Thought this was interesting.
It pisses me off that there wasn't this much uproar over the "Fail Mary", but whatever.
I'm not sure they will understand the can o' worms they may be opening.
NFL Owners To Talk Replay Expansion At Annual League Meeting
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A couple reports I have read said they DONT believe PI will become reviewable, at least not this upcoming season.
I'd like to see PI just be a flat 15 yard personal foul , not a spot foul. But I also thanks to fantasy football and that this league is tilted so heavily on the offense, it probably won't happen.
Timmy! posted:Thought this was interesting.
It pisses me off that there wasn't this much uproar over the "Fail Mary",
You're wrong about that. NFL offices in NY received 50,000 voice-mails the night the Fail-Mary happened.
Can't imagine the NFL ever letting go of calls to control a game.
It isn't just PI (like the Saints v. Rams game) - it's correcting the seriously egregious calls - Like Rodgers getting his facemask yanked down in an OT playoff game vs. the Cardinals.
P-Boi nailed it too. PI spot foul is garbage - toss up the rock - pray for a miracle catch or a "PI call" gain 50+ yards in 1 play. Should be 15 & a first down. Rules are already geared too much toward offense.
Oh yeah, tackling a QB while he's holding the football shouldn't be a penalty.
The NFL can go **** themselves
I disagree with the 15-yard standardized PI. All a DB would have to do once he sees the ball headed in his direction is to knock down the receiver and take the 15-yard PI rather than give up, say, a 50-yarder. I think back to the Hail Mary Rodgers threw in Detroit. When Rodgers lets the ball go, the LOS was GB's 39-yard line. If some DB had wiped out RichRod, GB would have gotten the ball on the Detroit 46-yard line instead of the 1 as the rule stands today. That's a trade that as a coach I'd tell my DBs to take every time.
On the other hand, maybe it's time to make PI reviewable, but only in the last two minutes of the game, and only once per team. I'd like to say you can have it reviewed only if your team were on offense as well because I could see it becoming a weapon to break the momentum of the other team if you were on defense.
Schaefer said offensive defensive and non-calls will now be reviewable
My initial thought is that I don't like this. I'm assuming the coach gets to toss his flag to have the play reviewed? Are there automatic reviews in certain situations?
This is probably going to be a cluster**** when refs start reviewing subjective plays. Hell, do they even know what a catch is yet?
There’s PI on almost every Hail Mary - wonder if they’ll stick to the rules as they’re written for those plays?
If they stuck to the rules on Hail Marys, MD Jennings would have had an interception.
It's a sticky wicket. Gambling is now pretty much legal which requires that the NFL does everything in its power to make sure every play, every call is beyond reproach. Instant sloooooow motion replay is not going away.
What cracks me up the most about the Fail Mary in Seattle is that they DID review it and DIDN'T overturn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, would this be reviewed now and overturned?? Did Cobb put two hands on #25 to push off? What ref would have the balls to overturn this going against the home team??? I think this is going to make things worse.
That pushoff by Cobb was a lot less than Chris Carter--all he does is catch Touchdown passes after pushing the other guy away--usually did.
Oh I agree YA - but if they're going to review everything now and actually follow the rules, who knows???
These games are going to last forever...
The NFL was already becoming unwatchable, this is just icing on the cake.
Cheezers posted:So, would this be reviewed now and overturned?? Did Cobb put two hands on #25 to push off? What ref would have the balls to overturn this going against the home team??? I think this is going to make things worse.
The team site writers claim that Hail Mary tosses in the last two minutes (like all calls) will be automatically reviewed by the officials.
Where the "review" of the bullshit roughing call on Brady vs. K.C. in the AFC CG??
How about the Viking O-Line dragging down Daniels from behind with no flag?
Where does it end?
I never thought the NBA & NHL could beat the NFL, but it's definitely happened for me.
Agreed. When can we start reviewing holding calls?
The NFL is going in the wrong direction with this. I'd prefer they go the college route and have a 15 yard penalty for PI.
I think we can all agree:
The N.F.L. is fast becoming unwatchable.
I just feel bad for the good guys like Robert Kraft.
B R A V O
Blair Kiel wins the internet today....
Boris posted:Where the "review" of the bullshit roughing call on Brady vs. K.C. in the AFC CG??
How about the Viking O-Line dragging down Daniels from behind with no flag?
Where does it end?
I never thought the NBA & NHL could beat the NFL, but it's definitely happened for me.
How about illegal contact downfield on receivers? That happens on every route on every play if you called it by the letter of the law.
My hope is that this rule only gets enforced when it is egregious. Maybe like the leading with the helmet rule. Last year I thought that it would be unenforceable. But the refs did not call it as much as it could have been. Or maybe it like the roughing the passer rule, it gets enforced too strict (like on Clay) then the refs back off.
of course, THEN it causes it’s own controversy.
Now they can control the outcome as they see fit. Every defendable pass looks like PI in slow motion.
— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) March 27, 2019
Yup. NFL is determined to kill the goose....
Yup, time for the NFL to give the rule book to the current White House administration and all regulations will be stripped so the NFL can become a faster version of MMA on a larger field.
There have to be 5 or 6 things where a flag could be thrown on every snap.
Almost every OL I have heard interviewed, both former and current players, say by the letter of the rule, you could call holding on nearly every play.
Might as well just play with robots and eliminate humans.
Don't give Goodell any ideas Packerboi.
and Starship Troopers was a goddam gift of a movie
packerboi posted:Might as well just play with robots and eliminate humans.
That would certainly cut down on injuries....
I don't like this rule. While it may correct some wrongs I think it's going to have an overall negative effect on the game.
I do like the ban on blindside blocks though.
I guess the penalty following a TD could make things interesting. You can turn a PAT into a 48 yard attempt.
The ejection for a flagrant hit rule could be OK but I hope that's something they take a quick look at to confirm before they make the ejection official.
Dave in GA posted:packerboi posted:Might as well just play with robots and eliminate humans.
That would certainly cut down on injuries....
Not to the robots
I wouldn't have a problem with replay review of O/D PI, but review it in regular speed. No more slowmo... just like catch/no catch. With slowmo, everything looks like control/a catch.
I think all reviews should be done at regular speed. Replay officials get 2 minutes to make the call.
Blair Kiel posted:I think we can all agree:
The N.F.L. is fast becoming unwatchable.
I just feel bad for the good guys like Robert Kraft.
I think the reason it is becoming unwatchable are the incessant advertising breaks. Same goes for the NFL Network. You can't watch it for five minutes without a break, and that is supposed to be a network we already pay to watch.
Jeeze Louise, bitch bitch bitch.
They got screamed at for the New Orleans no-call, now they’re getting griped at for trying to do something about it?
They’re trying to get it right. What’s clear is the stripes on the field can’t do that by themselves. The game has become too fast.
Have a little patience guys. It’s still football, it’s still the #1 sport, and it’s still way better than baseball and basketball. If the changes don’t work out, all they have to do is switch them up. It’s not like they need to call a Congressional hearing or something.
I for one want the right call. If that means the game takes a little longer, to me that just means more football time.
I guess I just don’t see how getting it right, and more football, is somehow cause for complaint. And it’s by the same collective group of fans who screamed bloody murder after the missed call in the Saints game, no less. Make up your minds hey.
ammo posted:Don't give Goodell any ideas Packerboi.
If Godawful had thought of using robots, he would be living in his dream scenario of having NFL games on all year long. They are getting close, now, to having an NFL presence on TV every month. Three Prime TIme slots allotted to covering the NFL draft is only one example.
packerboi posted:These games are going to last forever...
Not only will the games last forever, they will screw fans of the teams that are playing in the late games on Sunday. The Noon start teams game will last for almost 4 hours before they break away to the 3:25PM start time for the second game. You could miss a full quarter of the second game before the Noon game ends. They do it now, that way, to teams with regional conflicts with an area team that has broadcast rights. If the Noon start game goes into OT, who knows when they will go to the 3:25PM start game? Talk about being difficult to watch!
YATittle posted:That pushoff by Cobb was a lot less than Chris Carter--all he does is catch Touchdown passes after pushing the other guy away--usually did.
I agree on Carter! How about the time Larry Fitzgerald tackled Charles Woodson in the end zone and then caught the TD pass to seal the victory for the Cards over the Packers? No flag there, either!
