They do have to be on the line of scrimmage, yeah?
Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.
But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!
BrainDed
you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty
7 players need to be on LOS. Doesn't matter who. The 2 players on the end are eligible by default unless wearing a wrong number jersey. (Split end)
You can have the guard or tackle snap the ball all day long if you wanted to.
H5.. The jets lined up there LT on the right side of the RT. The tight end on left side was essentially the split end as we was the end and wearing the right number, thus eligible.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
BrainDed
you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty
No it's not, as long as you have 7 on the line.
Think of those weird formations some teams use for punts were half the team is lined up away from the punter.. It doesn't matter. Illegal formation is based on the number of players on LOS, not where on LOS.
I don't what all the worry with Sherrod is all about, last year Buck Cherry got schooled by Ziggy Ansah don't forget
Originally Posted by Packy:
Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.
But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!
I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.
riveting repartee
Originally Posted by Music City:
This week, it's RTFB...
With the lions secondary? Nah...I rather see another 200 plus yards for Jordy and several more TDs for Cobb or visa versa and more passes to D Adams. However, I am all for mixing it up. The last thing I want to see is the Packers trying to establish a running game against the lion D-line - I'll have another freakin seizure if that happens.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.
WOW.. Just WOW.
I worry about the Lions pass rush on turf. I think we will come out playing very fast, no huddle quick passing game trying to tire their pass rushers. My biggest fear is that we attempt to run, are not successful & get into third & long situations.....that would be very dangerous this week.
It's very easy to envision Derick Sherrod being a human turnstile in this game and I hope MM continues to give him plenty of help. AR gets time and the Lion secondary is extremely vulnerable.
quote:st year Buck Cherry got schooled by Ziggy Ansah don't forget
I'd like to forget last year's game in Detroit.
Originally Posted by BrainDed:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
BrainDed
you said the LT moved to the right and was off the LOS, that's a penalty
No it's not, as long as you have 7 on the line.
If the LT is lined up off the LOS and did not report, that is a penalty... no matter how many players are on the LOS.
Originally Posted by Satori:
riveting repartee
Are you not entertained?
I expect the Lions will try to use a similar gameplan to what Seattle used...lots of zone reads for Bush/Bell and we will probably see Golden Taint on that Jet Sweep a few times.
The problem is: Seattle is a very talented AND a very disciplined team, Detroit just has a few talented players that aren't disciplined. It won't be easy by any means, but it will be the same story as always...we will pressure Stafford into making mistakes and Rodgers will carve up their secondary regardless of the pressure.
Hopefully, Rodgers can get a couple offside penalties with the hard count too.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
Originally Posted by Packy:
Always thought the George Plimpton book, Paper Lion, was cool. And, respected, Alex Karras. And, Barry Sanders seemed alright.
But, who cares about them...GO PACK GO!!!
I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.
That's slightly less reprehensible than the fans who adopted the Vikings as their 2nd favorite due to Favre/Jennings, etc.
I don't see the Lions as being much different from the Jets really. Stafford is a more veteran QB than Geno and CJ is obviously more talented than Erik Dekker, but really they're built very similar. RB-by-committee with a speed back and a power back, tall #1 WR, very little at TE, and a D that is completely reliant on the front 7 to do all the work.
Originally Posted by ammo:
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
I don't entirely know why, but my 2nd favorite team is probably the Lions.
WOW.. Just WOW.
What the heck does that mean?
I tend to like teams that are inept. As an example, I'd be more inclined to be a Red Sox or Cubs fan (Red Sox before winning their first WS since selling Ruth) than other teams.
I do not like their present dirty play. I like their Thanksgiving tradition. Loved Barry Sanders. Liked other players (Lem Barney).
If I have to tell you, you still won't get it.
I would be very surprised that if you told me, I would not "get it."
I may not agree, but my guess is I would understand your point.
I could anticipate one argument being it is natural to hate division rivals. Not everyone feels that way. I root against division rivals because I want the Packers in the playoffs. But if, as an example, the Packers are out of the playoffs, I tend to root for their division so as to represent it well.
I will never cheer for the queens or barz. Under any circumstances.
Lions have been so bad for so long that if the Pack is out of the playoffs, I'd cheer on the kittys.
#Packers practice: CB Casey Hayward, LB Brad Jones, LB Andy Mulumba sidelined. S Micah Hyde and T Bryan Bulaga working.
Every time I go back and watch the Jets game I find more and more examples of Jamari Lattimore making plays I haven't seen Packers ILB's make in a long time.
I think we've accepted the fact that Hawk is a staple (for whatever reason) but Lattimore needs to start. He makes plays. If Jones continues to start over him then there is a serious coaching issue.
Tight end reception production: Through two games, the Lions aren't using their tight ends a ton in the passing game. Combined, Joseph Fauria, Eric Ebron and Brandon Pettigrew have six catches for 93 yards. Despite the Lions calling for balance, the tight ends seem to be at the very least the third or fourth option on almost every play behind Calvin Johnson (13 receptions, 247 yards), Golden Tate (11 receptions, 150 yards) and either Bush or Bell (combined 15 catches for 111 yards).
Surprised by drafting Ebron, he's been this quiet. Apparently had a fairly quiet training camp as well. Many a Packer fan weren't happy when the Lions drafted him.
CB Casey Hayward, LB Brad Jones, LB Andy Mulumba sidelined. Hyde and Bulaga working.
Hayward with the recurring hammy? Sounds like Mulumba will be heading to IR with ACL tear. Jones still sidelined, coaches decision, or maybe he has cranial rectitis. Nice to see that Hyde and Bulaga are practicing.
Originally Posted by Esox:
Originally Posted by Music City:
This week, it's RTFB...
With the lions secondary? Nah...I rather see another 200 plus yards for Jordy and several more TDs for Cobb or visa versa and more passes to D Adams. However, I am all for mixing it up. The last thing I want to see is the Packers trying to establish a running game against the lion D-line - I'll have another freakin seizure if that happens.
They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.
#Packers right tackle Bryan Bulaga practiced today, as he did last week. His left knee is still in a brace
Originally Posted by Music City:
They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.
They weren't effective doing that last week against a better secondary then the battered one they face this week and the passing game did just fine.
Main things are Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball faster (2 of his 3 sacks were on him) and eliminate turnovers. I actually believe the opposite will happen. GB will come out throwing, Detoilet will give all the safety help they can and that will leave 7 in the box. Which then Lacy or Starks can hopefully exploit.
Packers injury report:
Bulaga (knee) limited
Hayward (glute), DNP
Hyde (knee), limited
B. Jones (quad), DNP
Mulumba (knee), Out
McCarthy: Optimistic about Bulaga this week.
McCarthy will only be as descriptive with Casey Hayward as calling it a "glute strain."
Originally Posted by packerboi:
Tight end reception production: Through two games, the Lions aren't using their tight ends a ton in the passing game.
Thanks for the blurb and its not unusual for teams to hold a few things under wraps for their divisional foes who know them really well. I think we'll see plenty of TE passing action on Sunday
Interesting point Satan. Wonder if the same holds true for GB who hasn't been that productive at TE either. GB should have a healthy Bostick/Rodgers this week.
What do you have against riveting?quote:riveting repartee
Originally Posted by Music City:
They're going to need to run the ball to set up the pass or Rodgers gets killed.
Music, I can agree that if the Packers do not mix it up, then Rodgers could get killed, but I rather see the pass set up the run.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Thanks for the blurb and its not unusual for teams to hold a few things under wraps for their divisional foes who know them really well. I think we'll see plenty of TE passing action on Sunday
So...ahhh... what's the chances of the Packers doing that with Janis? Just askin'
If they're going to run the ball, make certain to run it on the side where the players can run-block.
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke to the media following Wednesday's practice. Here are the highlights from his news conference:
Packers injury report
OLB Andy Mulumba (knee, out), ILB Brad Jones (quadriceps, did not practice), CB Casey Hayward (glute, DNP), T Bryan Bulaga (knee, limited in practice), DB Micah Hyde (knee, limited).
On Bulaga:
Bryan went through all the walk-throughs. I don't know the exact amount of reps.
More optimistic about Bulaga?
Absolutely.
On Hayward:
Casey has a glute strain.
On cleaning up penalties:
You stay focused on the things you need to improve on. Playing within the rules is important. If you try to establish a style of play, we just emphasize it.
On Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson:
Calvin Johnson is a great player. They move him around. His ability to make big plays in all phases of the passing game is unique. He's obviously a focal point.
On the Lions' offense under new coach Jim Caldwell:
There have been changes. The utilization of the run game. There's still big-play potential.
On studying a new coach in the offseason:
You look into every coach's past history or how they may project.
On how the Packers' tight ends are doing:
After two games, I think opportunities in passing game have been limited but they improved from Week 1 to Week 2.
On Lions running back Reggie Bush:
He's an excellent football player. How we're going to go about attacking their offense, he's a weapon. He's unique. Their big-play ability with their offense is one of our toughest challenges this year.
On wide receiver Jordy Nelson's growth:
I think Jordy Nelson has been everything everybody thought he would be. He came in and contributed right away. He's a big receiver, smart and finishes catches. He does it all.
On having three straight NFC North games:
The biggest thing is the number of games in however many days are in front of us. This is a division game and we're going to take them one at a time. This is a big game going into Detroit.
On last year's Thanksgiving loss in Detroit:
It was a bad day. We lost the game. Bad day.
On the Packers defense's improvement:
We've played two games. We improved from Week 1 to Week 2 on defense.
On Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy:
New York Giants game, I thought he was outstanding. We have great respect for him. He's clearly one of their best players on defense. I really like both of those linebackers.
On Nelson's high number of touches:
Jordy Nelson's production is obviously a credit to him and the rest of our offense. However that sorts out, it's about scoring points at the end of the day.
On linebacker Andy Mulumba's knee injury:
He's lost for the season. Very unfortunate.
On recent NFL developments with Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice:
It's important to check your mail. We've definitely done that. We've talked about it as a football team.