player we should pursue?

While the Packers are tight up against the cap they do have a full roster signed. The Packers have yet to do any cap saving moves. They can create cap space quickly if they want too. Pro football l talk is reporting that the cap will on increase 40k this year and there is around 600 Free Agents on the market.
I think after the first flush of big spending is then done Ted will enter the market, I have no idea who he will target he has a just a little better ability to judge talent then me.

Can teams start signing Free Agents this Tuesday?

Answer may own question
http://packersnews.greenbaypre...-free-agent-signings

Just a thought but it may be a good idea to cross reference which Packer players become a free agent after 2012 and reference that against who they'd sign now. History tells us they like to use any cap space from this year to front load next year's free agent class. if there's a bunch of guys coming free I doubt they do much.

This year may be different. This years cap is flat. Next year from what I have been reading is when it will go up alot. That is why Finley signed a two year conteact, he wants to be a Free Agent in the fat cap years.

I'm guessing all that cap space is going straight to #12 and #52

Jim leonhard or chris carr, safeties.

And I know we're talking other teams FA's, but for Pete's sake, lets get one of our own signed, Scott Wells!

(ps--I have no idea who "Pete" is)

GB can clear about 6 mil in releasing Clifton and if Collins can't return (hoping this doesn't happen), I believe another 4 million would be cleared by releasing him. That's 10 mil in space right there. Then I assume more space would be created if GB releases Grant and/or DD.

Frmby: I am with you in the Laws derby, I thought he would have been more dominating when he left ND but I do think both he and Oyoye could help GB and not break the bank
Pack88

I don't believe Grant is under contract right now.

DD is probably going to restructure.

Grant is a FA, so no cap savings there.

DD will restructure or be released, and has already indicated he is willing to take a pay cut to stay.

Signing guys, offsets the loss of Flynn in regards to draft compensation. Don't see TT doing a whole lot.

Cap is increased by $225K

Total cap for 2012 is $120.6M

Draft & develop, Draft & develop, Draft & develop, .......

TT's mantra.

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GB can clear about 6 mil in releasing Clifton and if Collins can't return (hoping this doesn't happen), I believe another 4 million would be cleared by releasing him. That's 10 mil in space right there. Then I assume more space would be created if GB releases Grant and/or DD.

Does that include the cap rollover from last year?

According to Pro Football Talk teams are allowed to carry over any unused cap room from last year.

Here are the numbers:
http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...-carryover-for-2012/

I wonder if TT would show any interest in SS LaRon Landry. He was an excellent player before having achilles injury problems. My wishful thinking is that Landry would turn out like Woodson (no other teams interested, TT gets bargain rate, Landry has no further injury issues, Landry becomes DPOY).

Landry, dear God, no.

I've watched Landry here throughout his Redskins' career. Aside from a 9-game stretch in 2010 (before a season-ending injury), where admittedly he played some great ball, he's been a huge underachiever. Imagine a more pumped up Charlie Peprah with a bad attitude. Assignment poor, lousy in coverage, looks only for the big hit, yaps and postures constantly on the field, locker room cancer. I'm no fan of the Shanahan regime but Landry has completely blown off the coaching staff as well as management with respect to getting his Achilles rehabbed.

Kameron Wimbley still makes probably the most sense: Not a top-dollar guy, position of need, doesn't count against compensatory picks.

BenJarvus Green-Ellis

I'd love to see BenJarvus in GB. He's not a gamebreaker, but he gets tough yards and he is very dependable. Perfect compliment to Starks.

Excellent article by Silverstein.

Why the Packers don't sign free agents: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/142494805.html

Need a center. If not Wells, then maybe Chris Myers but price may be too high. Possibly Nick Hardwick or Samson Satele.

Dwight Lowery.

Luis Castillo a possibility if healthy.

Wouldn't mind Mike Tolbert who catches the ball well. Or, maybe Peyton Hillis who may not have a high price tag.

As of the last hour, the Pack has lost Neal for four games (if he was ever to be counted on) and it looks like Wells. I get the draft and develop but last year's draft yielded two players who made meaningful contributions (Cobb and Smith).

Does anybody really believe they can fill their holes only through the draft and street free agents?

I posted this in another thread, but the Rams cut Center Jason Brown because of his enormous salary. He wouldn't cost any value in terms of compensation lost with Wells and Flynn, speculated.

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Does anybody really believe they can fill their holes only through the draft and street free agents?

Yes.

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As of the last hour, the Pack has lost Neal for four games (if he was ever to be counted on) and it looks like Wells. I get the draft and develop but last year's draft yielded two players who made meaningful contributions (Cobb and Smith).

Does anybody really believe they can fill their holes only through the draft and street free agents?

In the long term, yes. But, I don't think they would consider starting a rookie center so they have to look to a vet and maybe that will be Wells. Too big of a jump to go from college to NFL and make the line calls for a rookie IMO.

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Originally posted by chickenboy:

Does anybody really believe they can fill their holes only through the draft and street free agents?

Yes.

Yes?

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Originally posted by Goalline:

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Originally posted by RatPack:

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Originally posted by chickenboy:

Does anybody really believe they can fill their holes only through the draft and street free agents?

Yes.

Yes?

No

We need a poll.

Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open With free-agent CBs flying off market, there's still an intriguing player out there: Adam "Pacman" Jones.

Pacman Jones?

If a GM's first question to his staff is whether or not Pacman has any pending lawsuits floating around and no one can answer becasue there's a good chance he does, it's probably best to pass on him.

I think we need a look-see at Pac'k'Man. We need defensive help and if we end up having to restructue Woody, he might walk. Worth a shot

Is Beansnappers stock publicly traded?

TT would have to be desperate to go after Pacman. Not Packer people.

And Johnny Jolly was? How about Walden?

That meaningless "Packer People" crap gets thrown around way too much. Every team ends up with turds and some times you take a chance on the talented ones like Wayne Simmons (more of a turd/thug than Paccman even).

That said, Jones isn't good enough to warrant the headache. Randy Moss has found his diminished skills have put him in the same boat. That deal with the 49ers gives them a boatload of cash-free outs and a per-game roster bonus.

With Pacman you know what you're dealing with going in. With Jolly, they didn't. Big difference.

Jolly had a disease. Pac Man is a disease.

Wayne Simmons was NOT a turd, and definitely NOT in pacman's league. He was a thug on the field - just like every defensive player should be. Don't know if he was a "model" citizen off the field but I don't recall him getting in any trouble.

I still relish what he did in the 1995 playoff game at Candlestick to 49ers TE Brent Jones. Every time Jones would try to go out on a route Wayne would jam and shove him to the ground. Hard to run a route laying on the ground. It was beautiful and I will always admire Wayne for that.

found this on Wayne's life:
http://www.classicwisconsin.co...es/afterpackers.html

I had forgot this happened toward the end of his GB days but I still wouldn't call him a turd or even remotely group him with a pacman:

Simmons’ off-season activities did nothing to endear him to Holmgren. On March 1, 1997, he was arrested in Beaufort County, South Carolina, for drunken driving. That May, he was convicted and lost his driver’s license for six months. His blood-alcohol level was 0.17, well over the legal limit of 0.10 in South Carolina.

That same month, after a ceremony at his old high school to retire his jersey number, Simmons was accused of sexually assaulting an 18-year-old girl at a Savannah, Georgia, nightclub. The girl had graduated from Hilton Head High School that night. Simmons never was charged in the case, but the negative publicity may have sealed his fate with the Packers.

I sort of remember a book by ex-NFL player Tim Green, it was called something like "Criminals of the NFL" or something like that. It's been over a decade or so since I read it, but I seem to remember he had a section of it devoted to Wayne Simmons. He definitely did strike me as a scary guy on the field and off the field as well.

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That meaningless "Packer People" crap gets thrown around way too much.

AMEN!