Positives:
Jacobs
Reed
Whelan!
Defense holds a rolling offense to 17 and a pick 6.
Iowa finally moved on to Sully at QB!
Two weeks to get Love and everyone else rested/healed up
Negatives:
Not moving on to Willis in the 2nd half. Once you saw Love struggle to even move at the end of the half that should have ended his day
Penalties - for fucks sake, lets clean that shit up!
Drops, I think they had more in this game than the Loins in 2024
No game next week!
@Iowacheese posted:
Would be fun to be a Detoilet fan the way that squad plays.
Go for it then. Bye Bye.
Self-inflicted stats to brighten up your Monday:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 4, 2024
Packers have the fourth-most drops (20), second-most pre-snap penalties (30) and second-worst FG% (75) in the NFL this season.
LaFleur said of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. "I take those very personally. "The way I told them, those are on me because I put you in a position to get that. So next time that happens, you can take your helmet and stand right next to me and we'll watch the game together."
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 4, 2024
The measure of a team is taken in the trenches.
The Packers came up woefully short.
@packerboi posted:LaFleur said of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. "I take those very personally. "The way I told them, those are on me because I put you in a position to get that. So next time that happens, you can take your helmet and stand right next to me and we'll watch the game together."
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 4, 2024
That will depend on the circumstances and player.
@packerboi posted:LaFleur said of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. "I take those very personally. "The way I told them, those are on me because I put you in a position to get that. So next time that happens, you can take your helmet and stand right next to me and we'll watch the game together."
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 4, 2024
AND NO CAPRI SUN AND ORANGE SLICES FOR YOU EITHER!!!
Jebus ****.q
@packerboi posted:Self-inflicted stats to brighten up your Monday:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 4, 2024
Packers have the fourth-most drops (20), second-most pre-snap penalties (30) and second-worst FG% (75) in the NFL this season.
So, there are a few things they excel at.
Many believe MLF is more marshmallow than stone.
@Boris posted:I disagree.... They are clearly at the Lions level (probably better & more talented) but they are undisciplined that is the difference and that is why they lost.
Clearly? Just got handled at home by the Lions. Dan Campbell is dumb but the Lions aren't running trick plays with 8 minutes to go in the 4th, from their own 21, if they felt the Packers were playing at the same level.
all part of the journey, cmoun
they shot theys foot again. clean it up, don't beat yourself, play fierce yet disciplined
we will see what can be drilled into their heads and how they respond. itzall up to them
Last year at this time we were 3 and 6. Time to pick it up a for the last 2 months. Hopefully we are playing the best ball at end if December.
@BrainDed posted:South- That was to Reed. Triple coverage toward left pilon
Another example of this was the Kraft TD. Went right through a DBs hands. Both of those should have been picked.
Earlier in the year he did his famous falling backwards heave to Doubs on the right sideline. Somehow defender got turned around and lost both Doubs and the ball. If that was a good CB, it was a 50/50 ball.
He has gotten lucky more than he has gotten unlucky. His stats could be atrocious right now.
That was it, thank you. I should have known better. Wicks would have dropped it (only half kidding).
And spot on about the other two passes you mentioned, BD. The pass went right through the defender’s hands, and Kraft pretty much laid out to catch the ball. He made a fantastic grab. That was all Kraft, and luck that it wasn’t an interception in the end zone.
On a side note, how great is it to have a tight end with that kind of athleticism? God willing, Love gets healthy and returns to form. That could be a very special duo.
I forgot all about the pass to Doubs, but that’s another example.
Have a few of Love’s passes been tipped? Yes, and those he may not be responsible for. But I think those few are more than evened out by the passes that should have been picked off, and weren’t.
I honestly don’t know we got here. I know his reputation at Utah State was brilliant athleticism and a strong arm, but a propensity for turning it over. I thought he’d turned the corner the second half of last season. His command of the offense was fantastic. He was making great throws, and smart decisions. I thought his mechanics were night and day compared just the first half of that season.
I can’t recall ever seeing a quarterback make that big a leap forward within one season. Usually, if a passer demonstrates show a big improvement, it comes at the start of the season. Love just started playing out of his mind.
My hope is that the knee (and ankle? And groin?) are even bigger issues than anyone is letting on, that this regression is explainable.
I live with chronic pain, and even being on Vicodin 24/7, there are times when it’s incredibly distracting, and I have a difficult time thinking clearly. And I’m not a pro quarterback having to make split decisions on the run while 250 lb guys are trying to kill me.
I’m spitballing here. I hope Jordan can get healthy, and find his rhythm again. It’s not at all hard to root for the guy. I want him, and the team, to succeed.
@PackerHawk posted:Positives:
Jacobs
Reed
Whelan!
Defense holds a rolling offense to 17 and a pick 6.
Iowa finally moved on to Sully at QB!
Two weeks to get Love and everyone else rested/healed upNegatives:
Not moving on to Willis in the 2nd half. Once you saw Love struggle to even move at the end of the half that should have ended his day
Penalties - for fucks sake, lets clean that shit up!
No game next week!
I couldn’t believe Love was still in there. We’d scored a total of 3 points with about 5 minutes left in the third, and were down 21. The likelihood that we could score three touchdowns, while keeping the highest scoring offense in the NFL from even a field goal, were slim to none.
I thought having Jordan out there still was incredibly risky, especially on a slippery field. I get that you never stop trying to get back into the game, but one slip means the MCL is injured again, or the ankle is more seriously injured, and then who knows how long he’s out.
@Timmy! posted:The measure of a team is taken in the trenches.
The Packers came up woefully short.
Just once more, before I shuffle off this mortal coil, I’d like to see a Packers team with offensive and defensive lines that routinely bully opposing teams.
That was the hallmark of Lombardi’s dynasty. We had great players everywhere. But it was Forrest Gregg, Jerry Kramer, Jimmy Ringo, Henry Jordan, Willie Davis among others that controlled the line of scrimmage.
Lombardi was fanatical about strength and conditioning. The Packers not only had the most disciplined team on the field every Sunday, they had the most in shape team.
Detroit has invested in their o-line (4 of the 5 were First Round draft choices) and it is paying off. You don't need to have a "franchise QB" with that kind of line. I've been wondering if rather than chasing your QB, would teams be better served going all-in on o-line with early draft rounds? The con to that is that if you get your stud QB you can keep him for 10-12 years. Hard too keep a premier o-line together, especially when it is a position that typically incurs a bigger risk for injury. If 2 of Detroit's lineman go out with injury, Goff won't be putting up the stats he is now.
Whelan was good. Jacobs was really good. Reed too.
To me, all that matters is Love gets healthy. This team has no legitimate shot if he’s banged up. Why he played I have no idea. Even worse is all the passing plays. Why? 8 has been nails.
The other takeaway is MLF is not a big game coach. It’s shocking how good he is and then once he has to play a meaningful game he loses his shit. He’s not quite the James Franklin of the NFL, but he’s getting close. His feisty presser crap after the Detroit game was lame. Prepare better. Coach better. It’s as simple as that.
----Another NFC North Loss at Lambeau. We have yet to win a division game. Dropped passes. The weather affected the Packers a lot more than it did the Lions. At one point Goff was 11-11 passing in those conditions. Watching the Lions chew up our D with their run game. Not putting Willis in when Love was hobbling, on the field. Shuffling of our OL. It seemed like Jenkins was not ready to play Center. When did the coaches tell him he was the starting Center in this game? During the coin toss? Love's INT and his pick 6. The pick 6 was the dagger. Again, where was Willis? Penalties galore. Where was our pass rush/pressure on Goff, Hafley?
+++Jacobs is a great RB. We are sitting at 6-3. Still time to turn things around. Jayden Reed is a keeper. Whelan.
@FLPACKER posted:Detroit has invested in their o-line (4 of the 5 were First Round draft choices) and it is paying off. You don't need to have a "franchise QB" with that kind of line. I've been wondering if rather than chasing your QB, would teams be better served going all-in on o-line with early draft rounds? The con to that is that if you get your stud QB you can keep him for 10-12 years. Hard too keep a premier o-line together, especially when it is a position that typically incurs a bigger risk for injury. If 2 of Detroit's lineman go out with injury, Goff won't be putting up the stats he is now.
Other teams have tried this but it takes a FO that can draft good OL. RD1 OL probably have a higher hit rate than most positions but there are also a lot of busts. Need a good GM and scouting dept.
@FLPACKER posted:Detroit has invested in their o-line (4 of the 5 were First Round draft choices) and it is paying off. You don't need to have a "franchise QB" with that kind of line. I've been wondering if rather than chasing your QB, would teams be better served going all-in on o-line with early draft rounds? The con to that is that if you get your stud QB you can keep him for 10-12 years. Hard too keep a premier o-line together, especially when it is a position that typically incurs a bigger risk for injury. If 2 of Detroit's lineman go out with injury, Goff won't be putting up the stats he is now.
it took them 20 years straight of drafting in the top five to finally hit on a few offensive linemen. Good for them. At least the Packers were playing meaningful games over those 20 years while they were playing where's waldo with NFL caliber players. Lets see how they do now drafting in the late 20s a few years straight. The jury is still out on their choices the past couple of years. I give them credit as they finally look like a complete team. I am not sure they will finally be successfully because their head coach is liable to get in the way with one of two bonehead decisions he makes every game.
I don't get the repeated "MLF can't coach big games". Have they not won big games with him in the past? Did they not win big games last year? He has also lost big games but so have other coaches. Is John Harbaugh bad in big games? Mike Tomlin? McVey? Shannahan? MLF isn't at their level yet, he's also younger than all of them. We've seen him absolutely pencil whip other top coaches. He's been uneven over the coarse of his HC career so far but it's not like he hasn't won big games.
@D J posted:How many years have we been hearing this now?
1.5.
They didn't suddenly get old. I think the average age went down a tick from 2023 to 2024.
It's a young team.
Positive: Packers won the box score:
Negative: Packers lost the scoreboard
@PackerHawk posted:1.5.
They didn't suddenly get old. I think the average age went down a tick from 2023 to 2024.
It's a young team.
Younger now with Preston off the books.
