Skip to main content

FLPACKER posted:

5 things had to happen for UVA to win yesterday 

1. Guy makes the 3 from the corner

2. PG from Auburn misses a FT after making his last 20 in a row

3. Officials miss the double dribble

4. Guy gets fouled on the 3

5. He makes all 3 FTs

Any one of those does not happen & they don't win (or it goes to OT if Auburn makes both FTs) 

That is why they call it madness!

5. He makes ALL 3 FTs....... nerves of steel, and that’s why I love the NCAA tournament.  

FLPACKER posted:

Yes, Auburn had a foul to give & they tried to foul before Jerome double dribbled. And if Auburn had committed one more foul during the second half they would not have fouled. So many things had to come together for UVA to win this game. Great respect for the Auburn players but I would have a hard time taking Bruce Pearl as a championship winning coach. Guy is a publicity whore who has already left one program with violations. Can't believe that he didn't know his what his assistants at Auburn were doing. The guy can coach but I've never cared for his character. 

Pearle coached UW-Milwaukee.  I think his last team there was the one that reached the Sweet 16 and actually gave Illinois a decent game.  That was the Illinois team that started 3 guards including Deron Williams.

Anyway, back in that day, I know Pearle was mentioned as in the dog house for something he said or did and that was why he had yet to break into a bigger program.

Last edited by phaedrus

Pakrz:
As an Arizona fan, I've seen joy and plenty of heartbreak.

Bucky hasn't done your Wildcats any favors!  The Dick Bennett Final 4 team that got blown out by Michigan State was an 8 seed and beat #1 Arizona.

And Bo Ryan's last two teams (final one the team that lost to Duke in the championship) ended Arizona's season.

 

phaedrus posted:

Pakrz:
As an Arizona fan, I've seen joy and plenty of heartbreak.

Bucky hasn't done your Wildcats any favors!  The Dick Bennett Final 4 team that got blown out by Michigan State was an 8 seed and beat #1 Arizona.

And Bo Ryan's last two teams (final one the team that lost to Duke in the championship) ended Arizona's season.

 

Roger that.  The UW losses were tough... 

phaedrus posted:

Pakrz:
As an Arizona fan, I've seen joy and plenty of heartbreak.

Bucky hasn't done your Wildcats any favors!  The Dick Bennett Final 4 team that got blown out by Michigan State was an 8 seed and beat #1 Arizona.

And Bo Ryan's last two teams (final one the team that lost to Duke in the championship) ended Arizona's season.

 

Were both or any of those Arizona teams coached by Lute Olson?

 

Last edited by mrtundra

I have to believe Tony might have a difficult time convincing his family to come to Madison at this point in his career.  I know his wife is from the South and they met back when he was playing in Charlotte, NC.  She did move with him to Washington State, but they've been in Virginia so long now, I think it might be something that would be a tough sell with their kids growing up, etc. 

AtTheMurph posted:

I kills me to see Tony Bennett coaching Virginia. He needs to be on the sidelines in Madison.

If there was ever a chance of that happening, it needed to happen immediately after Bo Ryan stepped down. However, Ryan stepped down early in a season and then Gard managed to get to the Sweet 16 that year. 

If Tony really wanted to come back to Wisconsin (and maybe he never did), Bo made it very difficult to happen with how he timed his departure. It was unlikely that Gard was going to ball on his face with Nigel Hayes, Bronson Koenig, and Ethan Happ. It's not clear whether Bo retired because of his "massage therapist" connections were about to come out or whether this was the plan all along. 

Before we rip on Bo for this, this was what Dick Bennett tried to do also for Brad Soderberg. However, Richter opted for Bo Ryan instead of Soderberg even though he went 16-10 and got to the NCAA tournament. Soderberg is now Tony's assistant at Virginia 

Yes, the Bennett to Soderberg transition did not go anywhere near as well as the Ryan to Gard one did.

In fairness to Soderberg, trying to follow up a Final Four season was a very tough thing to do.  Not long after Soderberg took over maybe just within a week or so, the Badgers lost to Butler on their home floor.  At that time Butler was not yet the strong program they would become and Pat Richter was none too happy with losing to a mid-major on their home floor.  

I think that was strike 1 against Soderberg.  Strike 2 was a really bad habit of the Badgers getting the lead in a number of key games and then blowing the lead at the end for a loss.  Strike 3 was losing to Georgia State in the 1st round of the NCAA Tourney.  Richter decided to cut ties with the Bennett era and begin the Bo Ryan era.

championship game  tonight at 9:20 eastern on cbs, there should be a gazillion youngsters who can stay up on a school night to see the end of this one. 

my only bracket got shot when Duke went down, all I heard all year zion williams this, zion williams that, now that he is projected to be the first overall pick in the 2019 nba draft, why on earth would the young man leave Duke, and take a pay cut to go to the nba.  

 

 

AtTheMurph posted:

I kills me to see Tony Bennett coaching Virginia. He needs to be on the sidelines in Madison.

Not trying to ruffle the Bucky feathers in here, but I think Tony Bennett is too big for the UW program at this point.  I see him moving towards Duke or UNC once those guys retire.  He's that good. 

Pikes Peak posted:

 My guess is he stays in Charlottesville as long as they pony up.  And they will.

He's won 30 or more games 4 of the last 6 years without a single one and done player. And he's won 4 ACC titles in that time having to play against UNC and Duke. We know the UNC program is dirty and somehow Roy "Dad Gum" Williams got away unscathed from a program that was giving out fake degrees for years. I've always suspected Coach K is not as pure as his image, and it wouldn't be surprising if the Zion Williamson shoe money stuff becomes an issue for him. 

Tony Bennett wins the right way. 

Last edited by MichiganPacker2

And UW needs to put whatever is needed on the table and get him to Madison. If they don’t, Alvarez doesn’t care about the basketball program... and neither should anyone else. 

Last edited by Music City
Music City posted:

From the first team to drop a 1/16 matchup to winning it all the next year. Pretty amazing...

Dick and Tony coached 40 years cumulatively and this is the first title either has ever won. Dick lost in the HS state finals once with Eau Claire Memorial and lost twice in the NAIA with Terry Porter at UWSP. 

Music City posted:

They made 13 straight FTs... that’s what won it. 

{edit}

14-14...

Well, yeah, if the game makes it into OT.

Before that OT, Hunter nails a 3 with about 13s left to tie it.  TT goes down and I am pretty sure it is Culver who is WAY off with his 3 attempt.

Music City posted:

And UW needs to put whatever is needed on the table and get him to Madison. If they don’t, Alvarez doesn’t care about the basketball program... and neither should anyone else. 

Sorry, but that is just dumb.

It only makes sense if you are convinced Bennett sees Wisconsin as a place he could really want to go.  As just one example, he is well rounded and is a devoted husband and father.  That said, what if his wife and children want no part of such a decision?

You seem to completely dismiss Bennett's perspective, values, etc. and we cannot know what they are.

Wisconsin is not necessarily indicted if they cannot lure Bennett though I agree they should give it their best shot.

Last edited by phaedrus
phaedrus posted:
Music City posted:

They made 13 straight FTs... that’s what won it. 

{edit}

14-14...

Well, yeah, if the game makes it into OT.

Before that OT, Hunter nails a 3 with about 13s left to tie it.  TT goes down and I am pretty sure it is Culver who is WAY off with his 3 attempt.

Question is why does Texas Tech throw up a bad 3pt attempt in a tie game?

Add Reply

Post
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×