Should be a holiday in WI. 

What are you guys doing for Lap Fallers Day ?

Isn't that the same as national stripper day? Could be confusing.

The guy I can't figure out the love for is Devin Funchess. Guy wants to be a WR because they get paid more but he's slow and doesn't move like a wideout, nor does he block like a TE. He's like Jermichael Finley with a peg leg.

Better a peg leg than a peg neck.

quote:

You're either going to be right, or you're going to be wrong.

He could be 50% right and 50% wrong.

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How could you argue with a guy who's  birthmark says : " Gods Gift"

Actually, it's the name Theodore that means "Gift of God".  (It's my name, and I'm God's gift to x4.  )

Ryan Taylor, unlike Brandon Bostick, wouldn't have screwed up the onside kick. 

"With a relatively stacked roster, it would be hard for Green Bay to carry nine rookies in 2015. So this could be a draft where Thompson moves up for a player he covets, much like he did in 2009 when he nabbed outside linebacker Clay Matthews."

 

IF ted moved up...who would it be for?

He ain't moving up. I think this draft is weak

I don't know if weak is the right word. It seems there are a lot of good, mid-round guys this year so getting more picks in the late third to mid-fifth is a great place to be, but late first to early third may mean over-drafting some guys. Receiver and RB look to be pretty deep while TE and ILB pretty bare.

The best football player on the board

You can tell Sherman didn't want Rodgers and didn't like the pick

We are so blesssed that small-brain wasn't calling the shots that fateful afternoon

 

He had his sights set on the kicker of the future Mike Nugent. He was even ready to part with those pesky 2nd round picks too, if only SF was more willing to trade. 

His quotes really showed why he was such a poor GM and why his drafts were atrocious.  Pass up better talent just to try and fill needs

Sherman's comments are off the charts. All of them. He truly would have gone to any length to make sure Brett's every wish was granted.  

I think Sherman was insecure enough to have felt he had to win that year, now with a new boss doing his old job.  Then his boss didn't do the thing to win quickly for his first act as a GM.   A complete about face from what Sherman's actions were as GM.  It seems to me that it would take a big man to accept that and have faith that they were a team and that they had a long term future.  Sherman was corporeal, but not the big man that was needed in that situation.  As a result, adios.

McGinn's series continues, here be QBs:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...130z1-301167651.html

 

And an extended look at Winston v. Mariota:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...128z1-301170101.html

 

Nice profile of Mariota here by SI's Doug Farrar:

 

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/...arcus-mariota-oregon

 

 

IMO. Mariota and Winston aren't 1st round talent. They just happen to be the two best QBs. Neither is making a bad team great. Or even good. Maybe better. Needing a QB sucks. 

I'm hoping 3 more QBs get taken before we pick at #30.

Just like HaHa last year, we get another lap faller

I think they are 1st round talent. Winston is a really good QB...I compare him to Big Ben or maybe Byron Leftwich in terms of talent and ability. He's a total wildcard as a person though, people are kidding themselves if they don't think he's capable of being a major embarrassment for his organization. It's not that he's a dummy, he seems smart which is the problem IMO. Cam Newton was/is a dum dum who was very immature in college (and might still be), but he at least realized he wasn't superman once NFL defenses got a hold of him. I'm not sure Winston will ever actually be humbled in the same way, he seems like he's either 100% on board and with the program or he pouts and quits.

Marietta is a first round talent, but I'm not sure a team will ever break him of his college tendencies. That spread is so unique there and his technique and mechanics are all over the map. If he could go to a team who would let him adjust to the NFL and learn to be a passer then he will be successful, but I doubt that happens. Teams won't have the patience to train him, they will change their offense to what he does and he won't learn anything...much like Cam Newton or Robert Griffin.

Ultimately both are 1st round caliber QBs who will need a lot of work before they will be franchise players.

Mariota needs to sit for 2 years to learn an NFL playbook.....but no team drafting him will give him that chance.  

 

Winston has as much talent as any QB in the last 5 years not names Luck....but he's not a good dude.  Even ignoring the the off the field stuff, he reminds me of Martel from The Replacements.  I'm not sure his teammates actually like him (ie: Jay Cutler 2.0).  

 

 

Agreed CUPF.

seconded

 

It's just amazing that teams will continue to fall over themselves and take crazy gambles to obtain a quarterback and in doing so will pass on outstanding prospects like Leonard Williams and Amari Cooper.  How anyone would rate Jameis Winston ahead of players like Williams and Cooper is just unbelievable?!?!  

I think Jameis will be a turnover machine the likes we've never seen before. Other than Jay Cutler that is. And when the time comes for him to get called out for it he's going to respond poorly. 

 

I like Mariota. Good kid. Good athltete. But he's not a first round talent. IMO he's getting a first round grade because he's 6'4" and runs a 4.5 40 and he happens to be the second best QB in the draft. He's Kaepernick with better Kharacter. 

 

Martell: This doesn't change anything, Falco. I'm an All-Pro quarterback. I've got TWO Super Bowl rings! You'll never be more than a replacement player.

 

Falco: Yeah....I can live with that.

Draft Day would not be complete, unless we re-live the 2007 draft once every year.

 

Mariotta has the size, speed, arm, and has shown the ability as a raw passer to be a franchise QB. He's knows how and when to escape the pocket and he can make all the throws on the run. To me he's definitely a 1st rounder, BUT you better have a dang good plan in place coaching him because his flaws could also ruin his career. He needs his footwork and mechanics overhauled, he needs to learn how to actually read a D and make a decision as a passer, and he needs to learn to work under center; that sounds like an easy switch, but it will be a major adjustment for him. Mariotta is like a mansion that had a really eccentric previous owner, you will have to gut the house and start over and it may end up just being a money pit, but if you do it right you will get a really nice return on your investment.

Old story, but always fun to listen to Ron Wolf (John Dorsey too) 

 

That would have been killer.

Not the last time someone took at stab at him. 

Maybe living in God's country would have made Ray a more simple man, maybe a more simple crime would've satisfied. Nothing like a "dine n' dash" at Marc's Big Boy to get the juices flowing !! 

 

HEY!!! There shall no such tired puns in this here thread celebrating the holiest time of the Feast of Thompson! Take your saucy language elsewhere!!

 

G'wan now! Git!!

British slurs are poor form, Rusty.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft20...-surges-draft-boards

 

Good story about this D-III prospect.  If you can play, the NFL will find you.  

Hobart is 15 minutes from my home & I know a number of people within their athletic program, it has been a great story to follow. Kid seems well liked by everyone on campus. 

If my memory serves, P'dog, I think Lewis was every bit the thug when he first came into the league. Had the posse that would hang at the clubs, multiple kids with multiple women, and a sketchy past.

I do think he made personal life changes after the stabbing in Atlanta, and got away from most of that crap that was putting him in bad situations. But the damage was already done, IMHO.

Draft:
1. Tampa Bay/Jameis Winston/QB/FSU
*Not sure why Tampa hasn’t already signed him?

2. Tennessee / Leonard Williams/DE/USC
*Best player in the draft, Whisenhunt will stick with Mettenberger

3. Jacksonville/Dante Fowler Jr./DE/Florida
*Easy pick for the Jags who need to pressure Luck

4. Oakland/ Amari Cooper/WR/Alabama
*Great fit, gives Carr a great target

5. Washington/Vic Beasley/DE/Clemson
*Badly need pass rush help, fantastic pass rusher

6. New York Jets/Marcus Mariota/QB/Oregon
*Jets give up on Geno, I don’t blame them

7. Chicago /Randy Gregory/DE/Nebraska
*John Fox needs a 34 pass rusher

8. Atlanta/Shane Ray/DE/Missouri
*Dan Quinn gets a big pass rush boost

9. New York Giants/ Brandon Scherff/OT/Iowa
*How long has their OL been a mess? They need help badly

10. St. Louis /Andrus Peat/OT/Stanford
*Jake Long was a bust, need to give Foles(or whoever the QB is?) some help

11. Minnesota/Kevin White/WR/West Virginia
*Bridgewater needs an actual receiver, not whatever Patterson is

12. Cleveland/Danny Shelton/DT/Washington
*Continue to build up a defense that might be pretty good

13. New Orleans/Erik Kendricks/LB/UCLA
*Need an ILB badly and Kendricks could be a good one

14. Miami/DeVante Parker/WR/Louisville
*Tannehill needs some kind of receiver

15. San Francisco/Jalen Collins/CB/LSU
*Do they have any CBs left?

16. Houston/Todd Gurley/RB/Georgia
*Surprise pick, but they can’t keep relying on Foster

17. San Diego/Melvin Gordon/RB/Wisconsin
*Do they have any RBs left?

18. Kansas City/La’el Collins/OT/LSU
*They have some pieces, but need better protection

19. Cleveland/Ereck Flowers/OT/Miami
*Joe Thomas won’t be bailing them out forever

20. Philadelphia/Nelson Agholor/WR/USC
*Why wouldn’t Chip Kelly pick a WR when he has 30 other needs?

21. Cincinnati/Bud Dupree/DE/Kentucky
*Michael Johnson is back after stealing from Tampa, need some youth though

22. Pittsburgh/Trae Waynes/CB/MSU
*Need a shut down corner to replace Ike Taylor

23. Detroit/Malcolm Brown/DT/Texas
*Do they have any DTs left?

24. Arizona/Byron Jones/CB/UConn
*Need a replacement for Cromartie

25. Carolina/Phillip Dorsett/WR/Miami
*Speedster to pair with the gigantic Kel Benjamin

26. Baltimore/Marcus Peters/CB/Washington
*Ozzie not afraid to take CBs with risky character

27. Dallas/Bernardrick McKinney/LB/Miss. St.
*Athletic boost in the middle for the Cowgirls

28. Denver/Breshard Perriman/WR/UCF
*Need a speedster to go with D. Thomas

29. Indianapolis/DJ Humphries/OL/Florida
*Their OL is pathetic...

30. Green Bay/Stephone Anthony/ILB/Clemson
*Actually knows how to play ILB which is a welcomed change. All aspects of his game are solid and he’s a good fit scheme wise. Will be a better pro than college player IMO.

31. New Orleans (from SEA)/Eddie Goldman/DT/Florida St.
*Rebuilding that D with a quality NT

32. New England/Kevin Johnson/CB/Wake Forest
*Do they have any CBs left?
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62. Ameer Abdullah/RB/Nebraska
*Rumors say GB likes him. Good slashing, change of pace back who will eventually be the 3rd down guy. Fills the need left by Jonathan Franklin that no one last year could fill.

94 D’Joun Smith/CB/Florida Atlantic
*A little short (5’10") , but is a really good football player with solid instincts, ball skills, and athleticism. Actually reminds me of Nick Collins except he belongs at CB.

129. Jeff Heuerman/TE/Ohio St.
*Not used to his potential, best football is definitely in front of him. He’s big and athletic, is experienced being used as a Y, and is a solid in-line and split out blocker.

166. Tray Walker/CB/Texas Southern
*Big time sleeper who didn’t go to the combine, but apparently has wowed at the regional combines. Sounds like a rangy athletic cover corner with a high ceiling.

205. Reshard Cliett/LB/South Florida
*Good size and very aggressive player who was always on terrible defenses.

210. Hutson Mason/QB/Georgia
*Interesting player to me. Never did anything highly impressive college, just managed the offense there. Only had 1 season as starter, but he’s accurate, takes care of the ball, and can throw the deep ball… sounds like a McCarthy QB.

212. Laurence Gibson/OT/Virginia Tech
*Very raw, athletic OT who needs a lot of work, but has the physical tools to be really good.

247. Corey Crawford/DE/Clemson
*Fantastic size at 6’5”/299 lbs, but is up and down in terms of performance. Shows dominance and poor technique at times, worth the late round gamble as he has a high ceiling.

Kevin Johnson would be really tough to pass up at 30. That's a lot of value. My Kendricks dream is slowly dying like my Mosley dream last year. Like Heuerman. 

Your mock draft is way better than Kiper & McShay

Great work GD, I too really like Anthony & Abdullah (one scout said he was highest character guy he had ever rated). A lot of injury / character question marks with potential first round picks starting right at the top with Winston. Others:

 

Peters CB U of Wash. - some rate him as the second best corner but he was dismissed from his college team for insubordination

Gregory DE nebraska & Collins CB LSU have had some difficulty with testing positive for marijuana, smoking it it not a huge deal in itself, but makes you question the self disciple if doing it, knowing you will have a consequence for it

Gurley & Ray have some injury concerns.

 

My biggest question is Dawson, the LBer from TCU. Maylock says that when watching tape he is hands-down the best ILBer in the draft, however he was awful at the combine(seemed totally unprepared, & some questions about accountability (late for meetings, etc.) 

McGinn previews OL prospects:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...136z1-301296461.html

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...134z1-301296701.html

If you want a buzz kill on Dawson, then listen to Aaron Nagler's podcast with Eric Stoner:

 

Aaron Nagler from Cheesehead TV

 

If there isn't a CB like those listed above, I pray to trade back to the first 1/2 of 2nd round and then take best ILB available.

Damning with faint praise....

My thoughts on taking a RB in the first two rounds have been stated already but I wouldn't mind Abdullah one bit.  Super high character guy who actually would fit as a third down guy, return man, and legit backup to Lacy.  Even as a backup, he'd still be able to get on the field plenty his rookie year.  Plus, he killed it for my college fantasy team last year.

 

And while I like Anthony, I've yet to read a mock that says he was a legit first round talent.  Of course I base all this on no scouting of my own (haven't gotten around to watch "tape" yet).  But if he's the guy, seems like TT could get him later in the second.  Hope he has the chance to trade back and still get him.  

Abdullah is so damn shifty and elusive that he would be very good with screens and other things GB likes to do with their backs.

The other factor is he is a very good return guy