New TV deal for NFL is worth $110 BILLION

Amazon will own the NFL in 3 years

Rename it to NFL Prime

And Amazon has EXCLUSIVE rights to TNF. Which leads me to two points.

1. TNF sucks!  Players aren’t rested enough and will get injured.  Quality of play is not up to par either.

2. I HATE the idea of putting games on a pay service. Yeah, the nfl right now is king of the mountain and we’re putty in its hands, but eventually jackass decisions like this will alienate people and hurt the league.

3. While I have the floor ... “Hey, you kids!  Get the F@@@ off my lawn!”

I also hate it that the NFL games being on a pay service and I think I hate TNF even more that royalwulff does.  Speaking of paying I wish they would offer single game or by team pay per view.  I know there are ways to find game streams out there but I would also like the ability to pay for just the Packers games and that's it. 

I can't hate anything more than I hate Direct TV....two more years and then you just know Sunday Ticket will be aka carte streaming.

I don’t think I’m going to get worked up over streamed games. 10 or 20 years ago it would have driven me nuts and I would already be signing up for Amazon prime. Not anymore. I just don’t need to watch every game and the available highlight packages let you see everything.

By the way, does this mean the salary cap will double next year? Push that money back, Gute!

Here's a breakdown of how each television package fared in 2020:

ESPN's Monday Night Football: down 3%.
CBS Sunday afternoon: down 4%.
Fox Sunday afternoon: down 6%.
Fox Thursday night: down 6%.
NBC Sunday Night Football: down 16%

I must be the dum-dum, I would have thought during the pandemic, with people stuck at home the numbers would have shot thru the roof.   

@justanotherpackerfan posted:

By the way, does this mean the salary cap will double next year? Push that money back, Gute!

The new TV deal kicks in 2023 - so that’s when the cap should go way up.

if spectrum thinks its ok to pass these new costs on to me,

adios muther f******s        

@skully posted:

Here's a breakdown of how each television package fared in 2020:

ESPN's Monday Night Football: down 3%.
CBS Sunday afternoon: down 4%.
Fox Sunday afternoon: down 6%.
Fox Thursday night: down 6%.
NBC Sunday Night Football: down 16%

I must be the dum-dum, I would have thought during the pandemic, with people stuck at home the numbers would have shot thru the roof.   

I know many people who didn't watch any NFL gamews early in the season.  Why? Trumpers who supported the Donald's talk about kneeling during the Anthem.  I swear to God this is true. Several told me that is exactly why they did not watch. Some tuned in when the Packers were doing well and made the playoffs but did not care about any other playoff games.  PLEASE don't turn this political!!!!  It was the reason they told me they would not or did not  watch.

@The Heckler posted:

I also hate it that the NFL games being on a pay service and I think I hate TNF even more that royalwulff does.  Speaking of paying I wish they would offer single game or by team pay per view.  I know there are ways to find game streams out there but I would also like the ability to pay for just the Packers games and that's it.

They could easily do Thursday Night Football and put a good product out if they scheduled it after the bye week for the two teams involved. You'd have 11 and 13 days on either side of the game for both teams.

Possible reasons for NFL viewership decline during pandemic...

1.) Husbands lost the argument that they work hard all week and have earned the remote for the weekend. Hard to convince your wife how tough your job is while sitting in the living room playing solitaire and eating Cheetos.

B.) Many people were too busy binging The Magicians or The Queen’s Gambit to watch NFL games.

III.) People developed other hobbies like trying to create a YouTube video where they hit a CD into a CD player with a golf club or making a statue of Marilyn Monroe out of used chewing gum.

@justanotherpackerfan posted:

I don’t think I’m going to get worked up over streamed games. 10 or 20 years ago it would have driven me nuts and I would already be signing up for Amazon prime. Not anymore. I just don’t need to watch every game and the available highlight packages let you see everything.

Plus, you can be in bed by 7:30 after a hearty blue plate special

Or some were like Goldie, always watching Hallmark Channel.

@ammo posted:

I know many people who didn't watch any NFL gamews early in the season.  Why? Trumpers who supported the Donald's talk about kneeling during the Anthem.  I swear to God this is true. Several told me that is exactly why they did not watch. Some tuned in when the Packers were doing well and made the playoffs but did not care about any other playoff games.  PLEASE don't turn this political!!!!  It was the reason they told me they would not or did not  watch.

I won't if you allow me to say that Biden supporters will forget it's Sunday and not watch either.

@RoyalWulff posted:

And Amazon has EXCLUSIVE rights to TNF. Which leads me to two points.

1. TNF sucks!  Players aren’t rested enough and will get injured.  Quality of play is not up to par either.

2. I HATE the idea of putting games on a pay service. Yeah, the nfl right now is king of the mountain and we’re putty in its hands, but eventually jackass decisions like this will alienate people and hurt the league.

3. While I have the floor ... “Hey, you kids!  Get the F@@@ off my lawn!”

remember 20 years ago when you could only watch live thursday if streaming.

@skully posted:

Here's a breakdown of how each television package fared in 2020:

ESPN's Monday Night Football: down 3%.
CBS Sunday afternoon: down 4%.
Fox Sunday afternoon: down 6%.
Fox Thursday night: down 6%.
NBC Sunday Night Football: down 16%

I must be the dum-dum, I would have thought during the pandemic, with people stuck at home the numbers would have shot thru the roof.   

All sports saw a turndown in viewership during the pandemic. Not sure why.

@skully posted:

Here's a breakdown of how each television package fared in 2020:

ESPN's Monday Night Football: down 3%.
CBS Sunday afternoon: down 4%.
Fox Sunday afternoon: down 6%.
Fox Thursday night: down 6%.
NBC Sunday Night Football: down 16%

I must be the dum-dum, I would have thought during the pandemic, with people stuck at home the numbers would have shot thru the roof.   

Should I say here.......ah, tRump caused the downturn with his “take” on the kneeling for the National Anthem.   

There are many fine people on both sides Goldie, don't make this political.

Yeah, it’s the people in the middle who are the real jerks

Jerks... can't commit to anything.

Let's not make this political JAPF.

@Goalline posted:

All sports saw a turndown in viewership during the pandemic. Not sure why.

yeah, NBA, MLB, NHL were all down massively in comparison to NFL.
As for why ? many reasons including:

* change in seasons ( The Masters in September ?)
* too much TV time overall.
* excitement, screaming, rabid fans all contributed to the illusion. Without fans    at the game, they all seemed like yer basic preseason yawner.
*people watched a lot of commercial-free TV on netflix, hulu etc and realized a 3 hour commercial-fest is a crappy way to consume sports
*highlights on twitter/you tube etc - especially for fantasy fans. They don't give a shit about the game, just who scored
* illegal streams / cord cutting
* couldn't gather in bars or groups of friends
*overall saturation of the product 7 days a week
Myself ? I used to watch 5-7 games/week. Now I watch 1, maybe  2
NFLFU

The new TV deals might  be a problem going forward. Since the networks will have to add more commercials to cover these huge increases, it will become even harder to watch a game in it's entirety.

The NFL is certainly still King, but their Kingdom is eroding under their feet. Its simply not sustainable in the current network broadcast model. ( free TV)
And the casual demographic won't pay. The owners/networks are betting heavily on the in-game betting to make it all work. We'll see.

My guess is 3 years before the networks ask for a re-do because they aren't getting the eyeballs needed to cover these huge rights fees.  

Let's not make this political Satori.

I'm doing everything I can to keep those people™ from derailing this otherwise worthy thread with their politics.

Am I allowed to make a somewhat veiled political comment so long as I ask everyone not to make this political?  Asking for a friend.

@Henry posted:

Let's not make this political Satori.

Here's some comments about how The League Lords  view us peasant$:

"Robert "Dickhead" Kraft said something that jumped out to me:
“Every week, we’re presenting our fans the most opportunities in these deals to watch the most compelling games for free. Why ?”

For years, the NFL mantra was all games would be on free over-the-air TV, it was a religion at league headquarters: the widest exposure possible. Now, Kraft is qualifying what types of games are available for free.

Kraft’s comment is the NFL waving the white flag on its once sacrosanct principle of football for everyone. Now it’s football on as many platforms as possible, but in that balancing act, the NFL had to give up one of its foundational tenets in order to extract more money from the fans.

Let’s start with the bottom line for you as a fan: If you want to watch every NFL game, it’s going to cost you additional money."

That’s the reality of the Kraft/Jones NFL and the orgasmic new TV deals

The problem with TV deals are well, it’s TV.

I know a number of people that don’t have a TV.  If they want content, they stream over a device like smartphone or tablet.  

It’s sort of like telephone landlines.  How many of you still have one?  

Amazon has figured this out. It’s only a matter of time before they control not only the content, but also the services and devices as well.

This deal with the NFL is a foot in the door type move.  Their next move will be to kick the mofo in.

As for why viewing interest in sports is down, you want to be part of the experience but it’s a time investment.  All the damn commercials make it an inefficient and annoying process.   The stops in play make it worse.  Some would say politics have influenced this and maybe so.  But MLB has been fighting this well before Trump and the flag and anthem nonsense.  People just have other options.  

The only thing that can save the NFL is gambling.  Fantasy football was a mechanism to get more eyeballs in front of TVs but if it’s about retaining and driving interest that’s one way to do it.   As a culture and society, Americans are lazy degenerates.  The businesses that made a killing during the pandemic were what?   Pick your vice.  

@ammo posted:

I know many people who didn't watch any NFL gamews early in the season.  Why? Trumpers who supported the Donald's talk about kneeling during the Anthem.  I swear to God this is true. Several told me that is exactly why they did not watch. Some tuned in when the Packers were doing well and made the playoffs but did not care about any other playoff games.  PLEASE don't turn this political!!!!  It was the reason they told me they would not or did not  watch.

I promise I won't make this political.  But, I have several in laws who didn't watch one second of the Packers season because of the kneeling thing.   So do I believe that may have impacted ratings I bet it did put a dent in them.

I think one thing hurting ratings is over saturation of their product.  We have games all Sunday, Sunday night, MNF, and TNF.  I can only speak for me and that is I will tune in to Packers games of course but besides that unless it impacts GB I don't spend as much time on it anymore.  There are so many other things to watch that are better than listening to Buck or Collingsworth.

@oshbaul posted:

remember 20 years ago when you could only watch live thursday if streaming.

Remember 50 yrs. ago when if you were a Packer fan the only way to watch them were the 5 minute highlights with Jack Whittaker and Pat Summerall if you lived in NY?

I've said quite a few times that I like listening to the games on the radio, in part because it allows me to do other things on the computer as I listen.

@Packiderm posted:

Remember 50 yrs. ago when if you were a Packer fan the only way to watch them were the 5 minute highlights with Jack Whittaker and Pat Summerall if you lived in NY?

Or Western Wisconsin.

I’ve watched a number of Packers games by recording it and starting about an hour after kickoff.  Fast forward through commercials and halftime BS and get caught up by about the 4Q.  Saves about 60-90 minutes that I couldn’t be doing something else.  

As for Sunday night and Thursday night games, unless it’s the Packers I probably won’t be watching.

This sure is sounding like you assholes all are coming over to my house to watch Sunday Ticket.

@Blair Kiel posted:

This sure is sounding like you assholes all are coming over to my house to watch Sunday Ticket.

I've got my entrance ticket

Shit.

Thats a marriage proposal.

The NCAA tournament ratings are going to be interesting.....no fans, no crying cheerleaders, no bands etc are going to hurt IMO.  I’m a diehard, there were many years when I took off the first Thursday and Friday to watch.  This year?  I will tune in and check out any close  games but I just don’t feel it yet.  

I think college BB has been over exposed too.  Every night, all day Sat and Sun is too much, even for me.  

Watched a bit of last nights First Four...Norfolk St vs App State was an incredible game and because of the environment,I barely looked up from the  newspaper.Definitely not looking forward to Bucky getting thrashed tonight.

For myself, when we cut cable and switched to YouTube TV, I was able to watch rugby and Australian football all of the time, which are more exciting to me these days.  And since New Zealand and Australia did an overall decent job of managing the pandemic, the actually did have fans in attendance.

Satan is right, it does make a difference with fans making noise.

I watched the Packers, but was more casual about the rest of the NFL--it just was boring.

Hell, even the world axe throwing league and the American cornhole association events on ESPN were more exciting than most of the NFL games.