I can't wait for Easley to rule a completion and some 10th grader pops off with "You sure that wasn't simultaneous Easley"?
That's when it'll hit home that everything has gone terribly wrong.
Maybe Easley should look at this video before spouting off about how he thinks he made the correct call.
*video has an f-bomb at the end so careful for those watching at work or around kids*
Now we see why this IDOT will never ref NFL games(again). Not only can he not make simple calls, but he's so thick headed he won't even admit to his obvious error. Right call my ass.
*video has an f-bomb at the end so careful for those watching at work or around kids*
Now we see why this IDOT will never ref NFL games(again). Not only can he not make simple calls, but he's so thick headed he won't even admit to his obvious error. Right call my ass.
quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
If they are not going to invoke Rule 17 for this atrocity, what would they invoke it for.
Nothing that I can think of off the top of my head outside of maybe direct cheating/someone throwing a game and probably not even then.
the only thing they would invoke rule 17 for is if a fan charged onto the field and caused a guy to fumble the ball or tackled a player about to score as time was expiring.
that's what they mean by non-participant. or if someone saw easley accepting a suitcase full of money right after the game.
that's what they mean by non-participant. or if someone saw easley accepting a suitcase full of money right after the game.
The Sports Science vid is indisputable proof. Even in many of the still photos you can barely see Tate touching the ball with one finger even as Jennings is securing it. This just proves it. It won't change the outcome of the game as Rule 17 will not be invoked by Goodell, and I'm not sure it should be. However, Tate should watch the SS vid and then STFU, as should Carroll and every Seahawks fan who still thinks that was a "simultaneous catch."
Lance Easley, the guy makes a decision and will stand by it until he dies!!!
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:
the eternal flame will not be extinguished - never forget.
Ehh. I'm following McCarthy's lead: Get over it and concentrate on next week.
The two other most notorious bad/missed calls in recent GB history ('98 and '09 wildcard games) were far worse because they ended the Packers' season. We don't know yet what the net effect of Monday will be. It might mean that they finish a game out of the playoff race, or it might mean it ignites a fire that makes them play lights-out the rest of the way. Let's see how it all plays out before we decide how long to nurse any grudges.
McCarthy and the players can move on, and they really need to. Fans don't.
The game is over, I'm not happy with the outcome, but I'll continue to follow the Packers. I won't move on from that call/game until GB is assured a playoff seeding that is not impacted by that game. For example, if they are tied (W/L) with any other NFC team and that game effects their playoff seeding... if that happens all the vitriol the fans have/had towards Goodell comes back X4.
The game is over, I'm not happy with the outcome, but I'll continue to follow the Packers. I won't move on from that call/game until GB is assured a playoff seeding that is not impacted by that game. For example, if they are tied (W/L) with any other NFC team and that game effects their playoff seeding... if that happens all the vitriol the fans have/had towards Goodell comes back X4.
I disagree, CitizenDan. '98 wasn't as bad because while yes, the missed call gave the 49ers a chance to win the game that they shouldn't have had, we still had the opportunity to play defense and win the game. It didn't outright decide the game. Also, while it was a bad call, you can understand someone missing the ball popping out and blowing a whistle. Instant replay didn't exist at the time, and I think the current incarnation of instant replay needed some tweaks before they added the ability for refs to award possession despite the early whistle.
'09, once again, yes, bad call, the facemask was there and it should've been a personal foul in both the facemask sense and the can't hit a QB in the head type rules. And yes, Kurt Warner got the roughing call on weaker contact than that, so it stings. But at least if you look at that season ending play on its own, the fact is that the AZ defense made a play, and whether or not Rodgers is roughed on the play, he still fumbles, and the Cardinals are still recovering it for the game winning TD.
But this Seahawks ending is preposterous on so many levels. First of all, you have the other bad calls, the roughing the passer that shouldn't have been, the pass interference called on shields, the missed interference by Tate. Those all individually are as bad or worse than the '98 and '09 calls by themselves. Then you add in a touchdown awarded to a guy whose claim to fame was that he shoved Sam Shields down illegally, and then was kind of in the neighborhood of a guy who caught the should-be game-ending interception? C'mon man! That's a whole new level of injustice. Then you add in the fact that it was reviewable, and they still upheld it? The Jerry Rice fumble if it happened today would be ruled Packer ball by any real officiating crew in the game. The Seattle game adds the unseemly element of corruption on top of the massive incompetence.
I'm not moving on. I don't have to, I don't play the games. I think "Get over it" is the wrong approach for McCarthy as well. I think his lead should be they screwed us, but they can't and won't stop us the rest of the season.
'09, once again, yes, bad call, the facemask was there and it should've been a personal foul in both the facemask sense and the can't hit a QB in the head type rules. And yes, Kurt Warner got the roughing call on weaker contact than that, so it stings. But at least if you look at that season ending play on its own, the fact is that the AZ defense made a play, and whether or not Rodgers is roughed on the play, he still fumbles, and the Cardinals are still recovering it for the game winning TD.
But this Seahawks ending is preposterous on so many levels. First of all, you have the other bad calls, the roughing the passer that shouldn't have been, the pass interference called on shields, the missed interference by Tate. Those all individually are as bad or worse than the '98 and '09 calls by themselves. Then you add in a touchdown awarded to a guy whose claim to fame was that he shoved Sam Shields down illegally, and then was kind of in the neighborhood of a guy who caught the should-be game-ending interception? C'mon man! That's a whole new level of injustice. Then you add in the fact that it was reviewable, and they still upheld it? The Jerry Rice fumble if it happened today would be ruled Packer ball by any real officiating crew in the game. The Seattle game adds the unseemly element of corruption on top of the massive incompetence.
I'm not moving on. I don't have to, I don't play the games. I think "Get over it" is the wrong approach for McCarthy as well. I think his lead should be they screwed us, but they can't and won't stop us the rest of the season.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
McCarthy and the players can move on, and they really need to. Fans don't.
This will never be over, just like we still talk about 4th and 26 or the Immaculate Reception. The media are already teeing up their stories for the end of the year when the playoff hunt becomes front and center
Every single time the Packer and Seajerks play, this will be brought up again
The film clips will be played over and over again, its not going away
The only thing that will change over time is our reaction to it
It will always be a sore spot and given the way that Carroll and his players acted - I suspect many Packer fans will go from not giving a rats arse about a futile franchise in the Northwest, to always hating them ala our division rivals or the cowgirls & eagles
There are fans that are still miffed that Concrete Charlie sat on Jim Taylor in 1960, sealing the victory for the Eagles in the Title game
So be it
I agree Satori.
My buddy from Seattle emailed me yesterday and said that actually, Seattle fans felt bad that the game ended that way, but of course, they can't change the W-L.
I said, yeah, that's fine but your coach and WR are delusional that they keep maintaining that it was the right call. I told them that I would forever hate the team and hope that I hoped the Packers use it to motivate them to be undefeated the rest of the way, while I hope the Hags lose every game they play from now on. I want to tell him I hate their baseball team too and that I hope they all remain depressed because of all the freaking rain they get out there!!!
My buddy from Seattle emailed me yesterday and said that actually, Seattle fans felt bad that the game ended that way, but of course, they can't change the W-L.
I said, yeah, that's fine but your coach and WR are delusional that they keep maintaining that it was the right call. I told them that I would forever hate the team and hope that I hoped the Packers use it to motivate them to be undefeated the rest of the way, while I hope the Hags lose every game they play from now on. I want to tell him I hate their baseball team too and that I hope they all remain depressed because of all the freaking rain they get out there!!!
I'm always looking for a good reason to hate other NFL teams. I didn't much care for the Seahawks before Monday night, mainly because of Caroll. Now they are most definitely in the hated column...right next to the Vikings, Cowboys, Bears, Lions, Eagles, Saints, Jets, and a few others that escape me right now.
Keeps me warm at night.
Keeps me warm at night.
quote:Originally posted by 4 Favre:
I disagree, CitizenDan. '98 wasn't as bad because while yes, the missed call gave the 49ers a chance to win the game that they shouldn't have had, we still had the opportunity to play defense and win the game.
True, the defense let GB down terribly on that drive. The difference, though, is that if the correct call had been made on the Rice play, the game would have effectively ended then and there.
And in '09, there's no telling what might have transpired had a personal foul been called. But one thing we do know is that Dansby's fumble return wouldn't have counted, and GB would have gotten 15 and a fresh set.
As pointed out, yes, fans have the option of staying angry about this as long as they want -- or just sitting back and seeing how things play out. I'm inclined to let the final chapter of the season be written before I spend much negative energy on what happened Monday.
The non-fumble in '98 would not have been the last play of the game so while it might have effectively ended then and there, there would have still been time and opportunity for the 9ers to make a play. (Miracle in the Meadowlands)
The '09 non-call is much more like this in that the game ended on the missed call.
The '09 non-call is much more like this in that the game ended on the missed call.
quote:Originally posted by 4 Favre:
I'm not moving on. I don't have to, I don't play the games. I think "Get over it" is the wrong approach for McCarthy as well. I think his lead should be they screwed us, but they can't and won't stop us the rest of the season.
I think it's the right approach by MM but I'm sure what is said inside the locker room is a little different from what is said in front of the media.
He's fine with playing with a chip on your shoulder or whatever else might motivate you. If that brings the team out a little more focused in the first half this week then it's all good.
http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...ks-high-school-game/
nothing to see here, move along
quote:But he still believes it was the right call.
“The replay guy just said there is nothing here that we can use to overturn it. It’s going to stand,” Elliott told FOX7 in Austin. (This confirm that, when it came to replay reviews during the lockout, non-replacement replay officials were actually usurping the authority of the on-field referees.)
As we recently explained, via the NFL’s rulebook and casebook, there was enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field, because Packers safety M.D. Jennings had “control” of the ball before Seahawks receiver Golden Tate, which is the key factor regardless of what happens as they land on the ground and wrestle for the ball. (Sorry, Seahawks truthers, but that’s the truth.)
nothing to see here, move along
I actually hope it ends up they face a team like Seattle in the playoffs because you know the players weren't happy with how Pete and Tate carried on after the game. They should have just STFU and said nothing about the outcome like MM did.
I love this from the citation:
In other words, the NFL issued a statement with the deliberate effort TO DECEIVE.
Which brings to mind another idea. You got your small lies and you got your big lies.
This is one gigantic lie.
Thanks, NFL. Thanks for revealing to us who you are.
quote:The NFL’s statement likely omitted that fact because the video shows Jennings “gained control” first.
In other words, the NFL issued a statement with the deliberate effort TO DECEIVE.
Which brings to mind another idea. You got your small lies and you got your big lies.
This is one gigantic lie.
Thanks, NFL. Thanks for revealing to us who you are.