From today's practice:
@WesHod: Sam Shields and Tramon Williams not practicing. Datone Jones (ankle), Jamari Lattimore (neck) and Jarrett Boykin (groin) returned
@RobDemovsky: JC Tretter, still on temporary IR, is practicing for the first time since his knee injury. Eligible to play on Nov. 9 http://t.co/9meFUxGXtp
@TomSilverstein: Both Tramon and Shields were present at practice. Tomorrow will be a better gauge of their status. That's a pads practice.
Of the 3, Lattimore's return is most encouraging. Keep BJ on those sidelines.
Grab some pine Boykin.
Good #4 WR.
The Packers still suck at TE, so they're going to need Boykin to contribute at some point this year. Can't just write him off because Adams looks better.
Janis catches balls thrown to him and neither of them are TEs.
Good #4 WR.
Exactly, and that was the strategy with Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones- everyone of those guys could beat the 4th best CB with impunity
Agree.
One of TT's best strategies is that AR + #3 and #4 WRs that can beat opponents #3 and #4 DBs will lead to success.
Of the 3, Lattimore's return is most encouraging. Keep BJ on those sidelines.
Seriously. I heard "neck" and thought for sure he was done for the year.
I don't understand why people are writing Boykin off. Last year, in 12 games he had 49 catches for 680 yards as the #3. Throw in the fact that for a lot of those games Flynn / Z was the QB and it's even more impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20X-GNof2BQ
I believe the last time the Panthers and the Pack played was the time Nick suffered his career-ending injury.
I know there was nothing malicious and intentional on the Panthers part for Collins to get injured, but I would love it if the Pack can win this for Nick.
Per McCarthy, Shields and Williams will get the week to try for Sunday. Tramon is closer. Lattimore was essentially a stinger.
The Wizard? All I can think of is: Anthony Dilweg
http://articles.latimes.com/19...634_1_touchdown-pass
I still chuckle over him wanting us to call him, "The Wizard".
Janis catches balls thrown to him and neither of them are TEs.
I'm aware that they aren't TEs. I just meant that since the TEs are bad, they're going to have to lean on a big set of WRs to compensate like they did in 2010 after Finley was injured. Neither Janis or Boykin are going be grabbing much pine this year, both will probably end up needing to contribute at some point.
The Wizard? All I can think of is: Anthony Dilweg
http://articles.latimes.com/19...634_1_touchdown-pass
I still chuckle over him wanting us to call him, "The Wizard".
Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke to the media following Wednesday's practice.
Here are some highlights:
Injury report: DNP â CB Sam Shields (knee), CB Tramon Williams (ankle). Limited â DE Datone Jones (ankle), WR Jarrett Boykin (groin), ILB Jamari Lattimore (neck). Full â ILB Sam Barrington (hamstring), DE Josh Boyd (knee).
On Sam Shields/Tramon Williams:
As far as I view their opportunity to play this week, we'll give them every opportunity to get ready. I think Tramon is closer than Sam.
On read-option defense:
Two years ago is a different football team. This is a new group. We're focused on it. Cam Newton runs it very well, run it for quite some time. Brings a dynamic to the read-option as far as his ability to run the football. We're preparing and how we handle it, there's other elements and factors involved. It's a primary concept in the NFL. Better today than a couple years ago.
On Davon House/Casey Hayward:
It's definitely a credit to our depth and those two guys. The way they stepped up in the Miami game. It also carriers over to special teams.
On Aaron Rodgers getting hot:
I think there's a lot of sports where the fine skill of the position they're playing. Whether it's a guy who's shooting a basketball well or golfer in a groove, I think there's a lot of carryover from one sport to the next. I think Aaron is playing very well. I've seen him play better. The standard he set and all the little things he's done at a high level, he has a lot of god football in front of him. It's not really his individual performance, but our focus this week is we're not as efficient as we want to be after six games. That's how we spent our time last couple days.
On Jamari Lattimore's neck injury:
I think stinger would be accurate.
On James Starks/Eddie Lacy rotation.
It's a catch-22. When you're a player like Eddie and James, they want the carries. They want to start pressing the defense in the third and fourth quarters. That part of it, they haven't been given that opportunity, but it's a long season. I feel good about rotation. It gives us the ability to keep rolling. You have a fresh back in there every day. They can play first, second and third down.
Janis catches balls thrown to him and neither of them are TEs.
I'm aware that they aren't TEs. I just meant that since the TEs are bad, they're going to have to lean on a big set of WRs to compensate like they did in 2010 after Finley was injured. Neither Janis or Boykin are going be grabbing much pine this year, both will probably end up needing to contribute at some point.
Boykin actually needs to catch the ball on a regular basis first. He has been bad so far. Supplementing WRs for TE lack of production is fine but Boykin has to catch the ball. Janis is a more likely choice and Dorsey may just as easily pass up Boykin.
Boykin made a name for himself last season, mostly when Rodgers was sidelined.
Boykin actually needs to catch the ball on a regular basis first. He has been bad so far. Supplementing WRs for TE lack of production is fine but Boykin has to catch the ball. Janis is a more likely choice and Dorsey may just as easily pass up Boykin.
I feel like he'll get it together before the season is over. Cobb was pretty awful (by his own admission) up until the game against the Bears, too. Boykin showed some impressive stuff last year, and I doubt it was just a fluke.
Boykin actually needs to catch the ball on a regular basis first. He has been bad so far. Supplementing WRs for TE lack of production is fine but Boykin has to catch the ball. Janis is a more likely choice and Dorsey may just as easily pass up Boykin.
I feel like he'll get it together before the season is over. Cobb was pretty awful (by his own admission) up until the game against the Bears, too. He showed some impressive stuff last year, and I doubt it was all just a fluke.
Totally just nerves.
losing a stud defender will do that to your defense.
As for their run game, pretty sure they have been without DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, as well as Mike Tolbert for much of the season. That's tough to overcome.
As well as what was a very good left-side of their offensive line decided to retire in the offseason.
On Aaron Rodgers getting hot:
... The standard he set and all the little things he's done at a high level, he has a lot of god football in front of him.
That is a new way to put it. Aaron's got a lotta god football in front of him. I like it.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Here's a look at where the Green Bay Packers (4-2) rank in some of the major statistical categories heading into Sunday's game against the Carolina Panthers (3-2-1) at Lambeau Field:
Points per game
This week: 8th (26.8)
Last season: Tied for eighth (26.1)
Panthers' ranking this week: T17th (23.5)
Points allowed per game
This week: 12th (21.7)
Last season: Tied for 24th (26.8)
Panthers' ranking this week: 24th (26.2)
Total offense (yards)
This week: 26th (319.2)
Last season: Third (440.3)
Panthers' ranking this week: 18th (343.8)
Rushing offense (yards)
This week: 24th (94.8)
Last season: Seventh (133.6)
Panthers' ranking this week: 28th (86.8)
Passing offense (yards)
This week: 20th (224.3)
Last season: Sixth (266.8)
Panthers' ranking this week: T12th (257.0)
Total defense (yards allowed)
This week: 19th (368.0)
Last season: 25th (372.3)
Panthers' ranking this week: 26th (392.5)
Rushing defense (yards allowed)
This week: 32nd (154.5)
Last season: 25th (125.0)
Panthers' ranking this week: 27th (140.2)
Passing defense (yards allowed)
This week: Fifth (213.5)
Last season: 24th (247.3)
Panthers' ranking this week: 20th (252.3)
Third-down offense
This week: Sixth (45.8 percent conversion rate)
Last season: Ninth (41.2 percent)
Panthers' ranking this week: 12th (43.4 percent)
Third-down defense
This week: 29th (47.6 percent)
Last season: T17th (38.2 percent)
Panthers' ranking this week: 31st (50 percent)
Red zone offense
This week: Sixth (69.6 percent)
Last season: 26th (50.8 percent)
Panthers' ranking this week: 25th (50.0 percent)
Red zone defense
This week: T16th (55.0 percent)
Last season: 24th (61.4 percent)
Panthers' ranking this week: 28th(70.6 percent)
Turnover differential
This week: Tied for first (plus-9)
Last season: 19th (Minus-3)
Panthers' ranking this week: Tied for fifth (plus-5)
Having A Aron is the difference.
Sorry if this has already been posted but Carolina WR, Kevin Benjamin, is dealing with a concussion and did not practice Wednesday. Going through the concussion protocol. They're calling it mild so he may or may not play Sunday.
How this offense is ranked 26th in yardage is beyond moi.
Good to see the RZ offense has improved so far. That was a big problem last year, even before AR went down.
How this offense is ranked 26th in yardage is beyond moi.
Perhaps I can offer some insight kind sir
What happens when your defense is # 1 in INTs ? Short fields.
And short fields = less yardage per score. Packers are number 8 in points and until they start awarding wins based on yards - who really gives a flying **** other than a media intent on fomenting outrage ?
GB is number 6 in "drive success rate", so while the drives are "shorter" they are doing quite well in converting them into points
How well ? According to Football Outsiders, GB is number 1 in in touchdowns/drive in the entire league.
So, the next time some asshat article comes out whining about the mutha****ing yardage, take these facts and shove 'em up their ample arses.
The offenses' job is to score points. 
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestatsoff
Don't really care about their ranking yardage either, dear sir. Just found it odd. Thanks for the illumination.
You don't have a "mild" concussion. You either have one or you don't.
You a Dr. BrainDed?
CIN Coach Marvin Lewis
"Again, I coached defense and linebackers for a long time and concussions didn't linger. Now we've found that because of the media and things they seem to linger longer. There's a lot of attention paid to it. I don't know why they linger longer, but I don't remember them lingering like they do now.â
The NFL in recent years has upped its approach to concussions and renewed its policies related to the level of medical scrutiny players must go through before getting cleared to play again after a concussion. Many of the league's concerns stem from long-term health issues retired players have had, and recent research that has made some connections between former player deaths and head trauma.
They don't linger longer, the medical staff's are just more knowledgeable about the effects.
So you disagree that there are varying degrees of injury? Do you actually have an opinion or are you just a parrot who can type?
That's like saying there is no such thing as a 3rd degree burn. A burn is a burn.
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CIN Coach Marvin Lewis
"Again, I coached defense and linebackers for a long time and concussions didn't linger. Now we've found that because of the media and things they seem to linger longer. There's a lot of attention paid to it. I don't know why they linger longer, but I don't remember them lingering like they do now.â"
Hey, Marvin!
Those headaches and fogginess that most players experienced regularly throughout their careers? The stuff everybody ignored because claiming injury from a headache was malingering? That wasn't football-itis. That was concussions. The fact that you consider it "normal" means you still don't grasp the nature or severity of the injury. The protocol is in place to protect against people like you.
I think the issue is that one sustains a head injury of varying degrees of severity and then one recovers from that injury. It doesn't mean the concussion itself moves from severe, to moderate, to mild over time. Determining the severity of the original concussion includes how long were they unconscious, level of alertness, length and degree of memory impairment, and physical symptoms like headaches, sensitivity to light, etc. But it's silly to say there is no such thing as a "mild concussion". Mild concussions are when a player sustains a head injury and the player and coach try to hide it from the medical staff so he can get back on the field.
I'm not a doctor, but I can google the **** out things with the best of them. From WebMD:
Concussions are graded as mild (grade 1), moderate (grade 2), or severe (grade 3), depending on such factors as loss of consciousness, amnesia, and loss of equilibrium.
In a grade 1 concussion, symptoms last for less than 15 minutes. There is no loss of consciousness.
With a grade 2 concussion, there is no loss of consciousness but symptoms last longer than 15 minutes.
In a grade 3 concussion, the person loses consciousness, sometimes just for a few seconds.
Thursday practice:
@WesHod: No Tramon Williams or Sam Shields at practice. Datone Jones didn't participate in the padded practice #Packers http://t.co/BpbUPBso8H
@RobDemovsky: JC Tretter worked in pads today. First time for him since August 22 knee injury. #Packers http://t.co/001chH06ec
Obviously Winston is no Dr., but he's right to slam Lewis for the lingering comment. The current guidelines for grading concussions was established in the 80's I believe and was updated about 10 years ago. 10 years from now the medical community will know more and the protocol for returning from a grade 1 concussion will likely look different.
