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Jon Machota@jonmachota
Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy sounded frustrated while explaining some of the questionable coaching decisions made in today’s 41-16 loss to Washington: “I’m very confident in our players, put them in position to make big plays.”


I'm guessing the press covering the Cowboys are a wee bit more willing to criticize the self-proclaimed HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL NFL COACH than the Packer press amen corner that lavished praise on MM throughout his time in Green Bay.

@SteveLuke posted:

I'm guessing the press covering the Cowboys are a wee bit more willing to criticize the self-proclaimed HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL NFL COACH than the Packer press amen corner that lavished praise on MM throughout his time in Green Bay.

Yeah....well he did win a Super Bowl in Green Bay. So he earned a modicum of respect up here.

He hasn't even won so much as a division title in Dallas. Yet.....

Hell.....he hasn't even won 4 games yet in Dallas but it's early.....

He has a SB ring as a HC, and they lost Dak for the year. He will get this year and into '21 before the seat gets hot. Ol' yellar teeth won't admit a mistake that quickly. He kept Garrett for eleventy-billion seasons.

Whatever you think of MM, the injuries they've had to the offensive line have been unbelievable. I believe they've lost all 5 of their starting OL from the beginning of the year. They also obviously lost Dak, and played without their backup QB for several games as well.

No coach is likely to be successful under those conditions.

@BrainDed posted:

Yes odd..  Also odd how horrific game management follows him too.

Anyone notice how Mac's bad "luck" when it comes to Special Teams seems to have also followed him down to Dallas?

Perhaps Mac should call up old friends Shawn Slocum and Ron Zook to coach up the Cowboys Special Teams unit as neither Shawn nor Ronnie seem to have landed another NFL coaching gig after their times in Green Bay came to an end and should be free to impart their wisdom.

Dallas was 2-3 with a point differential of -17 thru the game Dak went out for the season. Since then they're 1-5 with a point differential of -91. That averages to -3/game with and -15/game without.

They're not a great team by any means with Dak, but they're a dumpster fire without. 

I’d imagine it depends who’s available at the time they pick.  If they like the QB(s) available long term than they like Dak, I can see them pulling the trigger. Then they can franchise Dak for a year or try a trade/sign type deal with another team.

My guess is they stand pat.

Cowpokes about to kick a 35 yard field goal with 2:02 left in the half and holding 3 timeouts. Can close to within 14-13 of the Ravens before the half.

However, the play clock runs out for a delay of game penalty while Mac watches like a deer in the headlights from the sideline.

Pokes moved back 5 yards and miss the kick ... then Mac gets visibly upset ... as if he did not have power to call a TO to avert the delay of game.

Baltimore then marches right down the field to add a FG before half on his soft ass D -- coordinated by Mac's buddy Mike Nolan.

The Ravens have >160 yards rushing ... at the half.

Never change Mac, never change.

Last edited by SteveLuke

There has never been a HC in the history of the NFL that swelled a bigger erection over the thought of attempting a 55 yd FG after calling a nonsense all go routes on 3rd and less than 10 than Mike McCarthy.
He’s relentless about 50 plus yd FG attempts. It’s been his deal forever.

Wait. Where have I heard this before about a MM offense???

Biggest hole in the game plan: This might not be the biggest hole in a game that was such a disaster, but why didn’t Ezekiel Elliott get the ball more? He had more yards in the first quarter than he had in the entire Thanksgiving loss to Washington

Last edited by packerboi

At 1 point Zeke was 11/67 -- 6 yards a carry.

Why in the fuck was Pollard in the game?

Does Zeke not have the lung capacity to keep going?

I'll say 1 thing....the Dallas OL didn't help much. They had 1st & goal at the one yd line & to MM's credit he ran Zeke 3 straight times & couldn't get in. It was more on the OL but give MM credit there.

They did score the TD on a 4th down pass.

Just one mans opinion.....

@SteveLuke posted:

Just so nice that the NFL is beginning to awaken to this reality.

I think what fooled a lot of people is that it wasn't just the one Super Bowl title. MM was the head coach of 4 teams that made NFC title games in 10 years. There were no offensive or defensive starters that were on both the 2007 and 2016 teams and only one common starter between the 2007 and 2014 NFC title game teams (AJ Hawk). There were only 3 players that were on all 4 title teams and none of them started in 2007 (Rodgers, Crosby, and Tramon Williams).

If you looked at it this way, you would think a coach that consistently gets his team to the NFC title game with the roster completely turning over must be good.

Of course, the fact that he never coached a team without a top 20 QB all-time is the reason he won. Obviously, he was overrated based on having Favre/Rodgers at Green Bay, but I don't think he's as bad as he appears this year. The Cowboys have been decimated by injuries. If he's back next year, they'll be a 8-9 win team if people stay healthy. I think he's good at developing a good foundation to build a team on and his consistency and loyalty are strengths in many contexts. It's that those traits are also his biggest weaknesses. He doesn't adjust well during a game (hence the scripted plays looked so good) and he sticks with crappy assistants too long.

The scary thing is that if he even had remotely competent special teams in 2014, he probably has two Super Bowl wins as is considered a HOF coach.

I think what fooled a lot of people is that it wasn't just the one Super Bowl title. MM was the head coach of 4 teams that made NFC title games in 10 years. There were no offensive or defensive starters that were on both the 2007 and 2016 teams and only one common starter between the 2007 and 2014 NFC title game teams (AJ Hawk). There were only 3 players that were on all 4 title teams and none of them started in 2007 (Rodgers, Crosby, and Tramon Williams).

If you looked at it this way, you would think a coach that consistently gets his team to the NFC title game with the roster completely turning over must be good.

Of course, the fact that he never coached a team without a top 20 QB all-time is the reason he won. Obviously, he was overrated based on having Favre/Rodgers at Green Bay, but I don't think he's as bad as he appears this year. The Cowboys have been decimated by injuries. If he's back next year, they'll be a 8-9 win team if people stay healthy. I think he's good at developing a good foundation to build a team on and his consistency and loyalty are strengths in many contexts. It's that those traits are also his biggest weaknesses. He doesn't adjust well during a game (hence the scripted plays looked so good) and he sticks with crappy assistants too long.

The scary thing is that if he even had remotely competent special teams in 2014, he probably has two Super Bowl wins as is considered a HOF coach.

I agree that the Dallas offense has been decimated by injuries this year and that if Dak and the Oline return in 2021, Mac will have that offense up and cranking.

However, the Dallas defense has not suffered nearly as many injuries and is still giving up an incredible 30.7 points to offenses per game -- good for 32nd in the NFL by >1 point.

And given Mac's legendary loyalty to his staff (2014 special teams coordinator Slocum being Ex. A) and his particular affection for his current defensive coordinator Mike Nolan I foresee a high-powered offense coupled with a poor defense down in Big D as long as Mac is in charge.

Should look familiar to Packer fans.

Certainly won't make Jerry happy. Browns-Giants moved into the slot.

Last edited by michiganjoe

The line between HOF and dope is very fine.

At the end of the regular season in 2011, MM had won 21 of 22 games. His teams scored more than 30 points in 14 of those games and over 40 points in 8 of those games. He was running one of the most productive offenses in NFL history with what turned out to be only one Hall of Fame player on that side of the ball. His best running back was James Starks, and not a single one of his assistant coaches ever ended up succeeding outside of Green Bay. He had seemingly reigned in Favre in 2007 to get him to not play rocketball (until he reverted by throwing a game losing interception in the title game just like he eventually did for the Vikings two years later). Rodgers had developed from a prospect that a lot of teams thought was going to be a Tedford bust into an MVP. How could you not look at all that and not think that MM was the main reason for all that.

MM is still better than many give him credit for, but in the end he was just a slightly above average coach who happened to have a QB that might even have been better than we thought he was. As I've said in other threads, if you could someone swap out Favre's 16 years and replace them with Rodgers from 1992-2007 how many titles do the Packers win? I'd say somewhere between 5 and 7. MFL is good, but Holmgren was still the best Packer play-caller in my time watching the team.

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