tough loss. probably in the top 5 of the last 25 years.

 

Brett Favre day, the whole emotional return of Starr.

 

chance to tie the alltime series with our biggest rival on the first 

Thanksgiving game in Lambeau history and we play absolutely

embarrassing football.

 

Rodgers just isnt being the leader on the field that we need 

 

This is the first time in his tenure that Im really thinking MM

should be squarely on the hot seat. the SB run 5 years ago is 

a distant memory and weve done nothing but under perform since.

 

Cobb , Adams and TEs are terrible. Maybe Cobb could be trade bait

in the offseason

 

Really curious how long the leash on McCarthy is.

Play off miss = change?

 

The Packers played last night without an excellent WR (Nelson), a rookie WR (Montgomery), a second-year WR (Abbredaris), a C (Linsley), and backup TE (Quarless). All but Jordy are due to return sometime this season. They undoubtedly have others who are injured as well. 

 

The Patriots are missing their starting LT (Solder > Bakhtiari), Guard (Wendell), starting RB (Lewis), an excellent WR (Edelman), a good WR (Amendola), WR (Dobson), WR (Gibson), and WR (Martin). They also have a number of other offensive players, specifically in the OLine, who are playing injured. 

McCarthy isn't going anywhere as long as Thompson is here, which is going to be until 2018.  Packers aren't going to make a change at Head Coach until they first make the change at GM--they already made the mistake of firing the coach and seeing the GM leave the next season (Wolf fires Rhodes, hires Sherman, and then leaves the next season)

Just blow the whole damn thing up. Sell Rodgers to the highest bidder.

Can't convert a 3rd and short. Whenever it's a good run on 2nd down but just short of the first, we should just surprise punt or throw a hail mary. Fer fukks sake.

 

Rodgers is just not himself. Receivers are terrible. Both huge surprises obviously.

 

Defense played great until they got tired.

 

 

The obvious answer is no matter what you think of Belichek he has instilled a warrior mentality...and it jacks up the whole team to know they are going to cram it down their opponents throat ...unrelenting....each week until somebody stops them. It's rape and pillage.

 

And MM has installed a complete pussification which reached int's zenith last January in Seattle and the players all know they are going to play safely stupid when ahead...and panic when behind...each week...unrelenting until somebody stops MM.

 

And Brady hooked up with a better Yoko...lets not forget that.

 

 

PFT Weighs in

Excellent post.

 

Funny to me that they don't run a wide receiver screen with Janis on occasion. Utilize his running abilities. Bring back the Lofton end around or reverse.

From the article:

 

quote:

Over the last three weeks, when Rodgers throws to Adams, he’s 15-for-35 for 129 yards with no touchdowns and one interception. That’s a completion percentage of 42.9 percent, an average of 3.7 yards per pass, and a passer rating of 41.2.

Over the last three weeks, when Rodgers throws to anyone other than Adams, he’s 58-for-103 for 618 yards with five touchdowns and no interceptions. That’s a completion percentage of 56.3 percent, an average of 6.0 yards per pass, and a passer rating of 90.2.

 

Even that 90.2 is below his career number.

 

oh shut the **** up you prick. answer the goddamn questions.

 

gotta keep that competitive edge? you just got beat by the ****ing Bears and Lions at home.

Maybe it's a perfect storm (Nelson injured, Adams not responding to accelerated role, Lacy's injury), but Clements is simply ignoring logic. Far too often they get in bad looks and it costs them critical down and distance. Yes the drops and the Lacy fumble were more critical and overshadowed it, but the playcalling was not strong in that game. The Packers were gouging the Bears, and they abandoned  seemingly every time got past the 50.

But a team needs a strong defense that generates turnovers to survive this and still get their shot. How many interceptions has the Packers' secondary dropped this season? If Randall catches that ball cleanly against Carolina it's six. An alarming count of others have been near misses that fell incomplete, including 2 Cutler specials that would have completely changed the game. These are game-changing plays that go in the stat sheet as an incompletion. Play make!

It's not over, but full desperation mode should be it from here out. Anything less and it's time to start questioning the decision makers.

        The thought of MM in leggings and a cut-off shirt scares the bejeezus out of me.

Think more of an effeminate Tears for Fears stylin Prevent Offense...and he just nails it.

CAN WE DITCH THE NO HUDDLE PLEASE! 

No one ever is to blame....

I want more no huddle with Rodgers calling the plays

Is Rodgers changing the play to throw to Adams and Cobb, or is that the coaches' decision?

I'm in if he calls for the snap before .oo1 is left on the play clock

By the way they were 0 and 8

Or C-ingTFB.

@PackersNotes: Packers receivers dropped 1 pass in first 3 games. Lead league in dropped passes since then.

Rodgers is not the goddamn problem people - get real

Who works harder than that guy? Who has a bigger chip on his shoulder? 

The problem is he doesn't call the plays and he can't demand the same work ethic from our WRs and TEs

There are about 28 general managers in the league that would love this guy being their QB

Kinda, he is.......1st and goal, 50 seconds left and he couldn't make a TD with 4 tries???   4 passes and couldn't get it in to WIN THE D*MN GAME.????..ah yah, it is Aaron's problem.  JMHO.   and he's still my #1 boyfriend.  

If only the problem were Yoko Goldie it would be easy to fix. 

I'd like to see the All 22 film on the 4 plays they had to win. On some of the replays the Bears had a LB successfully cover Cobb. The 3rd and 4th down plays were both cases where the WRs got both hands on the ball and just didn't make a play. 

The problem is who on the Packers WR core can you throw a jump ball to and expect them to win it? Maybe Jones, but Cobb, Adams, and RichRodgers are not those types of players. They've struggled in the red zone since Finley was forced to retire because they don't have a big TE (or a Dez Bryant type to throw it to). Jordy Nelson was the best they had and most of his plays were back shoulder throws. 

That's racist

You can fix bad hands; you can't fix stupid.

Love you Fedya.....and you know I'm right on those last four plays.  Why didn't they at least try to run once???  Aaron couldn't make four throws???  Come on.

Why do you think running on short yardage is a sure thing?  Look at how many 3d and 1s the Packers have failed to convert this year. 

Ive learned an undeniable truth when it comes to QBs. Their chances of success is greatly influenced by well designed route trees that create space. 

 

4 verticals and turning around make it easy on the defense. 

 

Id give my left nut for a jet sweep. A reverse to Janis. A wrinkle. A crossing pattern. Some imagination. Creativity. Anything. I actually got excited on the penalty on James Jones (bull**** call) because it was trying to design something to create separation. 

 

Clements may be a good QB guy. But he's a total and complete failure at running an offense. He is. The guy has zero creativity. 

 

 

The play caller does not install the scheme, that is the head coach's vision given to the OC to implement. The OC, Clements, & AR work on the specific game plan. If the plays  mentioned are not in the game plan, they can't be called. 

How does Adams go from MVP of the off season to this?

 

Edgar was WR coach last few seasons before this one, right? They seemed to function just fine under him.

 

Defense is certainly not the reason that this team has lost 2 of the last 3 games. Could they help the cause with a pick 6 or something like that? Obviously, that would be the difference in the game, but this defense with last years offense would have just annihilated the league by a country mile.

If either Jones OR Adams holds on to the ball at the end of the game, they win, period. There's a distinct lack of receivers stepping up with the game on the line. The best one is on IR and maybe the second-best one is kind of a pipsqueak and hurt a lot. The third one (demoted from #2 for multiple failures this year) still has flashes but not consistently, and the fourth may also be hurt.

 

The Giants knew what they were doing.

 

Is Adams wearing oven mitts instead of receiver gloves?

JPP would be a more effective receiver than Adams

I saw a couple of games there when I lived in Arizona.  It was a great place to watch a Packer game.

JSO player ratings:

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...974z1-356554151.html

Idiotic that Palmer is still playing and Ryan gets no snaps. that first TD is completely on Nate.

This.  

 

As I ranted about in the end of season Seahawks topic, you can't even get upset at this point.  Everyone justs needs to nod and say "that's nice" when they win and "what did you expect" when they lose - especially like this.   They will continue to waste Rodgers as long as MM is coach.   He is a poor man's Andy Reid (poor man - maybe hungry man's Andy Reid?).  He really isn't a good coach.

 

Until that changes, this franchise and their games are a fun little distraction on Sundays.  I can't get emotionally invested in them and I hate TT and Murphy for that.  Please fire MM.

MM has to have seen enough by now to know that Adams, Palmer, Guion and RichRod need to see their snaps reduced. The options in front of them aren't great, but the repeated poor performances beg for a change. That is completely coaching. They should have to earn their playing time too.

MM said in his presser that Janis and Adams do different things. That is a complete BS comment and does NOT show adaptability by the coaching staff.  None.

We got the 3rd and 1 when McCarthy inserted Walker as an extra blocker in a heavy set. We ought to be doing that every single time. Been saying it for months.

Perillo = better than RichRod

Janis = at least a speed threat

 

How come we don't see them more often? It was so obvious that the Bears were able to cover our WRs with ease. RichRod not a threat to run past anyone but the water cooler. Adams not trying very hard. 

 

Geez, just swap some players to see if it even helps. Just sticking to the same-old, same-old is the very definition of idiocy.