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be more successful as a Packers quarterback than Brett Favre. Now don't get me wrong...I am not saying that he will start infinity games in a row, break the records for TD's, yards, etc. What I am saying is the Rodgers will bring more championships to Green Bay than Favre. The talent around Rodgers is undeniable and being a very very young team that will continue to grow together with Rodgers. I also believe in MM and TT and think they are the best duo to hit Green Bay since Holmgren and Wolf and will make the right moves (and yes not bringing back Favre is the right move) to keep the Packers competitive. I am very excited about this up coming season and I am pissed at Favre for starting this pissing match. Time to pull off the gloves (now that he has) and say Brett, he are your options...come back and compete for your job, let us trade you to a team we can both agree on...or stay retired. That is it!! Your call...let us know in a week so we can get the ball rolling.

Rejoice Packer fans...the future is bright and it will be delivered by AR!!!
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mark my words, he will be lucky if he plays in 10 to 12 games this year do to injury.

3 games played, 2 times injured.
Truth be told he wasn't injured in the Cowboys game ... he was injured in practice a few days later. He's been brittle, no doubt, but lets hope if he's called upon to be the starter once the season starts that he can avoid the injury bug. I'd sure like to see that, but I'm not sure many of you supposed Packer fans are with me on that.
He never missed a game in college. He was back as the #2 by the end of last sesaon and played in the SEA playoff game. QBs get hurt, people forget that... Favre was the exception, not the rule.
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Originally posted by grbaypack:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mark my words, he will be lucky if he plays in 10 to 12 games this year do to injury.

3 games played, 2 times injured.
Truth be told he wasn't injured in the Cowboys game ... he was injured in practice a few days later. He's been brittle, no doubt, but lets hope if he's called upon to be the starter once the season starts that he can avoid the injury bug. I'd sure like to see that, but I'm not sure many of you supposed Packer fans are with me on that.



If he is the starter I will wish him well, and hope he will be great.

But He hasn’t look satisfactory in three preseasons, and with the injures I don’t think he is the future.
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Originally posted by grbaypack:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mark my words, he will be lucky if he plays in 10 to 12 games this year do to injury.

3 games played, 2 times injured.
Truth be told he wasn't injured in the Cowboys game ... he was injured in practice a few days later. He's been brittle, no doubt, but lets hope if he's called upon to be the starter once the season starts that he can avoid the injury bug. I'd sure like to see that, but I'm not sure many of you supposed Packer fans are with me on that.


And from what I heard, Rodgers could have started if Favre could not. Instead, they figured it best to rest Rodgers. QB's play injured all the time, but there was no reason to have him running the #2 offense in practice and risk further injury. It was no big deal. The broken foot thing still worries me though.
Mark my words......

Come training camp, the name "Brett Favre" won't be uttered on the main Packer forum unless he is the starting (or backup/3rd string) QB of the Packers
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Aaron Rodgers reminds me of Mike Tomczak. A career backup who’s good in a pinch, but not a starter.

Mark my words he's the next Mike Tomczak



So tell me exactly what traits do they have in common? If you think that way there must be reasons except a feeling - otherwise it just makes you look like foolish.
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by grbaypack:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mark my words, he will be lucky if he plays in 10 to 12 games this year do to injury.

3 games played, 2 times injured.
Truth be told he wasn't injured in the Cowboys game ... he was injured in practice a few days later. He's been brittle, no doubt, but lets hope if he's called upon to be the starter once the season starts that he can avoid the injury bug. I'd sure like to see that, but I'm not sure many of you supposed Packer fans are with me on that.



If he is the starter I will wish him well, and hope he will be great.

But He hasn’t look satisfactory in three preseasons, and with the injures I don’t think he is the future.


You're saying he didn't look good in preseason last year or in the regular season games he played? I just want to clarify.
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by grbaypack:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mark my words, he will be lucky if he plays in 10 to 12 games this year do to injury.

3 games played, 2 times injured.
Truth be told he wasn't injured in the Cowboys game ... he was injured in practice a few days later. He's been brittle, no doubt, but lets hope if he's called upon to be the starter once the season starts that he can avoid the injury bug. I'd sure like to see that, but I'm not sure many of you supposed Packer fans are with me on that.



If he is the starter I will wish him well, and hope he will be great.

But He hasn’t look satisfactory in three preseasons, and with the injures I don’t think he is the future.


You're saying he didn't look good in preseason last year or in the regular season games he played? I just want to clarify.


For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Mark my words......

Come training camp, the name "Brett Favre" won't be uttered on the main Packer forum unless he is the starting (or backup/3rd string) QB of the Packers


So, you're going to ban the entire x4 population again? Wink This is NOT good for board chemistry ya know.

Rodgers is... unproven. There's really nothing more to say than that about his on the field abilities, because we simply have not seen enough yet. He's had the perfect situation to develop himself into an NFL QB as he waited in the wings, unlike Alex Smith who has been thrown to the wolves.

As for off the field, he's handled himself well overall, with the occasional ego hiccup. I have no freaking clue how the OP can justify saying that Rodgers will be better than Favre. HOW many years did we wait for a QB like Favre in GB?
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?



Like Mike Tomczak, as a backup.
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?



Like Mike Tomczak, as a backup.



Oh, that explains everything sarcasm
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?



Like Mike Tomczak, as a backup.


Mike Tomczak was good off the bench. Not a great arm, but could be accurate. Managed the game plan, but couldn’t control the whole game. He would run when chased out of the pocket, which would lead to him getting injured if he started to many games. Played just good enough to keep his job in preseason. He also had Aaron's cocky attitude.
"I have no freaking clue how the OP can justify saying that Rodgers will be better than Favre. HOW many years did we wait for a QB like Favre in GB? "

Again..I am not saying he is better than Favre...just saying he will be more successful in terms of championships...
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?



Like Mike Tomczak, as a backup.


Mike Tomczak was good off the bench. Not a great arm, but could be accurate. Managed the game plan, but couldn’t control the whole game. He would run when chased out of the pocket, which would lead to him getting injured if he started to many games. Played just good enough to keep his job in preseason. He also had Aaron's cocky attitude.


Well, your first analysis is totally wrong. If you're so wrong on that point how do we trust you obn the other ones.

Here are some quotes from a couple of scouting reports of Rodgers coming out of college:

"very good arm strength"

Has great arm strength and mechanics"

Here is the title from a John Clayton article from this June:
"Packers gaining confidence in Rodgers' strong arm"
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
Mike Tomczak was good off the bench. Not a great arm, but could be accurate. Managed the game plan, but couldn’t control the whole game. He would run when chased out of the pocket, which would lead to him getting injured if he started to many games. Played just good enough to keep his job in preseason. He also had Aaron's cocky attitude.


Aaron has a great arm, is very accurate, poised, confident, etc. Mike McCarthy is a good enough play caller/game planner that if Aaron was having trouble, he'd adjust. I mean, he reigned in Favre last season extremely well and compensated for no running game for half the season. Even if Rodgers sucks, the Packers will be alright.
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Originally posted by kcpuck:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.

Rodgers did have one good game at Dallas.


So you're saying he played well when it actually mattered and didn't play well when it didn't matter? Right?



Like Mike Tomczak, as a backup.


Mike Tomczak was good off the bench. Not a great arm, but could be accurate. Managed the game plan, but couldn’t control the whole game. He would run when chased out of the pocket, which would lead to him getting injured if he started to many games. Played just good enough to keep his job in preseason. He also had Aaron's cocky attitude.


Well, your first analysis is totally wrong. If you're so wrong on that point how do we trust you obn the other ones.

Here are some quotes from a couple of scouting reports of Rodgers coming out of college:

"very good arm strength"

Has great arm strength and mechanics"

Here is the title from a John Clayton article from this June:
"Packers gaining confidence in Rodgers' strong arm"



It’s my opinion, and no scouting report is going to make me feel different. If all scouting reports where right there would be no BUST’s. Insert Jamal Reynolds joke here, or better yet Tony Mandarich.
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For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.


- Really?
What game that counted that Hasselbeck played in Green Bay impressed you?
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Originally posted by trump:
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For the last three preseason’s I haven’t been impressed with Rodgers. Not the way I was when I watched Matt Hasselbeck play.


- Really?
What game that counted that Hasselbeck played in Green Bay impressed you?


What he meant was he was impressed with how Hass held a clipboard.
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
It’s my opinion, and no scouting report is going to make me feel different. If all scouting reports where right there would be no BUST’s. Insert Jamal Reynolds joke here, or better yet Tony Mandarich.


So the fact that you've seen him for in limited action for 3 preseasons means that you know more than guys who've spent hours watching film and basically know more than you about how to judge QBs? Ok, as long as we've got that straight.
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Originally posted by Boris:
Mark my words......

Come training camp, the name "Brett Favre" won't be uttered on the main Packer forum unless he is the starting (or backup/3rd string) QB of the Packers

Seeing as this isn't an audio forum, it's only natural that nobody will be uttering the name Brett Favre here.

Trying to type it, however, is another matter. Razzer

(Sorry, but there's so much histrionics going on around the whole Favre situation -- and not just amongst the particulars -- that it sometimes seems as though cynical humor is the best way to deal with it.)
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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
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Originally posted by Fizzman:
It’s my opinion, and no scouting report is going to make me feel different. If all scouting reports where right there would be no BUST’s. Insert Jamal Reynolds joke here, or better yet Tony Mandarich.


So the fact that you've seen him for in limited action for 3 preseasons means that you know more than guys who've spent hours watching film and basically know more than you about how to judge QBs? Ok, as long as we've got that straight.


This post was all about speculations. I gave my opinion. You and all of the Triple T (Terrible Ted Thompson) brown eye kissers won’t change it by being posting Nazi.

But you have won. I will go back to just being an observer, and let all of you hash it out. I just forgot why I quit posting here the first time.
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Originally posted by Fizzman:

But you have won. I will go back to just being an observer, and let all of you hash it out. I just forgot why I quit posting here the first time.


X4 - Not For Pussies!
Why We Love Aaron Rodgers

Poor Aaron Rodgers. He's had to sit on the bench for three years. Packers fans are holding rallies in support of Brett Favre. Nobody seems to love him. Except us. Here's why:

• Because he plays with an adult-like enthusiasm.

• Because he appreciates high-quality acoustics.

• He has never cried on television.

• He is at least one lousy season from even mentioning retirement.

• He has never been sacked -- ahem -- by Michael Strahan.

• He has never been held up as a living embodiment of America, lost American manhood or a Dylan Thomas poem.

• He does not need to be paired with a gratuitous Golden Retriever for maximum endorsement effect.

• Gunslinging will only end in his likely arrest and probable incarceration.

• He seems indifferent to lawn care.

• Because more Aaron Rodgers means less Frank Caliendo.

• Has never done an interview on Fox News with Greta Van Susteren.

• Has never thrown 29 interceptions in one season.

• Because we guarantee he's better than Kyle Boller ... or Rich Campbell.

• He's never been in a Farrelly brothers movie.

• His last name sounds like it's spelled.

• He has never had his image rendered in cheese.

• He's bold enough to try the shoulder-length hair, which is fully ready for an '80s rock band.
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