The Packers have cut LB Ty Summers, a source said. They must be down to 53 by Tuesday but have begun the process today.
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) August 28, 2022
More moves are likely today and tomorrow. They’re practicing both days and don’t want someone they’re planning to cut getting hurt.
As expected.
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Summers was at least a 7th rounder, unlike the 3rd round dumpster fire that was Oren Burks.
Wonder if, because he was cut so early, he was one of the “non-effort” guys MLF was referring to.
Whatever demons….
Younger than Kenny Pickett?
Bye, Ty.
Don't let the door hit ya....
Burks is a very good special teams player, and San Fran targeted him early because they needed to improve theirs. Summers was too damned slow to even handle grunt ST duties.
@13X posted:Burks was horrible!! I can't believe another team actually picked him up even though its not to play linebacker.
Yeah…but consider how many teams didn’t think much of Rasul and now he’s a starter. Sometimes its getting in the right environment. And sometimes guys just aren’t good enough.
@Herschel posted:Burks is a very good special teams player, and San Fran targeted him early because they needed to improve theirs. Summers was too damned slow to even handle grunt ST duties.
BTW... Burks is injured again...
Oren Burks signed a 2 year, $5,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $1,365,000 signing bonus, $1,365,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,500,000.
@Timmy! posted:Bye, Ty.
Don't let the door hit ya....
It would probably knock him down.
With Ty Summers finally gone and Dexter Williams about to get his walking papers for the second time, that leaves exactly ZERO (0) players left on the roster out of the 14 who were drafted outside of rounds 1 & 2 during the 2018 and 2019 drafts.
Moreover, only MVS among these 14 draftees ever contributed anything of note.
Considering that STs contributors are generally are found in the later rounds of the draft and that at least 2 of the picks below were specifically dedicated to STs (Scott & Bradley), the lack of production out of the 2018-2019 post 2nd round picks has undoubtedly contributed to the Pack's poor STs play.
2018 DRAFT
Round Three (#88 overall): Oren Burks, ILB, Vanderbilt
Round Four (#133 overall): J’Mon Moore, WR, Missouri
Round Five (#138 overall): Cole Madison, G, Washington State
Round Five (#172 overall) JK Scott, P, Alabama
Round Five (#174 overall): Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR, South Florida
Round Six (#207 overall) Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame
Round Seven, (#232 overall): James Looney, DE, California
Round Seven (#239 overall): Hunter Bradley, Ls, Mississippi State
Round Seven (#248 overall): Kendall Donnerson, Edge, Southeast Missouri State
2019 DRAFT
Round Three (#75 overall): Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M
Round Five (#150 overall): Kingsley Keke, DT, Texas A&M
Round Six (#185 overall): Ka’Dar Hollman, CB, Toledo
(#194 overall): Dexter Williams, RB, Notre Dame
Round Seven (#226 overall) Ty Summers, LB, TCU
Gute hit home runs in round 1 of the 2018 and 2019 drafts in Alexander and Gary, respectively and in round 2 of the 2019 draft in Jenkins and Savage has proven to be a decent 2019 round 1 pick, but the post-round 2 picks during the 2018 and 2019 drafts (outside of MVS) did not, unfortunately, contribute much of anything.
Great post.
@SteveLuke posted:the post-round 2 picks during the 2018 and 2019 drafts (outside of MVS) did not, unfortunately, contribute much of anything.
I agree with you but lets be fair, Lancaster and Yosh were UDFA in '18 and '19 respectively. Both contributed.
Ka'dar Hollman was traded to Houston for a 7th round pick which the Packers used on Tariq Carpenter.
For the moment at least, Tariq is still on the squad.
Average NFL career is 3.3 years. A majority of every draft is going to be out of the league before they see a second contract.
@SteveLuke posted:Gute hit home runs in round 1 of the 2018 and 2019 drafts in Alexander and Gary, respectively and in round 2 of the 2019 draft in Jenkins and Savage has proven to be a decent 2019 round 1 pick, but the post-round 2 picks during the 2018 and 2019 drafts (outside of MVS) did not, unfortunately, contribute much of anything.
And this really underlines the greatness of a Ron Wolf...dude hit gold all over the draft.
@Goalline posted:You mean like TBuck, Dr. John Michels, Antuwan Edwards and Jamal Reynolds?
What about future Hall of Famers, Robert "Turd" Ferguson, Fred Vinson(thanks for Ahman Green)?
No, more like Edgar Bennett, Robert Brooks, Mark Chmura, Earl Dotson, Dorsey Levens, Bill Schroeder, Adam Timmerman, William Henderson, Antonio Freeman, Mike Flanagan, Tyrone Williams, Marco Rivera, Donald Driver, etc. All 3rd round or later guys.
Didn't say he was perfect, just said he was great at D&D before it was the in thing.
@vitaflo posted:I agree with you but lets be fair, Lancaster and Yosh were UDFA in '18 and '19 respectively. Both contributed.
Good points re UDFAs though I'd say Lancaster filled a roster spot rather than contributing that much to the team (he was also not good on STs FWIW).
And it is also fair to point out that, unlike Ted, Gute is much more willing to cast around for players on other teams to make up for any drafting misses.
Amos, Z. and P. Smith are obvious examples of this willingness, but getting Campbell and Douglas off the scrap heap to be big-time contributors were just awesome moves that need to be commended.
Still, by any measure, it was a disappointing return out the 14 players drafted after rounds 1-2 in 2018 and 2019.
@Chongo posted:No, more like Edgar Bennett, Robert Brooks, Mark Chmura, Earl Dotson, Dorsey Levens, Bill Schroeder, Adam Timmerman, William Henderson, Antonio Freeman, Mike Flanagan, Tyrone Williams, Marco Rivera, Donald Driver, etc. All 3rd round or later guys.
Didn't say he was perfect, just said he was great at D&D before it was the in thing.
And I am just going to acknowledge that Gute has been our best high draft pick drafter. Since 1991. He doesn't get enough credit for that from the X4 knuckleheads.
More and more rumblings coming out of Sconnie Sports Radio thinking the shocking cut will be Mason Crosby tomorrow. It would surprise me, can't say I would be completely shocked. It would also be a cap savings move for GB as well.
Only way they cut Mason is if he isn't going to physically be ready...salary cap savings wouldn't be that great...then you lose his leadership, one of 12's BFF...just don't think it's worth cutting him unless he physically can't go.
I'd written this guy off after the injury. Wonder if he beats out Abernathy.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/leavitt-makes-surprising-return-following-shoulder-injury
It's hard to get a read on what the Packers may do with Crosby.
My initial thought was that if he isn't ready, he may start the season on PUP, but if his salary cap hits ($4.7M salary or $2.84M dead cap) are factored in, that can certainly change plans. There would also be another $1M dead cap hit next year.
@packerboi posted:More and more rumblings coming out of Sconnie Sports Radio thinking the shocking cut will be Mason Crosby tomorrow. It would surprise me, can't say I would be completely shocked. It would also be a cap savings move for GB as well.
That would be a bit surprising but I’d be okay with that if Gute calls me up for an opinion.
@Chongo posted:Only way they cut Mason is if he isn't going to physically be ready...salary cap savings wouldn't be that great...then you lose his leadership, one of 12's BFF...just don't think it's worth cutting him unless he physically can't go.
Who knows - It may just be a cap maneuver...release him now with a handshake agreement to bring him back next week. That cleanses his current deal and while the cap savings are minimal, they're not zero. And GB is pretty tight against it
If they were gonna actually move on from Mason, I don't think he'd be hanging around practice and in the facility like he has been.
I would have think Gute at least inquires, and no I do not expect him to be signed but this is a ST's unit with a lot of ? marks going into this season, not to mention they are thin at S:
#Jaguars are releasing safety and special teams ace Rudy Ford, source said. Had a role last year on defense and the new coaching staff only viewed him in ST role. Multiple teams attempted a trade but his $2M salary was prohibitive and he’s now available on open market.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 29, 2022
Doubs cut!😂😂😂
@Satori posted:If they were gonna actually move on from Mason, I don't think he'd be hanging around practice and in the facility like he has been.
Crosby is a respected veteran in the locker room and the organization would have handled it completely different if they were going to make a change.
Cardinals release Josh Jackson.
Per Rap Sheet:
Some moves:
-- The #Lions are cutting speedy WR/return Kalil Pimpleton, who should get some interest.
-- The #Jaguars released several players, including LB Tyrell Adams and WR Laquon Treadwell.
-- The #Vikings actually placed DT TY McGill on IR.
@michiganjoe posted:Cardinals release Josh Jackson.
Wasn't he just with Seattle two weeks ago?
Oh, wait, that was the other Josh fail, Jones.
According to the CBS tracker, Green Bay hated Vernon Scott so much they cut him twice.
The Colts cut Jason Spriggs, to the surprise of no one.
Jags cut Evin Ksiezarczyk. Get on the phone, Gutey, we've got a natural Milwaukeean here.
Lions couldn’t find a way to squeeze him onto the 53, so Pimpleton’s NFL dreams have been popped.
Its all fun and games for us, but for the players involved - its a real gut punch
Andrew Brandt from the wayback machine (2013)
You think its easy to cut a guy ?
https://www.si.com/nfl/2013/08/08/nfl-preseason-cuts
If you think training camps are about having an open competition, guess again. Teams have proprietary depth charts going into camp, different from the ones shared with the media. There are usually between four and six spots that are open to competition, depending largely on numbers and personnel groupings rather than the performance of players on the bubble.
For instance, if we had a couple of young offensive linemen we wanted to keep on the roster for any number of reasons—it could even be the limited practice availability of older linemen—we would “go heavy” up front. This would mean the end of the road for a sixth linebacker, a fifth safety or a fourth running back. Every team makes these roster decisions that affect players at other positions regardless of their performance.
During my nine seasons as the Packers' vice president, coaches and personnel staff gathered to determine who stayed and who had to go, often with differing opinions about players. Doctors were consulted on injury-affected players, and I would present cash and salary cap implications of various roster scenarios. After deliberations and much lobbying—position coaches usually wanted more numbers for their unit—we would finally settle on a list that no player ever wants to be on: The Cut List.
The Cut List was stark in its simplicity. It would not have names, just jersey numbers, perhaps to facilitate cleaning out the lockers. The list was held and managed by pro personnel director Reggie McKenzie, who is now general manager of the Raiders. I would listen to Reggie go down the list and check off the players as he uttered his trademark line to them, “Sorry big fella, but we’re gonna have to let you go.”
