Mid point of the season, Aaron Rodgers has to be the NFL MVP right now.

lambeausouthMember

By tomorrow night, all the teams in the NFL will have played 8 games, so we're officially to the halfway point of the season. And while there are some really great seasons happening right now, there shouldn't be any doubt that Aaron Rodgers is the NFL's MVP right now.

Remember a month ago when people were asking "what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers"? We were 2-3. Well, reports of Mr. Rodgers' demise were premature. In the last four weeks, Aaron has 15 TD passes and 1 INT. His 22 TD passes the last five games is a Packer team record. He has 25 TD passes and 5 INT, he's completing 67% of his passes, and has 2,383 yards passing. A 107.4 QB rating.Oh ya, and 162 yards rushing. That's a pace for 45 TD passes, 9 interceptions and 4,236 yards passing.

The passing yard pace is down from last year, but the other numbers are nearly identical to last season (he'll have a few more picks at this pace).

But what makes this season all the more spectacular is his level of play with a revolving door of players around him. He's not had his #1 receiver all season. His #1 running back Cedric Benson, has missed 4 games with his injury. His #2 receiver Jordy Nelson has been out for the last two games. JerMichael Finley has missed time, and when he has been on the field, he's been a non factor. It's been Randall Cobb, James Jones, Donald Driver and Jarrett Boykin on the field. His offensive line has been banged up, and he's been sacked 25 times. Yet he's still playing at an MVP level.

Brett Favre won 3 MVPs with the Packers. Anybody want to bet that Aaron Rodgers doesn't get that many?

11/4/124:47 PM

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AZPackerBackerMember

They're going to give it to Manning, I'd wager.

11/4/124:50 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

With how he was looking forward to the bye week, I'm concerned about Rodgers conditioning.

11/4/124:52 PM

TwinRigMember

Matty (melt) Ice's FalCONS are undefeated.......

11/4/124:53 PM

CUPackFanMember

Or Ryan, even though he doesn't deserve it. Voters like it when the MVP goes to the QB on the team with the best record.

11/4/124:54 PM

lambeausouthMember

quote:
Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
With how he was looking forward to the bye week, I'm concerned about Rodgers conditioning.

I had that coming.

11/4/124:57 PM

PackyMember

Aaron has been good but let's hope his best games are still to come this season. Definitely not MVP like yet but get this team healthly and see what they can do.

11/4/125:02 PM

lambeausouthMember

quote:
Originally posted by Packy:
Aaron has been good but let's hope his best games are still to come this season. Definitely not MVP like yet but get this team healthly and see what they can do.

His numbers would be even better if not for the plethora of drops. At least 5 today.

11/4/125:05 PM

heywardKaty Perry is bouncy

He's been very good, but he's not the MVP at this point. He hasn't played quite as well as the numbers suggest.

11/4/125:09 PM

lambeausouthMember

How does one not play as well as the numbers suggest? Can you clarify that please?

67% completion is incredible...how many drops has he had? He could easily be at 70% completion while missing two of his primary targets for a combined 9 games.

11/4/125:17 PM

CAPackfanMember

Rodgers has been better than Ryan, but right now I'd say most voters are leaning towards him right now due to the fact that his team is undefeated and he's playing very well himself

11/4/125:25 PM

PackLandVAMember

Obviously there's still plenty of football to go....but after 8/9 games, I'd say Matt Ryan is in the driver's seat. His team is undefeated and he's third in the league in QB rating. What more is Ryan supposed to do (during the regular season)other than lead his team to wins and play at a high level.

11/4/125:36 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

more high fives and a higher BFI on ESPN

11/4/125:44 PM

PackyMember

Let's just get in the playoffs and see what Rodgers and this team can do. No need for MVP talk now.

11/4/125:45 PM

FedyaMember

I vote for Carnell Lake.

11/4/125:45 PM

heywardKaty Perry is bouncy

quote:
Originally posted by lambeausouth:
How does one not play as well as the numbers suggest? Can you clarify that please?

67% completion is incredible...how many drops has he had? He could easily be at 70% completion while missing two of his primary targets for a combined 9 games.

Today is a perfect example. Numbers were good, but he didn't play all that well. He's had too many so-so games to be considered the MVP at this point in the season. He's certainly in the discussion, but IMO, he's not at the top of the list.

11/4/125:54 PM

missingU92Member

Ryan is your MVP as of right now. Hopefully a couple of losses will tighten up the race. Peyton Manning will get a lot of consideration too.

11/4/126:07 PM

JJSDSitzpinkler Schadenfreude

That fumble he recovered was perhaps his best play of the year. Awesome.

11/4/126:31 PM

Pack-ManMember

quote:
Originally posted by AZPackerBacker:
They're going to give it to Manning, I'd wager.

If Rodgers keeps it up, the only way Manning wins it is if the Broncos go undefeated in the second half of the season. They'll probably lose 2 more.

11/4/126:33 PM

JJSDSitzpinkler Schadenfreude

Manning is a shoe-in for comeback player of the year. MVP? It's a bit early to give him that.

11/4/126:34 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

I agree Peyton Manning probably gets it.

I want to throw Luck into the conversation for a couple straggler votes if they somehow make the playoffs, though. He's not the guy but I think he deserves to be towards the end of the conversation and garner some votes based on:

There was nothing expected of that team coming into the season and it's not like there's a ton of talent around him, not nearly as much as Rodgers or Ryan have.

Reggie Wayne is really the only established veteran on the offense. This isn't Roethlisburger and a veteran crew of players.

They're 5-3 without their head coach and they've suffered their share of injuries.

Andrew Luck has 4 game-winning drives in the 4th quarter or overtime.

Andrew Luck was on that late college deal where he couldn't even be with the team until June.

11/4/127:20 PM

4 FavreMember

If they handed out MVP today no way is Rodgers getting it. Manning is still a bigger name, his stats are more or less equal, and he's winning his division.

Aaron is still in a good position to go back to back on MVPs, but we're going to have to catch the Bears first. And he's still going to have to separate himself some from Peyton in the stats. More TDs, fewer yards, and slightly lower passer rating won't cut it.

11/4/129:31 PM

PackerHawkMember

Brees will win it again.

11/5/1212:02 AM

ammoCheese Master

0 for 2 today.

11/5/126:37 AM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

The difference will be conditioning and off-season workouts.

11/5/127:07 AM

lambeausouthMember

quote:
Originally posted by 4 Favre:
If they handed out MVP today no way is Rodgers getting it. Manning is still a bigger name, his stats are more or less equal, and he's winning his division.

Aaron is still in a good position to go back to back on MVPs, but we're going to have to catch the Bears first. And he's still going to have to separate himself some from Peyton in the stats. More TDs, fewer yards, and slightly lower passer rating won't cut it.

I respectfully disagree.

The Packers might not lead their division, but they have a better record than the Donkeys by percentages, 6-3 vs 5-3, and the NFC North is way, way better than the AFC West. The NFC North is 22-12, the AFC West is 13-19. And Peyton Manning has had his full compliment of skill players while the Packer offense has been decimated. All things being equal (a point separating their rating), Rodgers has done more with less.

Long way to go yet, obviously, but it's a bye week, so we might as well talk about it.

11/5/127:16 AM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

This isn't a conversation if Ryan is without Jones and White and Manning is without Decker and Thomas the time AR has been without Jennings and Nelson.

The fact that AR is still putting up better number than either of those those two shows:

1. How great AR really is.
2. The genius of TT at assembling a roster.

AR is the best QB in football. He should win the MVP. MVP's are nice but it's not the trophy I'm hoping to see him win.

11/5/127:30 AM

michiganjoeMember

He's playing very well, but the team record always seems to play a pretty significant role and 6-3 puts AR at a disadvantage.

11/5/127:41 AM

FandameMember

Who cares? Ask him if he'd rather get another MVP or a Super Bowl MVP. I'd take the latter, and I'm guessing he would, too.

11/5/127:43 AM

lambeausouthMember

Why get one when you can get both.

11/5/127:47 AM

missingU92Member

Everyone knows by know the MVP isn't about what you have for talent around you. And if you want to use stats for your argument, the NFL Total QBR has Rodgers in 5th place. I'd love to see him with another MVP, but bottom line is part of this award is about who is the media darling while still having a great year. Ryan, Manning and Rodgers will all get votes. But at this moment, your MVP is not AR.

11/5/128:27 AM

FedyaMember

quote:
And if you want to use stats for your argument, the NFL Total QBR has Rodgers in 5th place.

Isn't that the piece of crap used by ESPN?

11/5/128:41 AM

Pikes PeakMember

If Cobb among a couple of others keep playing the way they are #12 may not be MVP on this team much less the whole NFL

11/5/129:12 AM

Grave DiggerMember

I can't see Manning getting the MVP. He has had at least one just really bad game, Rodgers hasn't had that. His lowest rating of the season was against Seattle (still in the 80's, as if that's bad), but that had as much to do with being sacked 10 times. Manning has looked rusty at times this year.

I think voters will look closely at Ryan and realize he's not the reason for their 8-0 record. The team as a whole has played efficient, mistake free football (for the most part). The pressure hasn't really been on Ryan to carry the team yet. Rodgers on the other hand has had the pressure squarely on him and his 100+ QB rating reflects that he is rising to the occasion. Look no further than his game against Houston.

Right now he has been the MVP, no doubt.

11/5/129:20 AM

missingU92Member

quote:
Originally posted by Fedya:
quote:
And if you want to use stats for your argument, the NFL Total QBR has Rodgers in 5th place.

Isn't that the piece of crap used by ESPN?

Yes it is. But for all the stat whores who want to go over the numbers with a fine tooth comb to prove Rodgers is the MVP, these numbers show AR isn't #1. I think it's silly for posters to say the numbers show Rodgers is the MVP hands down.

Someone commented it won't be Manning because he had a really bad game a while back. Hell, I don't think Rodgers played particularly well the last 2 weeks. 4 TDs yesterday, but I believe less than 50% completion was'nt impressive. What other numbers do you want to look at? Wins? Ryan has more.

The vote will be close. I respectfully disagree with comments about Rodgers "obviously" being the MVP or "hands down" leading the race. Time will tell.

11/5/1210:07 AM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

I could see the voters getting swept up in the Manning comeback story while completely ignoring he's good for 3-4 passes every game that look like a Mason Crosby 55 yard fg attempt.

Still plenty of football left.

11/5/1210:09 AM

ilcuquiTHE F*** WITH FASHION

My guess is it will be between Manning and Rodgers unless Atlanta goes undefeated or 15-1.

The NFL media hierarchy loves Peyton. And, lets face it, his comeback story and performance has been terrific by-in-large. The writers love this stuff.

Matt Ryan still doesn't do anything for me. Same old same old with him. He certainly can't make something out of nothing like Rodgers and as a passer he's pedestrian. Noodle arm. IMO he and Matt Schaub are clones of each other. Nothing special there but if his team keeps winning he'll be a MVP favorite.

I still don't see any QB out there who, week-in week-out, carries his team like Rodgers does. The players get it. Read McGinn's game story in the JSO today. If the missing offensive pieces come back healthy he will go off in the remaining part of the season.

11/5/1210:23 AM

missingU92Member

Exactly. Manning's comeback feel good story. Ryan flirting with a perfect season and finally being a legit contender for the Super Bowl. They're both drawing attention and that in itself will get some votes. Not saying it's right, but it happens.

11/5/1210:24 AM

ChilliJonI hate the Vikings!

I was under the impression Matt Ryan and the Falcons were a legit contender for the SB in 2010 when they had the #1 seed.

11/5/1210:28 AM

BorisPerson Man Camera Dildo Shop - NFLFU®

Some of you discount the fact Rodgers & Manning already have an MVP.

I'd say Manning & Rodgers are perennial MVP's with Ryan finally garnering some votes this year.

Long way to go. A lot can happen in 8 games

11/5/1210:33 AM

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