Silverstein made a point that I have been thinking about. MLF seems to be conflicted as to what he wants the offense to be. Last year it was spread people out and then when you saw a light box, run Jones. This year it has been more condensed formations and establish Jacobs. I just don't know if that is the best approach for MLF's offense. I think back to his year as OC at the Titans with Derrick Henry, something like 28th in the league in offense. Logic says we should be a smash-mouth team with Jacobs, but we really don't have that type of offensive line.
@FLPACKER posted:Silverstein made a point that I have been thinking about. MLF seems to be conflicted as to what he wants the offense to be. Last year it was spread people out and then when you saw a light box, run Jones. This year it has been more condensed formations and establish Jacobs. I just don't know if that is the best approach for MLF's offense. I think back to his year as OC at the Titans with Derrick Henry, something like 28th in the league in offense. Logic says we should be a smash-mouth team with Jacobs, but we really don't have that type of offensive line.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:The issue with changing out the WRs is that it takes guys a lot of reps to get on the same page, and........
Your full post was pretty good, solid points. But the snippet above is the first sentence in your post, and I don't really agree with it at all. At least not regarding really good WRs/WR 1. And that's what the Packers need - a veteran, really good WR. Love has shown he's good enough to play QB in the NFL at a high level (IMO). He would need training camp and preseason reps "to get on the same page" with a really solid WR. I don't see why it would (automatically) take longer. Plenty of WRs and TEs go to new teams and have immediate impacts.
I think Gute's #1 priority in the offseason would be targeting a true #1 via FA or trade.
Adios Key..
Keisean Nixon after a season with the new kickoff:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) January 13, 2025
"I don’t really want to do it no more. There’s going to be talks with the coaching staff and stuff like that, but I think it’s over with for me."
"I want to be CB1. CB1 is not doing kick returns. That’s just what it is."
Doubs, man, hang 'em up. the brain can only take so much.
Talk radio ripped on Jalen Hurts for holding the ball too long. I think that is bullshit, GB left him alone all day, why not hold the ball. I think the corners did a good job so it was mostly dink and dunk, but no pass rush with all that investment on the DL is embarrassing. Need Dean Lowry back.
As for GB not having an identity on offence... I also think that is bullshit. Jacobs can be my RB any day. Great offenses have great passing and great running. Build for that.
Agree we need to throw to the TE more. And more rushing attempts.
I think GB spends some money this offseason
@Chongo posted:Adios Key..
Horrible take. I see him as CB1 and WR 2 next year
Can't argue with him not wanting to do KOs; it should be a younger, speedier guy. (and I wonder if they'll even keep the new KO rules) But, I'd also argue that Jaire is your CB1 when healthy and Nixon is 2. But if this is how Nixon handles business -- through the press -- that's not good either. What he said is something you talk to the coaches about privately first, not by opening your yap in public.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:As for GB not having an identity on offence... I also think that is bullshit. Jacobs can be my RB any day. Great offenses have great passing and great running. Build for that.
That's what the comment about identity meant. I don't think being better in one facet means you can't be good in both. The point Silverstein was making in that video was MLF needs to figure out how to get the passing game working again but also getting it to work with what JJ does best. That is not as easy as it sounds.
Jacobs is not a third down back that can come in cold and get you 5-6yds or run a precise route as a receiver. He can catch the ball but his value is in running the ball on a consistent basis. It's not as easy for your QB to get in rhythm if you're not throwing on a consistent basis. They need to find the right balance for both to work and make each other better.
M not panicking about Love like some, but this is damn clever
— Nickmercs (@NICKMERCS) January 12, 2025
I think the current offense is more condensed is that IHMO it fits Jacobs style better and because they are forced to run more because they didn't have Watson for any solid amount of time and Doubs as well. Those two (and Reed) are the closest thing they have to receivers the opponents have to account for.
I don't think you need to empty or blow up the receiver room what they need is an influx of talent, a veteran, and mandatory jugs catching passes.
@DH13 posted:That's what the comment about identity meant. I don't think being better in one facet means you can't be good in both. The point Silverstein was making in that video was MLF needs to figure out how to get the passing game working again but also getting it to work with what JJ does best. That is not as easy as it sounds.
Jacobs is not a third down back that can come in cold and get you 5-6yds or run a precise route as a receiver. He can catch the ball but his value is in running the ball on a consistent basis. It's not as easy for your QB to get in rhythm if you're not throwing on a consistent basis. They need to find the right balance for both to work and make each other better.
Thank you, DH. This is what I have been saying about a "herky-jerky" offense. MLF has not been able to find a good flow in his playcalls between Jacobs' running and Love's passing. If he gets one going, the other sinks. I think Love plays better if he has to throw a lot, and MLF seems to do a better job calling a variety of pass plays than running plays. But he cannot ignore what Jacobs brings to this offense, and he deserves his touches, too. Something has to give or MLF has to figure out how to keep everyone happy because something's not right.
@Herschel posted:Nixon should be a dime back.
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First time poster.... long time lurker....
I would love to see Love more under center. Play action can make even less than stellar QB's look good. Defenses will have to guess if it is a run or a pass.... and with Josh Jacobs running style that a real weapon. We need to invest in o-line and D-line... and of course corners. We can take a flyer on a speedy wide out to help displace the loss of Watson. Just need to get someone who can catch the ball if it is near them. With the other receivers we have they can mix up the short to intermediate routes.... But please get some plays for 2 of our most dangerous weapons (Kraft- my fav... and Musgrave) Musgrave was lost for most of the year... but Kraft should have been used so much more.... and he can be used if we have Love under center and play action.... of course ...the #1 priority is getting a young, fast, bendy... pass rusher... someone that people have to plan for ..... Just my 2 cents....
Thank you Lovepack! I will start looking at draft and free agency... Go Pack!!
https://packerswire.usatoday.c...ator-adam-stenavich/
I don't get this. I watched every one of his Thursday pressers this season .... I don't see him commanding a team.
The Bears must be thinking, "If you can't beat them, join them."
FWIW, this is how I view the Love/Heath incompletion:
Love is being payed $20+M; Heath's salary is about 2% of that.
It's much more incumbent on the QB to deliver an accurate throw than it is for a depth receiver to make an acrobatic catch.
I noticed a play the Rams ran last night that looked amazingly similar to the Heath attempt; same route, they both made their break from right-to-left, etc., but their receiver was much closer to the numbers as opposed to the sideline.
That makes me wonder if Heath didn't run a route correctly, since McVay's and MLF's offenses are supposed to be similar.
See it at :22 here
Love's biggest problem in the first half of last season when his completion % was around 50, was hitting the layups. When things go south with him, so do the layups. The throw to Heath may not have been a layup but it was a 10' jumper.
@RobDemovsky: First bit of news from Packers coach Matt LaFleur’s season-ending press conference:
Long-time QB coach Tom Clements is retiring. He’s the only guy who’s worked with Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love.
LaFleur on Clements: "It's been a cool ride with him for the last three years. ... I know he's meant a lot to this organization, I can't say enough great things about him."
@RobDemovsky: Packers coach Matt LaFleur said has not sat down with Jaire Alexander yet.
"I've had some individual meetings, I told the guys that want to come by, my office is open. I will reach out to everybody over the next couple of weeks."
After hearing Alexander had to say, or rather not say yesterday and now the above it makes me think there was lots more going on than just a knee injury.
@Timmy! posted:FWIW, this is how I view the Love/Heath incompletion:
Love is being payed $20+M; Heath's salary is about 2% of that.
It's much more incumbent on the QB to deliver an accurate throw than it is for a depth receiver to make an acrobatic catch.
I noticed a play the Rams ran last night that looked amazingly similar to the Heath attempt; same route, they both made their break from right-to-left, etc., but their receiver was much closer to the numbers as opposed to the sideline.
That makes me wonder if Heath didn't run a route correctly, since McVay's and MLF's offenses are supposed to be similar.
See it at :22 here
It was a C- level throw and a D+ level catch. If that throw goes to a starting caliber WR, it's a catch and we don't even remember it. Yes, you can convincingly argue that a better throw needs to be made so even a practice squad receiver can catch it easily, but you have to have some margin for error. Maybe they can get Lazard back on the minimum for those types of situations (and he's a very good blocking WR).
Darnold was terrible last night, but the TD pass to Hockenson was a terrible throw and Hockenson adjusted like it was nothing.
@FLPACKER posted:https://packerswire.usatoday.c...ator-adam-stenavich/
I don't get this. I watched every one of his Thursday pressers this season .... I don't see him commanding a team.
He's probably not a serious candidate and they are probably just asking questions about the best way to develop a young QB. Might as well find out the details of what other teams do when you have a chance.
The best way to develop a young QB is to keep him away from Chicago.
Davante Adams on the Packers interest in free agent WR Tee Higgins 👀🔊
— Up & Adams (@UpAndAdamsShow) January 14, 2025
"Not a bad move... Tee is more than deserving. He can go to ANY team and be a no. 1... I'm excited to see what he does." @tae15adams @heykayadams @teehiggins5 @packers | #GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/dJ0ahuSRFw
Kay sure interviews Tae a lot, secret crush? She is hot as a pistol.
If the Packers want to lure Tae back, one sure fire way to do it is hire Keith Williams as WR coach. He is part of the outgoing Saints staff. He is the one who found Tae in HS and recruited him to Fresno State. Also found James Jones at San Jose State. Worked with both extensively in the off-season when they were in their first few years in the league.
Whether they want Tae or not, Williams would be a phenomenal hire given how many young WR we have.