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FWIW, this is how I view the Love/Heath incompletion:
Love is being payed $20+M; Heath's salary is about 2% of that.
It's much more incumbent on the QB to deliver an accurate throw than it is for a depth receiver to make an acrobatic catch.

I noticed a play the Rams ran last night that looked amazingly similar to the Heath attempt; same route, they both made their break from right-to-left, etc., but their receiver was much closer to the numbers as opposed to the sideline.
That makes me wonder if Heath didn't run a route correctly, since McVay's and MLF's offenses are supposed to be similar.

See it at :22 here

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@RobDemovsky:   First bit of news from Packers coach Matt LaFleur’s season-ending press conference:

Long-time QB coach Tom Clements is retiring. He’s the only guy who’s worked with Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love.

LaFleur on Clements: "It's been a cool ride with him for the last three years. ... I know he's meant a lot to this organization, I can't say enough great things about him."

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@Timmy! posted:

FWIW, this is how I view the Love/Heath incompletion:
Love is being payed $20+M; Heath's salary is about 2% of that.
It's much more incumbent on the QB to deliver an accurate throw than it is for a depth receiver to make an acrobatic catch.

I noticed a play the Rams ran last night that looked amazingly similar to the Heath attempt; same route, they both made their break from right-to-left, etc., but their receiver was much closer to the numbers as opposed to the sideline.
That makes me wonder if Heath didn't run a route correctly, since McVay's and MLF's offenses are supposed to be similar.

See it at :22 here

It was a C- level throw and a D+ level catch. If that throw goes to a starting caliber WR, it's a catch and we don't even remember it. Yes, you can convincingly argue that a better throw needs to be made so even a practice squad receiver can catch it easily, but you have to have some margin for error. Maybe they can get Lazard back on the minimum for those types of situations (and he's a very good blocking WR).

Darnold was terrible last night, but the TD pass to Hockenson was a terrible throw and Hockenson adjusted like it was nothing.

If the Packers want to lure Tae back, one sure fire way to do it is hire Keith Williams as WR coach. He is part of the outgoing Saints staff. He is the one who found Tae in HS and recruited him to Fresno State. Also found James Jones at San Jose State. Worked with both extensively in the off-season when they were in their first few years in the league.

Whether they want Tae or not, Williams would be a phenomenal hire given how many young WR we have.

@Timmy! posted:

If Davante wanted to play with Carr in LV, why wouldn't he want to play with him in NO?

He did...but the Saints didn't have interest in meeting the Raiders price.

Packers would have to meet the Jets price, but all things being equal, Dub (Williams) gives you the edge. Also, whether Tae comes or not isn't the biggest benefit of this...it's getting a quality WR coach to coach the dropped balls out of our corps.

After watching the LaFleur press conference, it seems pretty clear to me that both the OL and DL need revamping.  Hafley couldn't play the defense he was brought in for given the player talent he had.  LaFleur couldn't run the offense he wanted either. 

Myers was really a weak link on the OL.  Rhyan is adequate, hopefully he continues to get better.  Jenkins is really the only plus interior OL they have currently.  If you want the pass game (protection) and run game to improve, it has to start there.  The tackles are good enough.  Tom had a bad game against the Eagles, but overall a great season and is going to get paid.  Walker had a good end to the season.  He needs to play consistent all the way through.

@50k Club posted:

After watching the LaFleur press conference, it seems pretty clear to me that both the OL and DL need revamping.  Hafley couldn't play the defense he was brought in for given the player talent he had.  LaFleur couldn't run the offense he wanted either.

Myers was really a weak link on the OL.  Rhyan is adequate, hopefully he continues to get better.  Jenkins is really the only plus interior OL they have currently.  If you want the pass game (protection) and run game to improve, it has to start there.  The tackles are good enough.  Tom had a bad game against the Eagles, but overall a great season and is going to get paid.  Walker had a good end to the season.  He needs to play consistent all the way through.

Myers likely coming back if the Packers have anything to say about it. He's best FA center under 30. Not a great year for C in the draft...I'll address that in the draft thread.

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