Whoa, settle down. I never said it was going to happen, I said it would be the best way for the Packers to get the most value for him. Sort of like how Tampa Bay got New England to give them more than a piece of burnt toast ( it was actually a 4th round pick) for Aquib Talib and a 7th round pick. If it's late October 2013 and you know you are absolutely not going to resign J F, any thing in trade is better than letting him walk at the end of the year.
quote:Originally posted by Johnny Boy:
He is going to be traded.
Just reviewing this topic. I meant to say "not".
GB will keep him.
I'm sticking to the opinion that ends up being right
Thanks Patty. HIGH FIVE!
quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Finley is not well liked in the GB locker room. He's a joke to some guys.
Truth.
QB likes him. Position coach likes him. Head coach likes him. GM likes him.
Fans think he is overpaid. I'm guessing your comment is opinion and not truth.
I think we can both agree that what a player tells the media is not always the truth.
After further review, Boris was right.
McCarthy clear on Jermichael Finley issue
There's no way to justify his number and the best case scenario is for the Packers to rework his deal with a contract heavy with incentives.
There's no way to justify his number and the best case scenario is for the Packers to rework his deal with a contract heavy with incentives.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
After further review, Boris was right.
Kiss Ass!!
easy call here. if the coaches and gm like finley then keep him.
You guys are funny.
Take emotion out of the equation and see things like TT sees them. It's enlightening. Makes you feel alive.
Take emotion out of the equation and see things like TT sees them. It's enlightening. Makes you feel alive.
Kind of feel like I am at a Tony Robbins seminar.
Must have heard this from Joe Arrigo . . .quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Finley is not well liked in the GB locker room. He's a joke to some guys.
Truth.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Take emotion out of the equation and see things like TT sees them. It's enlightening. Makes you feel alive.
Really? When I look at things like TT I suddenly feel cold and without feeling.
What's the color of the sky in your world?
Vandermuse took a shot at McGinn in his column about Finley saying he didn't buy it.
Time for a Paper war between the Press Gazette and MJS.
Time for a Paper war between the Press Gazette and MJS.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
What's the color of the sky in your world?
When I look thru my eyes or TT's eyes?
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Take emotion out of the equation and see things like TT sees them. It's enlightening. Makes you feel alive.
Really? When I look at things like TT I suddenly feel cold and without feeling.
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I would prefer my GM to be warm and passionate like Matt Millen. He was obviously servicing William Clay Ford Sr to remain employed all those years.
quote:Originally posted by FinnLander:Must have heard this from Joe Arrigo . . .quote:Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Finley is not well liked in the GB locker room. He's a joke to some guys.
Truth.
Patty
Ya know, Patty has at least one up on ArrigO.
I've never seen a picture of Patty.
I've never seen a picture of Patty.
Found on the internet...
Finley says, "I'd have to walk for sure", if he was asked to take a pay cut.
quote:
"I'd have to walk for sure, meaning I couldn't take a pay cut," Finley told ESPN's Josina Anderson. "Maybe I'd restructure if it's a deal that I like and it makes sense, but I'm not the guy that's just going to sign anything and let anything pass. Iâ™m not that guy. Other than that, taking a pay cut or restructuring doesn't sound good to me at this time. I like my deal.
"I start training in Minneapolis tomorrow and I'm more inspired than ever to start next season off right and be the tight end I know I can be. It's all business at the end of the day. I just love what I do."
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Finley says, "I'd have to walk for sure", if he was asked to take a pay cut.quote:
"I start training in Minneapolis tomorrow."
Well, we can guess where he will end up!
Who doesn't like making $8mil for a year?
I think they should extend him one year and restructure.
This year he makes $2.5mil with a $2mil signing bonus for restructuring.
Next year he can make $8mil... if he meets many incentives otherwise it's a base $4mil. That's about what he's currently worth.
But by gawd, for $8mil this year he better be freakin' all world.
I think they should extend him one year and restructure.
This year he makes $2.5mil with a $2mil signing bonus for restructuring.
Next year he can make $8mil... if he meets many incentives otherwise it's a base $4mil. That's about what he's currently worth.
But by gawd, for $8mil this year he better be freakin' all world.
I just don't get this guy. No one expects you to come out and say, "yeah, I'll probably tear up my contract and play for whatever they want to throw my way."
But there are less a-holes ways of getting out the message that he did.
But there are less a-holes ways of getting out the message that he did.
I doubt he has anyone that says "Hey man, play it cool. Don't talk about it to the media." His agent is as big a dumdum as him and runs his mouth as much as him.
Cut him. Quarless, Williams, Taylor will be fine. Finley is not productive enough to be the luxury he is.
We need more help in too many areas that we can continue to take that kind of cap hit on a guy that is inconsistent at best.
We need more help in too many areas that we can continue to take that kind of cap hit on a guy that is inconsistent at best.
quote:Originally posted by Maynard:
[QUOTE]"I start training in Minneapolis tomorrow."
quote:Well, we can guess where he will end up!
They already have someone who's better...
Finley's biggest rub continues to be his mouth. Just. Stop. Talking.
...and no, I still wouldn't cut him. Restructuring makes sense though.
...and no, I still wouldn't cut him. Restructuring makes sense though.
Maybe this opens up ever so slightly the option of cutting Finley and resigning Jennings. Which would we prefer, Jennings and one of the top tight ends, in the draft 1st or 2nd round, or Finley and a rookie receiver? I like going young, but Jennings easily has four good years left and I like him enough that I would probably find a way to keep him. But I doubt that will happen. Not an easy call and I believe Finley stays, and restructures despite his position, which btw I feel he has every right to. This isn't an instance where I would criticize him. He has a contract and wants to honor it.
quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Expect him to play & play well in 2013 for the Green & Gold.
Him & Quarless on the field at the same time, will make DC's sleepless
Boris gets it. You dumdums wouldn't know a talented TE if he slapped you upside the head.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
You guys are funny.
Take emotion out of the equation and see things like TT sees them. It's enlightening. Makes you feel alive.
Finley probably could have chosen his words better and been a little more politically correct, but he is who he is and it doesn't really bother me. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see a reworked extension that's more cap-friendly.
Strictly from a business point of view it would have to be a pretty cap friendly contract to talk extension at this point.
Finley's point, to whatever extent he had one beyond exercising his mouth, was that an extension won't be an easy sell. This seems obvious if you look at Finley's options if he says "no" to an extension. Either he makes 8m with the Packers next season, or he hits free agency, where he could still sign with the Packers if he wanted to.
Whatever the Packers offer him, they'll probably still have on the table in free agency. Why say yes until he can test those waters?
The only way he'd say yes is if he likes the extension more than 8m for 2013, followed by free agency.
That would have to be a very high paying extension, from his perspective.
Many Packers fans seem to think an agreement on an extension would be easy, but that 8m Finley's current contract pays him next season makes an extension far less likely.
Since Finley's worst case scenario after saying "no" is free agency, the Packers have little negotiating leverage.
Bottom line - Finley might be worth 8m to the packers for one season. But I doubt he's worth what it would take to extend him right now.
Whatever the Packers offer him, they'll probably still have on the table in free agency. Why say yes until he can test those waters?
The only way he'd say yes is if he likes the extension more than 8m for 2013, followed by free agency.
That would have to be a very high paying extension, from his perspective.
Many Packers fans seem to think an agreement on an extension would be easy, but that 8m Finley's current contract pays him next season makes an extension far less likely.
Since Finley's worst case scenario after saying "no" is free agency, the Packers have little negotiating leverage.
Bottom line - Finley might be worth 8m to the packers for one season. But I doubt he's worth what it would take to extend him right now.
I believe Finley is scheduled to make more money this season than Cobb, Nelson, and Jones combined. Think about that.
By now we should come to expect he's going to make dumb comment here and there because he's been doing it for several years now. That's simply the way the guy is and I doubt he's going to change.
My bigger concern is should they be tying up that amount of money in a guy that's not been consistent?
The good news is that at least he's not signed long term beyond this year at $8MM per season. That would make the decision pretty easy to cut or trade him.
By now we should come to expect he's going to make dumb comment here and there because he's been doing it for several years now. That's simply the way the guy is and I doubt he's going to change.
My bigger concern is should they be tying up that amount of money in a guy that's not been consistent?
The good news is that at least he's not signed long term beyond this year at $8MM per season. That would make the decision pretty easy to cut or trade him.