactly how Aaron does it. He is very unique in what he does. Chad (Henne) and Brandon (Allen) do a great job in practice of really simulating that, and we are going to need that with our young rushers.”
ON THE RISE: QB Blake Bortles improved his passer rating last season to 88.2 after a rookie mark of 69.5. “He’s a rhythm quarterback,” one personnel man said. “If he’s in good rhythm he may throw three or four touchdowns, but if he gets into a bad rhythm he may throw three interceptions. He’s that kind of guy.” Does Bortles have difficulty reading defenses? “Yes, he does,” said the scout. “But it’s not any one thing in particular that he struggles with … I just think the quarterback has got to play. Is he going to play on a different level? He can’t have those ups and downs like he had last year.”
PERIMETER MATCHUPS: The Packers’ youthful secondary will be challenged by one of the NFL’s leading corps of wide receivers. “(Allen) Robinson is your go-to guy,” one scout said. “Third down, red zone. He’s a mismatch. He runs solid routes. He uses his body very well. He doesn’t have great speed but he’s a 4.5 guy. He can get deep and beat you. He really came into his own last year … (Allen) Hurns is a possession, move-the-chains guy. He won’t stretch the field and beat you deep … (Marqise) Lee is a speedster, down the field, vertical type … Rashad Greene is a slot possession guy. He’s just a good, solid, outlet-type wide receiver.”
POWER GAME: This will be the first appearance for Eddie Lacy against the Jaguars. “I think Mike McCarthy wants to run the football,” Wash said. “If you look at past success he has had, if he runs the ball over 20, 25 times a game, their percentage of wins is up. We are built to stop the run … With Lacy, you better have a tackling plan. He is a big man. As a matter of fact, I think he is bigger than some of the defensive ends we are going to have playing (Fowler is 250, Yannick Ngakoue is 246). He is a physical, downhill type of guy, and their running scheme matches his style.”
VIEWS OF THE GAME
BOB MCGINN
Thousands of Packers fans should deflect the impact of what normally would be an excited, supportive opening-day home crowd. The heat, especially in their dark green jerseys, could wear on the visitors. The youthful Jaguars figure to be better two or three months from now but the odds do and should favor the Packers in this spot.
TOM SILVERSTEIN
This will be a game decided on pass protection. If Lane Taylor proves to be a liability, the Packers are in trouble. If the Jaguars aren’t better up front than they were last year, they’re in trouble. Could be a long day for both quarterbacks.
Packers 26, Jaguars 17
MICHAEL COHEN
Regardless of practice reps, there was always going to be an in-game adjustment period for the Packers’ offense this season. The additions of Jared Cook and Jordy Nelson will take time to mesh, and the absence of Josh Sitton may pose problems early in the game. Jacksonville’s offense can put up points, but in the end Aaron Rodgers gets it done.
Packers 29, Jaguars 23
PETE DOUGHERTY
Though they’re a 51/2-point favorite, the Packers easily could lose this game. First there’s the Florida heat that could wear down the Packers’ thin defensive line in the second half. The Packers’ offensive line could be in for a rough first month after Josh Sitton was abruptly cut at the end of camp. But the guess here is that Aaron Rodgers will outplay Blake Bortles by just enough to be the difference.
Packers 27, Jaguars 24
RYAN WOOD
Jacksonville’s heat would be a problem, except the Packers are thin on depth and experience on the defensive line and at inside linebacker. The center of the Packers defense will be vulnerable against the run, which could allow the Jaguars to shorten the game by running clock and keep Aaron Rodgers on the sideline. With a lot of moving parts on both lines, except the Packers to improve as the season progresses.
Jaguars 24, Packers 21
"With Lacy, you better have a tackling plan. He is a big man. As a matter of fact, I think he is bigger than some of the defensive ends we are going to have playing (Fowler is 250, Yannick Ngakoue is 246). He is a physical, downhill type of guy, and their running scheme matches his style.”
Todd Wash isn't buying what Tony Hortons selling.
McGinn on the Sitton situation. I know the the thead locked, but if they struggle on the offensive line this story is only going to blow up more. McGinn calls Packers "incompetent" at one point in the article.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...ton-gambit/90149052/
oh big bad Bob.
FU
I didn't click the link. fu
MichiganPacker2 posted:McGinn on the Sitton situation. I know the the thead locked, but if they struggle on the offensive line this story is only going to blow up more. McGinn calls Packers "incompetent" at one point in the article.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...ton-gambit/90149052/
Like him or not, McGinn tossed out some interesting information. The timing of this decision was horrible and stunk of, well, incompetence. GB will survive because of an abundance of talent... but the decision to release Sitton remains a horrible one. TT couldn't have ****ed that up more if he tried.
If the Vikings or Bears pulled a boner like that this board would be having a field day over it.
In July 2010 Bob went FULL doomsday on the Packer OL chances to hold up.
From his article:
"Bulaga was at left tackle exclusively in May and June and the coaches say there are no plans to move him. Some scouts doubt he has the arm length or feet to play left tackle".
Way back then. Some "scouts" doubt Bulagas ability to play LT. Bob's been running the "according to a respected scout" line for a while.
Here is Bob McGinns 2010 mock draft on April 2010.
Bob's pick for the Steelers five selections before GB He said this about Bryan Bulaga in his mock at number 18 in the draft. "Bashed from pillar to post with off-the-field embarrassments, the Steelers cannot risk the slightest character imperfection. Bulaga is about as safe as it gets"
His job is to write. Lots of stuff. To draw response. As far as I'm concerned he can go **** himself because he's pandering to a JS contingent that can't wait for Ted to fail. Even after all these years.
"Now is the summer of our discontent / Made glorious winter by this snow of Alberta"
"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will.” - Vince Lombardi
I full remember what happened the last time GB lost a ball breaking playoff loss in Arizona that could have easily gone the other way.
Houston or bust.
Pakrz posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:Like him or not, McGinn tossed out some interesting information. very big click-bait
FTFY....
Cavetoad posted:oh big bad Bob.
FU
I didn't click the link. fu
That's it, bury that head even deeper in the sand. Whatever it takes to block out the opposing opinion. Especially if that opinion comes from a person who clearly has more access to information about the topic.
Print media is mostly dead, radio reporters are in a permanent vegetative state, so we're left with internet media. This has led to a style of writing that is based solely to illicit response, and facts are not important, and most sources are highly dubious.
McGinn is just another in a miles-long line of "journalists" that write opinion pieces that appear to have a basis in fact, but are anything but. They think they are ushering in the "new era" of sports reporting, but it's actually a technique that's been used for a long time...
Finally it's here ! Packer football is back !
#Packers OT David Bakhtiari (back), added to the injury report late Saturday, is set to play against the #Jaguars, source said. Minor scare.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 11, 2016
Very good news.
MichiganPacker2 posted:McGinn on the Sitton situation. I know the the thead locked, but if they struggle on the offensive line this story is only going to blow up more. McGinn calls Packers "incompetent" at one point in the article.
Reading between all those lines there, seems to me young Eliot isn't looking too good.
Oh yeah.
Bob really believes what he writes / says....at the moment, but then may believe something totally different the very next time he writes / talks. I heard him on a podcast just before cuts predicting the final 53 & he said, talking of Packers brass, "these are not stupid people, they see things far in advance of when we do". Given that, wouldn't McGinn just have to believe that something happened within the week leading up to cuts with Sitton that he has not learned about? No, he is pretty much calling the Packer brass "stupid" in this article.
It was always probable that Bakhtiari was going to play.
MichiganPacker2 posted:McGinn on the Sitton situation. I know the the thead locked, but if they struggle on the offensive line this story is only going to blow up more. McGinn calls Packers "incompetent" at one point in the article.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...ton-gambit/90149052/
The Packers can go 11-5 without Sitton.
McGinn judges the Packers based on whether they agree with his opinions and live up to his predictions. But God forbid, if the Packers make him look bad, the fans are going to hear about it.
Pakrz posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:McGinn on the Sitton situation. I know the the thead locked, but if they struggle on the offensive line this story is only going to blow up more. McGinn calls Packers "incompetent" at one point in the article.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...ton-gambit/90149052/
Like him or not, McGinn tossed out some interesting information. The timing of this decision was horrible and stunk of, well, incompetence. GB will survive because of an abundance of talent... but the decision to release Sitton remains a horrible one. TT couldn't have ****ed that up more if he tried.
If the Vikings or Bears pulled a boner like that this board would be having a field day over it.
Basically McGinn's biggest point is they got nothing for Sitton and the failure to have a plan in the first place. Can't deny that. The more details come out the more muddied this whole thing becomes. The crux is more or less what we as influence peddlers hashed out.
Sources said the decision was made due largely to management’s fear that Sitton, unwisely having been told of trade talks, would become incorrigible and threaten locker-room chemistry. If Bakhtiari and others actually did sign new deals, they feared it could get worse.
If Sitton were to become a malcontent, he’s not the kind of person that could have concealed it for long. Word probably would have gotten out, and then other teams might have considered him persona non grata for 2017. He couldn’t afford for that to happen.
The problem becomes that these are all hypothetical instead of any solid proof one way or the other. As Boris correctly ranted, the FO definitely screwed the pooch on compensation. As far as the decision about Sitton's play, I guess that remains to be seen.
Unfortunately the other effect of this is the large turd balloon that's going to hang over this entire season because the FO did exactly the opposite of Vajeen Central by under reacting in negotiations.
cuqui posted:Reading between all those lines there, seems to me young Eliot isn't looking too good.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, and it was one mention but it sure the **** pointed right at Wonder Boy.
Bad Bob also said Nick McDonald had a bright future for the Packers. Who in the hell is/was Nick McDonald?
Shows how much he really knows.
Lots of questions remain unanswered. Don't know why the organization felt such urgency to dump Sitton or why they believed he could become a locker room malcontent. Forget the trade- TT does nothing and he gets stellar LG play for a year and a likely fourth round compensatory pick. Bob's piece really doesn't provide much new information or offer any real clarity.
ammo posted:Bad Bob also said Nick McDonald had a bright future for the Packers. Who in the hell is/was Nick McDonald?
Shows how much he really knows.
Bob's been wrong plenty of times, but its safe to say he knows more than 99% of the people who don't work for the team.
Just trying to rile up the already riled up natives and get the pitchforks out.
We will never know the entire story to our satisfaction. We may know it all at this point and because we all believe there has to be more, not be willing to accept the story.
I'll be happy when the games start and we can focus on the games (more). Then at least the proof is in the puddin. Oh yea.
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I'll be happy when the games start and we can focus on the games (more). Then at least the proof is in the puddin. Oh yea.
Last minute $240 NFL Pudding Ticket purchase.
Bob is just stirring the pot, and he prefers to do it right before the team plays to try to prove he's right and see what impact he has. Releasing Sitton when they did may have actually helped him -- the Bears and others now knew what they had on the line and many wanted to upgrade. If they had done it sooner, teams might have waited to see how the draft picks worked out and/or didn't have guys injured. I'm not sure Sitton would have seen that much money if he had been cut in, say, June.
If Bak can't go, I wonder if they don't move Tretter to LT and Barclay (oh boy) to C. Tough to hang a rookie on the left side next to a guy who's also fairly untested...