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After 8 years he feels like he's at halftime.

 

Just a really good fit for GB. Not interested in being heard. Not comfortable with the PR game. Seems to struggle with the whole challenge technology thing. Comes off like Art Donavan in a blow dried air brushed made for prime time choreographed head coach spotlight stage more often than not. He's a dirt and grass throwback. 

 

Made the playoffs in 6 of his 8 years and has hardware. He knows where his team is headed and he might defer to Ted but only out of respect instead of rank. Lombardi would loved to to talk football with Mike over a highball in his Green Bay basement. 

 

I dig Mike McCarthy and I'm looking forward to the second half. 

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Which brings to mind the ballsiest call MM ever made, regardless of how much TT was involved - ditch Bert and let's go with the kid.

 

MM is going to ride it out with Rodgers.  Their timeframes match up pretty much perfectly.  That's good.  MM is a helluva coach.  He may not have the interior decorating acumen of his predecessor, but he sure knows how to coach football.  He's an ego-devoid taskmaster who's detail-oriented, down-to-earth and just knows how to get his message across to people.  The fact that he can develop the bejesus out of QBs is just a bonus.

 

We're lucky.  He's a top-tier coach.  Last season proved that considering all that happened and he still won the division.  IMHO.

 

 

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McCarthy got his ass kicked when went nanny phoo-phoo with that collarbone. And looking back? I think he learned a great deal and became an even better coach for it.

 

That he managed to win the division with a keystone cops of QB's and created a game plan to fit Flynn and his skills says a hell of a lot. Highly doubt Petie or Jimmy manage to even sniff the playoff if Russell Wilson or Caperdick goes poof for half the season.

 

And I also give him props for actually utilizing real RB tallant in Lacy. He leaned on him and Lacy produced. Props.

 

Originally Posted by JJSD:

Which brings to mind the ballsiest call MM ever made, regardless of how much TT was involved - ditch Bert and let's go with the kid.

 

Not to make this about Favre, but this is spot on. Family weekend Favre talked to Thompson for ~ 90 minutes but spent something like 9 hours with McCarthy. I'm guessing, but McCarthy likely gave Favre numerous opportunities to get in line with the Coaches plan and Favre just couldn't do it.

 

 

While many fans may not like this, I love the calm approach to running the team from McCarthy and Thompson both. No knee-jerkin'.

You dum dums still don't get it.

AR makes everybody look better.

Gotta respectfully disagree with Dancin Jebus.

MM didn't win the division even after AR went down, the team floundered as one of the worst in the NFL until AR came back. Even then it took a total meltdown by the Lions for the Packers to end up on top.

The fact that he can develop the bejesus out of QBs is just a bonus.



Except for all the QBs not named AR.

Dumping Favre was a bold move and was the right move, for that MM deserves a ton of credit.

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Well, the best thing I can say about MM is that he learns from his mistakes and continues to grow. I was about ready to jettison him a few years ago, and then he went out and won the SB in that wreck of an injury laden year. It seems like he makes mistakes (who doesn't? and his are played out on a national stage), but then comes back stronger. Last year was a mess with the backup QB, yet he kept the guys together well enough and developed an entirely different game plan that Flynn could be successful. He learned how to use Lacy. He now obviously has his hand in remaking the defense. 

 

Props to him, and I think most of the NFL doesn't value him enough because he is so low-key. 

I think MM's offense is complicated and it is too much for lower tier QBs even when he tried to simplify it.  During the recent special on Lombardi's life there's a comment about how the Cowboy's offense was too complicated so he knew that eventually they would make a mistake and the Packers would defeat them.  I couldn't help thinking of the current Packer team, both offense and defense.  They are complicated and need smart and well trained athletes to run the schemes.  Some positions they can fill in with average players, but not QB.

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

I didn't think the team responded well at all when AR went down and that rests with the head coach. Jim Schwartz deserves more credit for the Packers winning the division than MM does. He's a very good coach but last year wasn't his finest work.

Not sure how many coaches could win games with Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien at quarterback. 

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

I didn't think the team responded well at all when AR went down and that rests with the head coach. Jim Schwartz deserves more credit for the Packers winning the division than MM does. He's a very good coach but last year wasn't his finest work.

I just hope the Packers sent Thank You cards to the three other teams in the division who rolled over and played dead to allow the Pack to win the division.  Either that or TT behind the scenes paid off the Bears and Lions to make sure they would take a dive at all the appropriate moments - we didn't have to worry about the Vikings.  8-7-1 doesn't usually win anyone a division. 

I think some of you forget that it wasn't just Aaron Rodgers that went out with an injury. They lost #2 WR Randall Cobb, primary pass rusher Clay Matthews, and #2 pass rusher Nick Perry for good chunks of the season and Nickel CB Casey Heyward and starting LT Bryan Bulaga for the entire season. It's not just about replacing those players production, but how do you motivate your team when you have lost the starters at arguably the 3 most important positions on the team (QB, LT, Pass Rusher)? The team played uninspired football because wtf were they supposed to be inspired about? 2 rookies starting at OLB? A rookie LT going against pass rushers like Aldon Smith and Jared Allen? Street free agent QBs that knew less about the offense than most of the rookies? There's no coach that could motivate a team in that kind of situation to continue performing at a high level. That's not giving him a free pass, that's the truth. 

 

He has flaws absolutely, but I think we're lucky we have him. And if you think a teams success falls entirely on a franchise QB, look no further than the 2012 Saints. They won 37 games over the previous 3 seasons with most of the same players (same franchise QB), but went 7-9 with an interim HC and interim DC...and then won 11 games when their HC returned the next season. McCarthy is as important to the puzzle as AR or Clay Matthews. 

Originally Posted by JJSD:

Which brings to mind the ballsiest call MM ever made, regardless of how much TT was involved - ditch Bert and let's go with the kid.

 

Don't know if anyone has posted this before but it certainly supports your comment.

This was posted on another Packer site and my son sent it to me. Quite long but it will keep your interest. Enjoy!

http://vimeo.com/60488925

 

 

 

 

October 24, 2010. The night Karma finally decided to take one last big wet dagger bite oughta' Favres ass because the New Orleans pick was really just the first course. 72,000 fans went dead silent when Harvin caught the go ahead TD. I was one of them. Favre danced around Lambeau like he just drove another nail through Mike and Teds temples. Would have been the 3rd consecutive gut wrenching loss after the Washington and Miami debacles. Then the Jumbotron replay happened. 

 

Leaving the stadium that night was one huge collective "we're going to be alright" frozen moments in time. I'll never forget it. 3 months later GB won another Lombardi. 

 

JJSD is spot on. One of Mikes greatest decisions. 

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Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

I didn't think the team responded well at all when AR went down and that rests with the head coach. Jim Schwartz deserves more credit for the Packers winning the division than MM does. He's a very good coach but last year wasn't his finest work.

Bull****. Where would a dumbass like Schwartz be without Stat Padford for 8 weeks last year?  Not in a position where the division was his to lose. That's partly why he's looking for work today. Chicago had a home game to win the division and failed. The NFL is the ultimate example of don't tell me what you are, show me what you can do. No team wins a division because it was handed to them. You still have to do enough to earn it. Even if that means smoke and mirrors and coaching guys up as best you can to pull out games like Dallas last year. There's much to be said about playing like champions when logic tells you to give it a rest. 

McCarthy isn't perfect but I think he is a pretty good coach and even better I think he's the right fit for this team.  Sometimes he's a little stubborn and late to react or make adjustments but he still has a lot more positives than negatives as a head coach.

 

We're pretty lucky to have Aaron Rodgers but let's not forget it was MM/TT that went out on a limb to draft and develop the guy.   I've said this before but GB was the perfect place for Rodgers and they brought him along the right way.  There's no guarantee that had he ended up in SF as the #1 overall pick that he'd have the same type of success that he's had in GB. 

 

 

Originally Posted by heyward:
Not sure how many coaches could win games with Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien at quarterback.

MM deserves significant blame for the backup QB debacle. I really hoped the team would step up to compensate for the loss of AR and sadly that never happened.

 

The team never quit and MM deserves all the credit in the world for things within his control, but the epic collapse of the Lions that produced the division title isn't one of them.

Originally Posted by Maynard:

I get the feeling that if MM guided the Packers to 19-0 winning the Super Bowl, it would be because the AFC team LOST the game.  Am I right on that?

Yeah, those geenyouses are called 'realists' I think.  The funniest part about them is many of them have talked themselves into some faux sense of intellectual superiority.  They'll tell you to take off the green and gold glasses and acknowledge facts, when the only displayed fact is that folks like this choose to be miserable.

 

That always confuses me, but if that's how they choose to live their GBP experience that's up to them.  

Originally Posted by Maynard:

I get the feeling that if MM guided the Packers to 19-0 winning the Super Bowl, it would be because the AFC team LOST the game.  Am I right on that?

Maynard---  you are correct!!   I have said this same type of thing before.   Even if MM coached the Pack to a 19-0 record, some here would complain that we should have won  some of  the games by 50 points instead of maybe 3 or 7 or 14.   

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