Packers are right on the cusp of a SB and their main issue is the ILB situation. I would take Kendricks for their lat 2nd in a heartbeat. Trade down from RD1 into mid 2nd and get another pick in RD4 or so on top of it. Find CB depth and DL depth from there on out
Yes I know Ted won't do it but let me enjoy this for a few minutes
Packers are right on the cusp of a SB and their main issue is the ILB situation. I would take Kendricks for their lat 2nd in a heartbeat. Trade down from RD1 into mid 2nd and get another pick in RD4 or so on top of it. Find CB depth and DL depth from there on out
My thoughts exactly except I'd add OL also. Mychal only turns 25 in September.
The Eagles won't get anything close for a second rounder for Kendricks. They showed their hand when they dealt for Alonso. They want length at linebacker, they don't want Kendricks. The draft is on their doorstep, if they want additional help in 2015 they have to deal him now and take what they can get. Every team knows this and every team will low ball them. Kendricks is a solid/good player but he's not the type that teams are going to get into a bidding war over.
The Eagles might not get a 2 for Kendricks, but it won't be because he isn't a terrific player. It's because Kendricks is going into the last year of his rookie contract and is in line for a huge pay day.
Trade a 3rd year second round pick that has performed well to get what they can get. That's good front office work.
You seem to be confusing "they don't want Kendricks" with "Chip doesn't want Kendricks" but we'll get back to that.
So they trade Kendricks for what they can get because they desire length. Stands to reason getting the additional help you speak of in 2015 would include an ILB because they'd be counting on a starter with 2 ACL blowouts that missed all of 2014 (Kiko) and a 30 year old that missed half of 2014 with a torn Achilles (Ryans...By the way Demeco is a "legitimate" 6'1"). The reason they probably want an ILB in the draft after trading Kendricks to get what they can get is because the backup to Kiko and Demeco would be Brad Jones.
Chip is doing everything he can to get to number 2 in the draft to get his QB. That's what everyone knows. He's done a completely ****ty job of disguising it. If a team low balls him it's not because Kendricks is 5'11". It's because Chip is a ****ty poker player.
McGinn's series concludes.
Outlook for Packers: http://www.jsonline.com/sports...463z1-301784061.html
First round mock: http://www.jsonline.com/sports...465z1-301778881.html
Mocking a Packers trade-out? He might get that right.
If Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft and if Tennessee is trying to trade out (showing they want an unwarranted ransom for Mariota, whom they don't really want), why give up the farm? Call their bluff, they can take Mariota (and quite possibly be stuck with him if they don't become reasonable) or, if they take Williams trade with the more reasonable Reggie McKenzie because Williams will be off the board.
Terrible article by McGinn. So he hasn't done well with his past predictions, so what Bob, we know you are like everyone else and can't see the future. So instead of actually making a prediction, he just names every defensive player that's projected to be picked anywhere from 12 to 50 overall as a possibility for Green Bay. Wonderful insight there.
Now Ted will probably trade up for an offensive player just to spite him. D.J. Humphries or Melvin Gordon anyone? But as far as serious trade up scenarios, if Kevin Johnson makes it down to 27, then why wouldn't Thompson give serious consideration to trade to get him. The Cowboys move down three spots and can still get a cornerback with baggage (just how the Cowboys like their players) or an inside linebacker, so the price would probably be reasonable. The Packers get an excellent cornerback with solid character that can line up and play right away.
And Bryce Petty at 31. Not saying it can't happen...when it comes to quarterbacks anything can happen. But boy oh boy I just don't see all those quarterbacks not named Winston or Mariota being anywhere near first round territory. Middle of round three is more like it...and that is probably still a little higher than those guys should go.
I have a feeling Garrett Grayson and Hundley go before Petty.
Nothing would be better for the Packers though if one of those QBs (Petty, Hundley, Grayson) do carry a possible first round grade on some team's board. That means they would have to get one spot ahead of New Orleans #31 pick. Maybe someone is willing to dramatically overpay to get to #30....to draft Petty . The Jets maybe?
I think we'll try Al's Beef. Probably Portillos too
FWIW, Mrs. Coach who grew up in Hoffman Estates endorses Giordano's for deep dish pizza. Her best friend from high school who still lives up there swears by Portillo's.
FIBS.....
Giordano's and it isn't even close when you are in Chicago. Be prepared for a very long wait though. Another thing I would do is head down to Wrigleyville. It requires putting up with Cubs fans but there is a Wisconsin themed bar there that is about 2 blocks from the stadium.
If you want something completely different, there's Tre Kroner over on Foster Avenue for Scandanavian fare.
Any idea what time the 30th pick goes off tonight ?
And how effing retarded is it to give the Bucs ten minutes on live TV. You've had 5 months, make the damn pick and move on for cripes sake. Sheesh ~ !
But, but some other team might offer them the moon at the last second.........
I can see the Packers trading back, but not all the way to 58.
I don't recall TT making a draft day trade for a future year draft pick.
Whoa.
@JayGlazer: Scoopage: Agent for LSU's La'el Collins trying to pull him from this draft allowing him time to clear his name then enter Supplemental Draft.
@JayGlazer: Most are asking for a full police report clearing him before they are willing to draft him. Collins is slated to meet w police.
@JayGlazer: NFL's call if Collins can get pulled from this draft.
Vikings fans post 2014 pick: "Y U NO GET JONNY FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!!"
Jets fans post 2015 pick: "Y U NO GET JAYMIS MARIWANA?!?!?!?!!?!?!"
I will not be missing the Jets fans at the draft
If you are the Bucs and the Eagles offer you Sam Bradford, Vinny Curry, Fletcher Cox, Kendricks, Mathis and their 1st and 2nd this year, do you make that deal? Those are all names that are being reported as on the table.
@wasram: According to @RapSheet the @ChicagoBears are in contact with Titans to move up to 2nd overall to draft Mariota. #Bears #2015NFLDraft
Dumbest. Trade. Evar.
So I was catching up on the La'el Collins situation and I think it could get pretty interesting. He wants in on the supplemental draft which gives him the opportunity to still be a "first round" pick (more likely second round though). But if he goes undrafted, which is sounding like a possibility, can he sign with any team he wants for any amount of money? It'd be pretty interesting to see what the true market value for a top 15 player is.
It would take some serious legal gymnastics to get him to the Supplemental draft. The CBA doesn't appear to allow it, per Andrew Brandt.
I will not be missing the Jets fans at the draft
Sorry, boss
@BuzzFeedSports: A Chicago news station brought Jets fans to town for #NFLDraft so they can continue tradition of booing their picks https://t.co/tqycaiFKZx
Trade Cutler to Tampa and swap Smokin' Jay for Rapin' Jay.
If I'm da Bears I keep Cutler and fix that ****ty offensive line. It did wonders for Romo.
So that makes it even more interesting. Does a team use a 7th rounder on him? Those are practically throw away picks anyway, with such a low percentage turning out to be NFL caliber players. Obviously the risk is that he is eventually arrested and introduced as "Green Bay Packers offensive tackle, La'el Collins". This would be the closest to a complete gamble on a player in NFL history, since teams likely will have zero info on the case by the end of the draft (police are not going to tip their hand DURING an investigation for purposes of the NFL draft). Oh and to those saying that the police are not calling him a suspect....please. Unless it's obvious, they never release "suspects" to the media. It's always "person of interest".
I'll be honest, behind the Packers picks, this is the most interesting story of the draft.
If you are the Bucs and the Eagles offer you Sam Bradford, Vinny Curry, Fletcher Cox, Kendricks, Mathis and their 1st and 2nd this year, do you make that deal? Those are all names that are being reported as on the table.
Yes.
I'd do that too. Bucs have so many holes and with their lack of veteran leadership on the offensive side of the ball, Winston is at huge risk of having no one to teach him how to be in NFL player (which IMO, is his biggest risk) which will make him a bust.
If Collins goes undrafted he falls into the UDFA category and would be in the rookie cap pool. They (UDFAs) sign minimum rookie deals and there is a signing bonus cap for UDFA's as well.
Ah bummer. I was hoping this would like free agency for a first round rookie. Could have been cool to see what would have happened. If he really wasn't involved in this, this really sucks for him. He'll miss out on millions for something completely out of his control, ie: just knowing a murder victim. Of course, if he was involved.......
If you are the Bucs and the Eagles offer you Sam Bradford, Vinny Curry, Fletcher Cox, Kendricks, Mathis and their 1st and 2nd this year, do you make that deal? Those are all names that are being reported as on the table.
The only reason I bring this up is that Chip Kelly seems to be willing to do what ever it takes to land Mariota, at least if what is being reported has any credibility, which I know is doubtful this time of year. If at all true however, the Bucs seem like the trading partner that makes the most sense. The holes that they need to fill seem to match up with the players being talked about, also, that trade seems to create a team that Lovie Smith could coach. I wonder how fall Winston would fall if the Bucs and Eagles made a trade.
@AlbertBreer: Redskins have worked trade-down scenarios with other clubs, I'm told. But if a deal is going to happen, it'll be on the clock. Here's why...
@AlbertBreer: ... Execution of a deal down from 5 hinges on 2 things: a) whether a player Skins covet falls to 5; b) the other team's target being there.
Posting most for the novelty of the Redskins' looking at doing things sensibly. Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen don't deserve competence.
I'm amazed he didn't workout with the 49ers, then again it was during the Singletary regime.
IIRC his drinking problem came to the fore when in SF and re-emerged during his consulting stint in Seattle.
Sherman had a lot of really good personnel guys around him. He just needed to listen to them.
"I'm still not telling you who I'm picking, Mike."
I want to get vintage 'war room' wallpaper for my den.
He built up the talent pool for the 49ers during his time there (Singletary was the problem in SF), and Baalke/York are busy tearing it all down. I'm loving it.
I have to admit I'm not really caring about the Packers #1 pick at all tonight. Much more excited about Melvin Gordon and Trae Waynes. Hopefully those guys will go high and to teams where the situation is right for them (unfortunately Trae could wind up with Minnesota...but I think they will go offense to help Bridgewater).
Who is that on Infante's right? Braatz?
Other than Mandarich, of course, the first 6 round picks were pretty decent. Can't say I remember any of those other guys...
Guaranteed the Ravens take the player we want in round 1.
i think we got our pick at who the top ilb will be
give me a boner ted!
can randall play cover corner?
Can't believe the Saints got the ILB I liked.
Think for sure a decent one will be there in round two.
Guaranteed the Ravens take the player we want in round 1.
I was surprised by the Randall pick. He figured to be a solid top 45 player, but I figured Ted would slightly downgrade him to a late second round grade based on the 5-10 7/8. He's the first sub 5-11 defensive back that Ted has drafted since 2005.
There is no sense to puss out like McGinn just because Ted threw everyone a curveball in round one. Time for day two speculation and predictions.
Not only Eric Rowe, but there appeared to be a bunch of defensive backs the Packers would like at the end of round two (Alex Carter, Josh Shaw). Now with Shields, Heyward, Hyde, Randall, Goodson, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo...the Packers certainly have room for 10 DBs on the roster but they probably won't want to add #10 this early.
If DE-Mario Edwards/Florida State makes it down to the end of round two, he'd probably be the most attractive player on the board. But the big question is will Ted continue to ignore the ILB position? Here's my list of who I think the Packers would take at #62, and this would be the Packer's order of perference.
1. Denzel Perryman/ILB/Miami, Fl
2. Mario Edwards Jr/DE/Florida State
3. Clive Walford/TE/Miami, Fl
4. David Johnson/RB/Northern Iowa
5. Eric Rowe/CB/Utah
It gets harder and harder to predict which players will be available at #62, but I think all of these guys could be there. If all these players get cleaned out then the pick could be a dropper running back (Coleman, Ajayi, Abdullah) or another defensive back (the already mentioned Alex Carter or Josh Shaw). I really don't think Ted wants to take another DB this early, so if that's the scenario he gets stuck with then he'll look to trade down. If Kendricks or McKinney drop far enough then he could look to trade up, but both probably are drafted in the top 50 and would command too much to move up. But in the end I'll say Perryman at #62....if he's off the board then Edwards at #62...etc.
Round three, I think the guy that Ted would like would be Colorado State offensive tackle Ty Sambrailo. But if Ted doesn't get an ILB in round two, can he wait any longer to get one? I don't think he can. If the Packer's don't take an ILB in round two, I think the round three prefered players will look something like:
1. Jake Ryan/ILB/Michigan
2. Kwon Alexander/ILB/Louisiana State
3. Ty Sambrailo/OT/Colorado State
4. Marcus Hardison/DE/Arizona State
5. MyCole Pruitt/TE/Southern Illinois
6. Craig Mager/CB/Texas State
If Ted does land an ILB in round two, then just knock Ryan and Alexander off the board and the list is Sambrailo, Hardison, Pruitt, Mager.
Gut feeling is that Perryman does somehow make it to #62 and the Packers end up with Denzel Perryman in round two and Ty Sambrailo in round three. I suppose about the worst case scenario is that Perryman and Edwards are both gone at 62 and the Packers end up with Clive Walford at #62 and Jake Ryan at #94. I don't mind Ryan at #94, but to me Walford is a bit over-rated and the end of round two seems a bit high...I think tight end value is better a little later on.
And it was wonderful to see both Waynes and Gordon be picked in the top half of round one last night.
I like Steve Nelson from Oregon St also
Packers first round surprise pick is cool:
- because every single one of the hot rumors/insiders/friends with privileges... got it RONG
every?
I'm guessing Ted picks Damarious Randall out of Arizona State
Boris asked me to post this for him.
I'm guessing Ted picks Damarious Randall out of Arizona State
Woooooo You Da Man !
Can't believe I doubted your omniscience
Wonder what they will say tomorrow.
@AdamSchefter: La'el Collins and his reps have decided if he's not selected tonight he will not sign a contract with a team and will re-enter draft next year.
Boris asked me to post this for him.
The draft is in Chicago?????
Damn, I thought Radio City Music Hall was rather quiet. And to think I've been standing here since Wednesday. 
Wonder what they will say tomorrow.
@AdamSchefter: La'el Collins and his reps have decided if he's not selected tonight he will not sign a contract with a team and will re-enter draft next year.
Smert move!
you will not see him at the pancake social either
yeah, I didn't think it worked that way. You get one shot at putting you name in the draft. You'd think Adam would know that.
@PackersNotes: The more I read about _____, the more I _____ him. Stop reading. Most people don't know ****. You'll start getting real answers soon enough.
Brandt's tweets shouldn't be missed...million dollar advice here.
Best thing for La'el Collins business-wise may be to go undrafted, sign three-year deal (drafted players have to sign four-year deals).
But if he gets picked, can't he hold out and not sign? Then he'd have to go back into the draft next year (ie: Bo Jackson), likely being a first or second round pick. And if he goes undrafted, he could refuse to sign with a team and then he'd either go back into the draft, or be a street free agent (not sure exactly how it works, but has to be one of those options). Both those options seem to work better for him than being a late round pick.
This draft has exposed me to more ways to spell Michael then I ever cared to know.
He could play in CFL for one year, then have his pick of any team he wants
Point worth remembering. Packers do as well with UDFAs as anybody.
@JeffAshPG: #Packers already wooing players who may go undrafted. Having no 7th-round pick may give them head start.
He could play in CFL for one year, then have his pick of any team he wants
Yeah what would stop him from doing this? If he goes the UDFA route, he's playing for the minimum salary for 4 years. If he plays in the CFL for a year, doesn't he just become a free agent that can sign with any team for any amount of money? Definitely a rare case but not sure why this wouldn't work.
I'll give it a shot:
1. Jameis Winston/QB/Florida State
2. Marcus Mariota/QB/Oregon
3. Leonard Williams/DT/Southern California
4. Amari Cooper/WR/Alabama
5. Dante Fowler Jr./OLB/Florida
6. Kevin White/WR/West Virginia
7. Brandon Scherff/OT/Iowa
8. Todd Gurley/RB/Georgia
9. Trae Waynes/CB/Michigan State
10. Andrus Peat/OT/Stanford
11. DeVante Parker/WR/Louisville
12. Malcom Brown/DT/Texas
13. D.J. Humphries/OT/Florida
14. Alvin Dupree/OLB/Kentucky
15. Arik Armstead/DE/Oregon
16. Vic Beasley/DE/Clemson
17. Shane Ray/OLB/Missouri
18. Danny Shelton/DT/Washington
19. Melvin Gordon/RB/Wisconsin
20. Randy Gregory/DE/Nebraska
21. Ereck Flowers/OT/Miami, Fl
22. Kevin Johnson/WR/Wake Forest
23. Landon Collins/S/Alabama
24. Eddie Goldman/DT/Florida State
25. Eli Harold/OLB/Virginia
26. Byron Jones/CB/Connecticut
27. Nelson Agholor/WR/Southern California
28. Breshad Perriman/WR/Central Florida
29. Marcus Peters/CB/Washington
30. Eric Kendricks/ILB/UCLA
31. La'el Collins/OG/Louisiana State
32. Jalen Collins/CB/Louisiana State
33. Owamagbe Odighizuwa/OLB/UCLA
34. Jordan Phillips/DT/Oklahoma
35. Cameron Erving/C/Florida State
36. Preston Smith/DE/Mississippi State
37. P.J. Williams/CB/Florida State
38. Jaelen Strong/WR/Arizona State
39. Damarious Randall/S/Arizona State
40. Jake Fisher/OT/Oregon
41. Dorial Green-Beckham/WR/Oklahoma
42. T.J. Clemmings/OT/Pittsburgh
43. Ronald Darby/CB/Florida State
44. Tevin Coleman/RB/Indiana
45. Maxx Williams/TE/Minnesota
46. Phillip Dorsett/WR/Miami, Fl
47. Carl Davis/DT/Iowa
48. Mario Edwards Jr./DE/Florida State
49. Benardrick McKinney/ILB/Mississippi State
50. Cedric Ogbuehi/OT/Texas A&M
51. Stephone Anthony/ILB/Clemson
52. Michael Bennett/DT/Ohio State
53. Shaq Thompson/OLB/Washington
54. Sammie Coates/WR/Auburn
55. Devin Smith/WR/Ohio State
56. Jay Ajayi/RB/Boise State
57. Nate Orchard/OLB/Utah
58. Ameer Abdullah/RB/Nebraska
59. Denzel Perryman/ILB/Miami, Fl
60. Duke Johnson/RB/Miami, Fl
61. Quinten Rollins/CB/Miami, OH
62. A.J. Cann/OG/South Carolina
63. Danielle Hunter/DE/Louisiana State
64. Laken Tomlinson/OG/Duke
65. Paul Dawson/ILB/Texas Christian
66. Eric Rowe/CB/Utah
67. Donovan Smith/OG/Penn State
68. Tre' Jackson/OG/Florida State
69. T.J. Yeldon/RB/Alabama
70. Jaquiski Tartt/S/Samford
71. Lorenzo Mauldin/OLB/Louisville
72. Tyler Lockett/WR/Kansas State
73. Devin Funchess/WR/Michigan
74. Clive Walford/TE/Miami, Fl
75. David Johnson/RB/Northern Iowa
76. Senquez Golson/CB/Mississippi
77. Grady Jarrett/DT/Clemson
78. Brett Hundley/QB/UCLA
79. D'Joun Smith/CB/Florida Atlantic
80. Ali Marpet/C/Hobart
81. Alex Carter/CB/Stanford
82. Josh Shaw/CB/Southern California
83. Doran Grant/CB/Ohio State
84. Tre McBride/WR/William & Mary
85. Rashad Greene/WR/Florida State
86. Xavier Cooper/DT/Washington State
87. Charles Gaines/CB/Louisville
88. Jeremy Langford/RB/Michigan State
89. Gabe Wright/DT/Auburn
90. Hauoli Kikaha/OLB/Washington
91. Tyler Kroft/TE/Rutgers
92. Marcus Hardison/DE/Arizona State
93. Ty Sambrailo/OT/Colorado State
94. Jeremiah Poutasi/OT/Utah
95. Kwon Alexander/OLB/Louisiana State
96. Chris Conley/WR/Georgia
97. Steven Nelson/CB/Oregon State
98. Hroniss Grasu/C/Oregon
99. Za'Darius Smith/DE/Kentucky
100. Trey Flowers/DE/Arkansas
Curses. McGinn edges me by one. I ended up with 82.
Top score this year was 84.
88
88 is Montgomery's jersey.
Full circle.
I'll give it a shot:
99. Za'Darius Smith/DE/Kentucky
100.101 Trey Flowers/DE/Arkansas
Curses. McGinn edges me by one. I ended up with 82.
Top score this year was 84.
In your defense, Trey Flowers was drafted 101 
88
88 is outstanding!
Your draft predictions have really impressed the past few years.
Todd Gurley will wear Zac Stacy’s old number. https://t.co/5HCFuoydx6
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) May 4, 2015Take 2: No FSU/Oregon QB drafted in 1st round has NFL winning record: Ponder, Manuel, Clemens, Harrington, Akili Smith, Chris Miller.
— Kevin Seifert (@SeifertESPN) May 5, 2015
Yikes... and people blasted the Tedord QBs.
bunch of chumps, but it is also some selective sorting
Dan Fouts was an Oregon QB with a winning record, but he was a 3rd rounder
Couple corrections. Kellen Clemens was a 2nd round pick, and George Shaw from Oregon was also a 1st round pick (also a losing record)
I love that all 2 of the FSU QBs and all 4 of the Oregon QBs drafted in 1st round allow one to make an implied prediction. DERP.
HAY GUIZE - ALL WEST VIRGINIA QBS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST ROUND (Geno Smith) ARE BUSTS, SO GOOD DRAFT STRATEGERY IS TO NEVER DRAFT A WVU QB IN 1ST ROUND!
I IS SMRT!
I remember when the rule was never draft an FSU D-Lineman
That was for Goalline's sake.
53 man roster story already. He has Ringo on practice squad....
http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/...443309a5b0-224860697
Well well well.
@NFLCharean: Cowboys have signed La'el Collins, according to a source.
@DanWetzel: "If he wasn't involved in a murder, great value" -- the NFL these days.
So Dallas ends up with 3 1st round talents pretty much. Just what that OL needed, another top tier prospect to add to it
Jerruh going all out regardless of character to try and give Romo as many pieces as possible before the window closes on the Romo era. Dude's got maybe 3-4 years left.
@RapSheet: The #Cowboys deal for #LSU OL La’El Collins is for 3 years, fully guaranteed, per source. (@NFLCharean had it first).
@RapSheet: The #Cowboys monitored La’El Collins’ situation from the beginning, doing endless homework. They nearly drafted him a few times.
@RapSheet: How much are the #Cowboys paying La’El Collins as a signing bonus? All the money left in their undrafted free agent pool.
@AlbertBreer: Per source, La'el Collins' 3-year deal is worth about $1.7 million. It's fully guaranteed, which is believed to be unprecedented for a UDFA.
@adbrandt: Strategy of getting to undrafted FA works for La'el Collins. Fully guaranteed 3 yr deal w/Dallas, no offsets, can renegotiate after two.
Stupid not to draft him in the seventh round, then. Under slotted, non-guaranteed contract, probably cheaper, for 4 vice 3 years.
True, but at the time he was still being questioned and nobody really knew how serious things were. No team was going to risk selecting him at all for fear of backlash if things turned out to be more serious
As it is, Cowboys land themselves a 1st round talent and we know Jerry likely paid him some more under the table to get things done. Even with their draft haul, they still are behind GB and SEA IMO. Not a lot separates GB and Dallas in terms of rosters except for one thing, the most important thing...Rodgers is a better QB than Romo
There is always that surprise team or 2 every year but right now I'm not sure what other team in the NFC can stack up to GB/SEA/DAL this season.
My Darkhorses this year....
Atlanta & Washington
Mark it down!
@DanWetzel: "If he wasn't involved in a murder, great value Jerry will be disappointed" -- the NFL these days.
FTFY
True, but at the time he was still being questioned and nobody really knew how serious things were. No team was going to risk selecting him at all for fear of backlash if things turned out to be more serious
LOL, backlash? Jerruh doesn't even know what the word means.
Since I can't have my dream scenario of the Vikings spending a Day 1/2 pick on him, this will have to do instead.