M & M Watch

TimpranilloMember

I think we need a spot (think this should be stickied all year) where we can all see the talent and respect that both Marshawn Lynch and Marion Barber have in the NFL, and we need to be able to find it quickly and easily so we can always think about what could have been since. We'll track from the trade deadline moving forward

12/5
Marion Barber DNP Sprained Vagina.
Marshawn Lynch 21 rushes, 83 yards, 4.0 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson 4 rushes, 13 yards, 3.3 yards/rush

11/25-28
Marion Barber 10 rushes, 19 yards, 1.9 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 7 rushes, 20 yards, 2.9 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson 10 rushes, 26 yards, 2.6 yards/rush

11/21
Marion Barber 13 rushes, 36 yards, 2.8 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 7 rushes, 36 yards, 5.1 yards/rush 2 fumbles lost
Brandon Jackson, 14 rushes, 28 yards, 2.0/rush

11/14
Marion Barber 8 rushes, 47 yards, 5.9 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 13 rushes, 29 yards, 2.2 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson, BYE week

11/7
Marion Barber 6 rushes, 14 yards, 2.3 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 11 rushes, 48 yards, 4.4 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson, 13 rushes, 42 yards, 3.2 yards/rush

10/31
Marion Barber 9 rushes, 16 yards, 1.8 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 9 rushes, 7 yards, 0.8 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson, 15 rushes, 55 yards, 3.7 yards/rush

10/24
Marion Barber 4 rushes, 6 yards, 1.5 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 24 rushes, 89 yards, 3.8 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson, 13 rushes, 58 yards, 4.5 yards/rush

10/17
Marion Barber 10 rushes, 31 yards, 3.1 yards/rush
Marshawn Lynch 17 rushes, 44 yards, 2.6 yards/rush
Brandon Jackson, 12 rushes, 53 yards, 4.4 yards/rush

10/31/106:34 PM

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CoachAt the head of the table

Oh, what could've been.

10/31/106:36 PM

chickenboyTic Toc

Those numbers are subjective, IMO...

10/31/106:37 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

Jackson gets garbage yards. The other two guys get respect yards.

http://timesfour.com/eve/forum...794042877#8794042877

10/31/106:41 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

take into account this weekend the teams they were running against, I bet if I look it up, the Jets are like 28th in rush defense. Raiders and Jags are probably both top 5 at stopping the run

perspective

10/31/106:44 PM

TimpranilloMember

The horrible and inept Packers rushing game (Stats don't matter for the Packers, only the opinion of geenyous) ran 23 times for 76 yards against the 7th rated rushing defense.

Meanwhile the 2nd rated rushing team in the NFL had it's running backs run 22 times for 76 yards against the 23rd rated rushing defense.

Respect, indeed.

10/31/106:51 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

Sock it...to me?

10/31/106:54 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

time will tell

10/31/107:10 PM

tundra_powerMember

What has happened to Barber....Geez

10/31/107:26 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

Who needs yards when you have respect.

10/31/107:29 PM

kentomagicMember

Jackson rarely puts the ball on the ground. Reminds me of Edgar.

10/31/107:31 PM

RatPackMember

Singing to the Aretha when you talk about running from her out of R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

10/31/107:37 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

quote:
Originally posted by kentomagic:
Jackson rarely puts the ball on the ground. Reminds me of Edgar.

Heads just exploded.

10/31/107:48 PM

PackerRickMember

quote:
Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
The horrible and inept Packers rushing game (Stats don't matter for the Packers, only the opinion of geenyous) ran 23 times for 76 yards against the 7th rated rushing defense.

Meanwhile the 2nd rated rushing team in the NFL had it's running backs run 22 times for 76 yards against the 23rd rated rushing defense.

Respect, indeed.

You don't count the fake punt or the Sanchez run in garbage time in the Jets rushing stats but count Jackson's 27 yard run with 8 seconds left in the first half when the Jets were in the prevent?

10/31/107:55 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

comparing running backs to running backs?

crazy

10/31/107:57 PM

TimpranilloMember

Carlos Gomez continues to say hi Rick

10/31/107:58 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

10/31/107:59 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

quote:
Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
comparing running backs to running backs?

crazy

We should throw out the 9-0 score on respect grounds alone.

10/31/108:00 PM

PackerRickMember

quote:
Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
Carlos Gomez continues to say hi Rick

He was your boy. I said he Ked too much. You liked his game.

10/31/108:43 PM

PackerRickMember

quote:
Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
comparing running backs to running backs?

crazy

Or garbage time to garbage time.

Looks like the 3 amigos are riding again in this thread.

10/31/108:45 PM

RonJrMember

YES!!!!

Brandon Jackson is our savior!!!

He needs to go to the Pro Bowl!!

Thank God we have him for our running game!

Can't think of anybody else I would want!!!

He was FAN FREAKING TASTIC again today!!!

Thank you football gods for allowing the Packers to have drafted the GREAT Brandon Jackson in the second round!!

10/31/108:57 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

disagree

3 Amigos is an epic movie

10/31/108:58 PM

BrainDedMember

quote:
Originally posted by kentomagic:
Jackson rarely puts the ball on the ground. Reminds me of Edgar.

Same awkward looking running style too. Gets the job done in the open field and is sure handed.

Hopefully he can play on a bad field and run the screen pass like Edgar.

10/31/109:01 PM

FedyaMember

quote:
Can't think of anybody else I would want!!!

I think we'd all like a 25-year-old Jim Brown. But I don't think he's available right about now.

Who is available who would be an improvement in the running game?

10/31/109:04 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

Mark Sanchez or Steve Weatherford

10/31/109:07 PM

heywardKaty Perry is bouncy

Jackson is a very good backup who's doing a competent job filling in as a starter. What more can you ask for?

10/31/109:07 PM

RonJrMember

quote:
Originally posted by Fedya:

Who is available who would be an improvement in the running game?

Nobody...Why do we need to improve our running game? Who says we need to improve our running game?

10/31/109:11 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
Originally posted by Fedya:
quote:
Can't think of anybody else I would want!!!

I think we'd all like a 25-year-old Jim Brown. But I don't think he's available right about now.

Who is available who would be an improvement in the running game?

Certainly not an overpriced, overrated Marshawn Lynch or an over-aged, over the hill Marion Barber. Not sure of the solution, but no one on this board has brought it up. Hence we stick with our best options, Jackson and Kuhn.

10/31/109:11 PM

CUPackFanMember

quote:
Originally posted by heyward:
Jackson is a very good backup who's doing a competent job filling in as a starter. What more can you ask for?

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Lynch and Barber will never be in a Packers uniform. Can we please stop talking about them?

10/31/109:11 PM

FedyaMember

quote:
Mark Sanchez or Steve Weatherford

I don't think either of those is available.

10/31/109:12 PM

chickenboyTic Toc

quote:
Originally posted by heyward:
Jackson is a very good backup who's doing a competent job filling in as a starter. What more can you ask for?

disagree. he's a third string back doing a competent job as a starter. kuhn is a fullback doing a competent job as a fourth string rb.

10/31/109:12 PM

chickenboyTic Toc

can we throw a "j" into this as I watch julius jones gash the steelers?

10/31/109:16 PM

HenryYou rang?

quote:
Originally posted by :
YES!!!!

Brandon Jackson is our savior!!!

He needs to go to the Pro Bowl!!

Thank God we have him for our running game!

Can't think of anybody else I would want!!!

He was FAN FREAKING TASTIC again today!!!

Thank you football gods for allowing the Packers to have drafted the GREAT Brandon Jackson in the second round!!

Are you watching me outside my window as I kneel down and pray? 500 yards Rong, 500 yards.

10/31/109:20 PM

PackerRickMember

quote:
Originally posted by heyward:
Jackson is a very good backup who's doing a competent job filling in as a starter. What more can you ask for?

Jackson is doing a fine job. But there is nothing behind him. Kuhn is just a one dimensional FB that was thought so little of the Packers let him test the FA waters without an offer. The Packer let him carry a whopping 16 times the 2 previous seasons combined. Hardly sounds like somebody they planned on giving the ball to this season. Kuhn is not the answer as the #2 RB.

The Packers had 2 1st downs rushing today and one of them was on the Jackson 27 yard run right before the end of the first half, a meaningless play that was simply what the defense was giving the Packers in that situation. With a more competent running game the Packers win by 25 today.

10/31/109:48 PM

PackerBackerDPMMember

If the Jones and Jennings don't have a combined 4 or 5 drops the packers win by 25 today. IF if ifs.....

10/31/1010:11 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

quote:
Originally posted by PackerRick:
Kuhn is not the answer as the #2 RB.

Style points aside, tell that to Detroit.

10/31/1010:13 PM

CoachAt the head of the table

quote:
Originally posted by OSUpackerbacker:
IF if ifs.....

Let it go.

It's all they have.

Packers won.

Yay, Pack.

10/31/1010:14 PM

PackerBackerDPMMember

I know Coach, it just really gets annoying.....dam great football game against a good quality team. Just not flashy enough for some folk i guess.

10/31/1010:17 PM

ammoCheese Master

quote:
Originally posted by PackerRick:
. Kuhn is just a one dimensional FB that was thought so little of the Packers let him test the FA waters without an offer. The Packer let him carry a whopping 16 times the 2 previous seasons combined. Hardly sounds like somebody they planned on giving the ball to this season. Kuhn is not the answer as the #2 RB.

Guess you missed this.

Jackson rushed 7 times on 1st down, 5 times he gained 3 yards or less, 2 times 4 yards or more.

Kuhn rushed 5 times on 1st down, 2 times for 3 yards or lass, 3 times for 4 yards or more.

10/31/1010:19 PM

PackerRickMember

quote:
Originally posted by ammo:
silent killer

What does that prove? Kuhn is a FB that going to get 3 yards a crack. Jackson is not a breakaway threat so a better compliment to him would be a RB with some speed. The roster has 1 RB and 3 FBs.

11/1/105:09 AM

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